Wikileaks Airs Scientology Black Ops 509
An anonymous reader alerts us to new material up on Wikileaks: 208 scanned pages (in one PDF) relating to the Church of Scientology and its former "Office of Special Affairs" employee (and subsequent apostate) Frank Oliver. "The documents are dated between 1986 and 1992 inclusive, when, according to the file, Frank Oliver was declared a 'suppressive person' and excommunicated. Frank Oliver should be able to verify the material and has appeared in the media before on subjects relating to the church. Starting on page 107, the document shows that at the time of writing the Church of Scientology was still actively engaged in black propaganda (especially concerning psychiatry), 'fair game' and infiltration."
PDF Link Broke (Score:2, Informative)
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Anonymous marches March 15. (Score:5, Informative)
Are you going to be there? Find the closest church and be there! [enturbulation.org]
It is your civic duty. I hope to march alongside you.
Re:Should make a torrent (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Remember what happened last time (Score:5, Informative)
-Peter
Re:Can't my people get a break? (Score:1, Informative)
Black Sabbath. Black Sambuca. Black Lights.
Don't ignore the good!
Re:Should make a torrent (Score:1, Informative)
As the original submitter... (Score:5, Informative)
As the original submitter of the article, I'd like to mention that it is the now the second Wikileaks held set of documents for Scientology. Though I must apologize for the badly written rushed body of the firehose article, it's the linked content that is important :
Citizens Commission on Human Rights" (CCHR) exposed as an illegal Scientology front. [slashdot.org] exposes their LEAF (Letter to the Editor ATTACK Force) campaign, and illegal govt lobbying.
Many apologize to the Wikileaks admins for the /. effect, but this news HAD to be made public.
To the $clilos - Disclaimer - I did not personally leak these documents, nor did Slashdot, I'm merely posting legal links.
The peaceful protests of Anonymous against the CoS are also legal. Anonymous is ONLY protesting the CoS organization, no other religion and not religious beliefs themselves. There is a campaign of fabricating/doctoring Anonymous protest images and footage to try to frame Anonymous for anti-religious protests (they started by attempting to attack the Vatican): take a guess at who might want to be doing that!
Rather worrying, a similar anti Anonymous "ad hominem" attack force is trying to re-define the cake meme from the game Portal into one about underage pornography.
PS. Everything I post is posted via strings of proxies and most importantly Tor !
(wish it was faster, and didn't have so many problems with slashdot, lol)
Re:208 scanned pages (in one PDF) (Score:-1, Informative)
Re:Slashdot vs. Scientology? (Score:2, Informative)
Screw civic duty (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Slashdot vs. Scientology? (Score:5, Informative)
Because Scientology took legal action against Slashdot on what appeared to be a trivial matter. I do not think any other group has taken legal action against Slashdot in it's ten years of operation.
I wonder why... (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Slashdot vs. Scientology? (Score:5, Informative)
users first post , check (not always the case but very common)
'witch hunt' comment, check
'bigotry' comment, check
*CoS countermeasures 101 detected.*
'cyber terrorists' comment expected soon
'ad hominem' attacks, coming 'real soon now'.
Slashdot posts what people submit, it gets front paged if enough people care about the story and vote it up.
With Scientology stories it takes a hell of a lot more people voting it up than normal as OSA and the LEAF campaign try to force such things down.
So the story only makes it if people REALLY care, are interested, and strongly think the story has merit.
Don't you wonder MAYBE such stories might at least have SOME truth in them if THAT many people are so interested in them even OSA can't keep them down?
Now you've pondered that for a pico-second enjoy your invasive security 'sec check'.
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After reading this PDF... (Score:2, Informative)
I was around for the Toronto trials, but this shit...? Holy cripes.
I may not be the most stable person, when discussing evolution vs. whatever-the-hell-the-trolls-from-the-evangelical-campuses-are-calling-it-this-week, but this takes the cake, in a SPECTRE/Mission Impossible/I Can't Believe This Is Under The Radar type of way.
Does this mean I need to watch for people on street corners, watching me covertly from behind newspapers? So be it! Bring it on, Tom! I'll kick your ass, Johnny boy!
This is quite scary (Score:5, Informative)
This is scarier than any horror film ever could be. Thank god Wikileaks. Kudos to Frank Oliver.
Analysis threads & more leaked docs (Score:3, Informative)
http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6291 [enturbulation.org]
Also there are two threads on released e-mail dumps on CCHR ("Citizen's Commission on Human Rights" - a Scientology front group) being discussed here:
http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6059 [enturbulation.org]
and here:
http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6159 [enturbulation.org]
The website also reports that protests are being held at all CO$ center's world wide on March 15th 11am local time. Visit http://forums.enturbulation.org [enturbulation.org] for details.
Re:Get 'em while they're hot (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Slashdot vs. Scientology? (Score:3, Informative)
Microsoft sued Slashdot twice! (Score:-1, Informative)
That said, I don't recall that either suit really went anywhere. Streisand effect, and all that.
Re:Get 'em while they're hot (Score:5, Informative)
A cult, in other words, has elements of personality-worship in it. Religions are old enough to claim that the founder's personality could not have unduly influenced their membership.
In my opinion, a lot of it is a matter of a qualitative differences in what they do. There's a number of things. Some people in certain religions will try to bring you back if you leave. Cults, on the other hand, may blackmail, harass or threaten people who try to depart. Many religions ask for money; Scientology asks for money, and spends it on lawsuits against its critics. Many religions have people who approach you on the street and tell you that you need to convert or $badstuff (with varying degrees of pushiness). Scientology sets up a table with a "Free Stress Test" (presumably designed to be rather Scientific-looking) first to attract passerbys, then when you test positive for stress they try to sell you various courses, then ease into the dogma later.
Re:Why is this AC modded down? I don't understand (Score:-1, Informative)
Some ACs start at -1 now. This is a recent development, no more than 2 weeks old, implemented silently, and yes, it's very annoying.
Nobody knows whether it's IP-based or cookie-based (a logged-in user posting as an AC, but with the cookie for his/her userid still set). I've had mod points recently, and seen some ACs even staying at -1 after being modded up... browse any thread at -1 for a bit and eventually you'll see AC posts at (-1, Informative) [slashdot.org] (or maybe this one [slashdot.org], both -1 at the time of this post), and if you open thost posts in their own windows, you'll see they were only moderated once.
Browsing at -1 is now required in order to moderate properly. The people with modpoints used to collectively waste 1-5 points on the usual trolls every thread, but that was it. Now we're collectively wasting 10-20 mod points on (-1, PostedAnonyously) posts, just to hope that they can be pushed up to at least 0, where other mods (who are not yet aware of the change and who still moderate by browsing at 0) can see them. I'd like to hear the rationale for it, because frankly, the situation sucks. Especially in threads like these, in which one can expect a lot of folks to be posting anonymously.
Re:This shows Germany was 100% right to ban them (Score:2, Informative)
What's amazing is that they got this status AFTER their acts of infiltrating the IRS and other government agencies (Operation Snow White), although they didn't get the tax exempt non-profit bit until years after the sentencing of LRH's wife and several others for that little bit of espionage.
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It's a joke I remember making once myself 20 years ago when I was 8!
Re:PDF Link Broke (Score:3, Informative)
An experience with aggressive recruiting... (Score:3, Informative)
I had three of these guys show up at my apartment looking for my friend... God damn it was a freaky experience. Two stood on lookout at the front door while the third fast-talked his way past me upstairs. Apparently my friend had only made acquaintances so they were just "following up" on a possible new member, and they left quietly after he rebuffed them.
I felt bad for a while for not having turned them away immediately, but you don't always know what you're friends are up to... and it's hard to be ready for something like that. When you are a naive college kid confronted by three overbearing, slick guys inviting themselves hurriedly through your front door, it really throws you for a loop.
Scientology is basically ritualized emotional abuse. It separates its victims from everything they know -- in fact it aligns them against their parents, family and friends, and everything that might come to their rescue -- and it turns them into abusers themselves. Elron was a sick, abusive, evil freak.
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>They survived the aftermath of Operation "Snow White" with no long-term consequences.
Several people were tried, convicted, and served lengthy prison sentences, putting the church in
the public eye and simultaneously making it a laughingstock. One long-term consequence was that
the media exposure about the church reached the attention of one Ivan Stang, inspiring him to start
a competing scam religious cult company.
Re:Screw civic duty (Score:3, Informative)
And that's terrible.
Re:Get 'em while they're hot (Score:4, Informative)
If you build a Radio Shack lie-detector kit, you can also experiment with the results of their "e-meter", which is nothing but a very expensive and not very sophisticated resistance-meter based lie-detector.
Re:This shows Germany was 100% right to ban them (Score:3, Informative)
In Church of Scientology, God is You! (Score:5, Informative)
This is pretty similar to other religious claims, I think. It covers all the basic tickboxes: "you are more important than non-believers", "you get everlasting life" and "you get to be like God". I think it is specifically tuned for extremely arrogant people, though, because there is no notion of God as something better than you, that you can at best only aspire to be like. I think this is a deliberate choice by LRH, who liked hanging around with film stars and seems to have figured out what they wanted to hear:
LRH: You're the most important guy in the Universe!
Tom Cruise: I already knew that, L. Ron. Have some more of my money!
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Re:Get 'em while they're hot (Score:3, Informative)
You must be young though. It seems most people of my generation and younger go through a phase where they think they're so clever believing (any) God does not exist, and that anyone who believes in such a higher power is an idiot. I went through it. Then I look at my children and think there's no way they came about without some touch of divinity.
You misunderstand what 'belief' means... Not believing in a god != believing there is no god.
Ouch ... you are right. (Score:3, Informative)
The scientology cult isn't outlawed in Germany but just not tax exeampt and not recognised as a religion, just as you say. I found this link: http://home.snafu.de/tilman/krasel/germany/government.html [snafu.de]
An important and informative website on the matter (Score:5, Informative)
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Can't say I blame you. Until November of 2005, Amway was outlawed as a cult group in the People's Republic of China. [usatoday.com]
Re:Get 'em while they're hot (Score:3, Informative)
Oft repeated story-- but don't see it here yet.
Bob Heinlein and Elron Hubbard were discussing how to make money at the 195(3?) World SF con and decided religion was much more effective. They made a bar bet as to who could found a religion. Heinlein's book was "Stranger in a Strange Land"... Hubbard's book was "Dienetics".
The rest... is history.
Who threatens Heber Jentz? (Score:1, Informative)
Emphasis mine.
The only people who would EVER gain from Heber Jentz being harmed are those he holds evidence against in his memory, being those from the Church of Scientology.
Protect Heber Jentz!
The legal filing the Church of Scientology made : http://www.sptimes.com/2008/03/12/images/Scientologyinjunction.pdf [sptimes.com]
Article : http://www.sptimes.com/2008/03/12/Northpinellas/Scientology_fights_ba.shtml [sptimes.com]
One of the main centres for discussion of Anonymous : http://forums.enturbulation.org/ [enturbulation.org]
snapshot review of Scientology : http://www.youfoundthecard.com/ [youfoundthecard.com]