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Lessig For Congress? 137

luge writes "With the unfortunate passing of Congressman Tom Lantos, parts of Silicon Valley and San Francisco will be holding a special election in June to send a replacement to Congress. Given the area, it would be great to have someone who is both tech- and policy-aware fill the seat — and it looks like that just might happen. Lawrence Lessig has apparently bought 'change-congress.com.' A 'Draft Lessig' group is forming on Facebook, featuring some of Lessig's old co-workers at Harvard and Jimmy Wales, among others. No word from Lessig himself yet, but he's been increasingly vocal about politics of late. If it happens, it would be a huge step forward for the representation of technology in Washington."
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Lessig For Congress?

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  • Real chance? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:26AM (#22434652)
    I doubt he'd be electable in a state which contains a large percentage (if not the largest) of content providers.
  • by sm62704 ( 957197 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:28AM (#22434672) Journal
    If only for what he, himself says is the greatest failure of his career. Interestingly, it isn't covered in the Wikipedia article about Lessig. But you can blame his lack of skill on the rediculously long copyright terms the music labels enjoy, as the SCOTUS said that "limited" means whatever Congress says it means.

    I hope I'm not trashing the wrong lawyer...
  • by neokushan ( 932374 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:35AM (#22434736)
    He doesn't sound like the most ideal candidate, but then what politician ever is?
  • by qortra ( 591818 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:38AM (#22434762)
    I was tempted to say, "you must be new here". But that certainly isn't the case, given your ID - you've been a member at least a few years. Then, I was tempted to say, "you must not come here often". But 141 comments (mediocre though it may be) is a counter indicator to that as well. Thus, I have settled on one of two possibilities; either you have YRO posts at -5, or you don't RTFAs. Lessig comes up all the time here - or at least, he did until he switched "causes" away from copyrights. Anyway, not knowing who he is isn't necessarily bad; I'm just shocked.
  • by CSMatt ( 1175471 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:38AM (#22434776)
    That was over 10 years ago. What makes you think that he didn't learn form that?
  • Re:Real chance? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Bob9113 ( 14996 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:40AM (#22434794) Homepage
    I doubt he'd be electable in a state which contains a large percentage (if not the largest) of content providers.

    Perhaps not in the Senate, but this is the House, and he's a Bay Area resident. We have a few little companies here that are full of employees who feel pretty strongly about rational technology law; you know, Google, Apple, Yahoo, and about seventy-three thousand startups. House elections are local.
  • by CSMatt ( 1175471 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:41AM (#22434812)
    Quite unusual, considering that the FSF is at odds with Creative Commons, specifically their NonCommercial and NoDerivatives licenses.
  • by Comatose51 ( 687974 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:48AM (#22434890) Homepage
    Unreasonable copyright and denial of intellectual freedom for the sake of corporate profit is a form of corruption in my book.
  • by eln ( 21727 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:51AM (#22434904)
    I'd rather vote for a guy that stood up for what I believe in and failed rather than someone who stood up for something I'm against and succeeded.
  • Re:Real chance? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by eln ( 21727 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:58AM (#22434986)
    I didn't say he would be effective in Congress, just that he could get elected to Congress. One person championing Creative Commons in a room of 434 other people in the pocket of the industry lobbyists probably won't have much effect at all unless he can build up enough seniority to get on (and chair) the right committees.
  • by CSMatt ( 1175471 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @11:58AM (#22434988)
    Have you seen some of ESR's antics? Kudos to him for co-founding the OSI, but he's not the kind of person I'd like to see representing my district (assuming I lived in Silicon Valley of course).
  • by inKubus ( 199753 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @12:01PM (#22435026) Homepage Journal
    Well, behind all the used-car salesmen and small-town accident attorneys is a fairly capable and educated bureaucracy. The fact is that if the people doing the driving are incompetent enough to only do what's most popular, you are getting the will of the people. The problem is that the PEOPLE are stupid. So, in times when the political institution is particularly weak, the bureaucracy takes over (such as after 9/11), and they have all sorts of plans to control the media, and vicariously the politicians (since they only do what's most popular).

    Proof of this is readily available when you look at documentation of the CIA's activities in the early 60's. That is what happens when you give a bureaucracy carte blanc and no oversight. They invaded a country. Of course, 9/11 had some of the same effects as nuclear cold war--it instilled fear in the public, which means they are apt to press their politicians to give up power in favor of the bureaucracy. Thus we have wiretapping, prison camps, torture, etc, all existing outside of the normal decision-making process. The worst part is that the bureaucracy is run by the president. He's the chief executive and the president of all the departments and sub-departments of the bureaucracy. Congress can only make the laws that govern this body, and the judicial can only rule when a suit is brought. Thus, they have unlimited power until they get caught.

    Heady stuff, no wonder people want to be president so badly.

    I agree, however, that having some intelligence in the Congress would provide some leadership to the people who need it most. The problem is, all the stupid people wouldn't like him and he'd be voted out. People seem to prefer people who think at their own level, apparently.
  • by 91degrees ( 207121 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @12:04PM (#22435052) Journal
    (e.g. Ted Stevens' "internet = series of tubes")

    Why does everyone pick on him for this bit of his comment? It's the only bit that actually makes sense. A series of tubes is a perfectly good analogy for the internet. It is essentially a series of interconnected conduits, and if one of them gets clogged up it will slow down the whole system.
  • Lessig vs. Putnam (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Gallenod ( 84385 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @12:07PM (#22435086)
    Lessig, assuming he runs and is elected as a Democrat, would provide a massive counterweight to the Republican's Adam Putnam (R-FL) on technology issues, not to mention any other current Reps living off the largesse of the intellectual propery community (RIAA, MPAA, Business Software Alliance, etc.).

    I hope he runs. We need more legislators with practical life experiences who are not only experts in particular disciplines, but know enough about legal or scientific methods to form intelligent opinion based on facts on other subjects instead of voting the way the polls or campaign contributors tell them to.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15, 2008 @12:18PM (#22435248)
    I had a little correspondence with Mr. Lessig before and was impressed. He seems to be a person who actively is seeking the truth of matters in our society. I would vote for him without doubt.
  • by Bob9113 ( 14996 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @12:21PM (#22435302) Homepage
    Lessig comes up all the time here - or at least, he did until he switched "causes" away from copyrights.

    Not so. He was pretty clear about the fact that he feels copyright is a symptom, and the corruption disease must be tackled in order to advance rational copyright law which balances the needs of creators and consumers. He has not turned his back on copyright reform, but taken what he sees as the only viable path to the goal.
  • by robot_love ( 1089921 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @12:23PM (#22435334)
    That's some good thinking there, tiger. Let's not vote for the guy who tried to change US copyright law on a shoe-string budget against the wishes of the biggest and richest corporations in America. Is it at least possible that the things he learned going through that could help him to be succesful next time? Or do you win all your SCOTUS cases first time? What's that? You've never fought a case against corruption at the level of the supreme court? You've never even fought any court cases against corruption?

    I don't mean to sound like a fanboy, but Lessig has proven that he's willing to fight for the things I (and likely you, this being Slashdot and all) actually care about, and you slag him because he didn't win his supreme court case! Unbelievable.
  • Lessig for SCOTUS (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Reverend528 ( 585549 ) * on Friday February 15, 2008 @12:31PM (#22435454) Homepage
    Lets face it. He'd fit in a lot better in the Judicial Branch...
  • Re:Real chance? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by kenthorvath ( 225950 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @01:04PM (#22435958)

    I doubt he'd be electable in a state which contains a large percentage (if not the largest) of content providers.

    I disagree. He is strongly anti-piracy, and has the support of major content providers with his Creative Commons initiative. The copyright reforms he seeks to implement are geared mainly towards removing the legal barrier towards creating fair-use derivative works of content and facilitating amateur content creation. This may not be a savory notion for the big studios, but it is not a life-or-death burden on their business models, either.

  • by j0nb0y ( 107699 ) <jonboy300NO@SPAMyahoo.com> on Friday February 15, 2008 @01:17PM (#22436124) Homepage
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldred_v._Ashcroft [wikipedia.org]

    Umm, no. That was 2002. Not even close to ten years ago.

    But I agree, kind of a ridiculous criticism. Hindsight is 20/20, and all that.
  • by oojimaflib ( 1077261 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @01:52PM (#22436606)

    A large part of the problem with corruption is the red tape that the corrupt can hide behind. What we need is a sort of "root" user for one or two agencies that can essentially violate any law or policy inside the government, short of the constitution itself, to root out corruption.
    Yes. That's what's needed. The Spanish Inquisition. Capital idea.
  • No chance (Score:4, Insightful)

    by HaeMaker ( 221642 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @01:55PM (#22436648) Homepage
    Lessig has no chance in Lantos' district. He would not be the Democratic nominee, that would most likely be Jackie Speier, and she is a lock to win the seat. She will win by at least 60%.

    Lessig will have a better chance if he tries for Anna Eshoo's seat when she retires, but he would have a lot of work to do to win a Democratic nomination out of the blue. In this area, there is a very active and strong Democratic party infrastructure and the path to that seat is usually via the state assembly/senate or San Mateo County Board of Supervisors.

    If Lessig really wants in to congress, he should run for local office first.
  • by DeVilla ( 4563 ) on Friday February 15, 2008 @02:42PM (#22437316)
    Congratulations. You've invented a new power broker! How long do you think it would take for the position to get politicized? Think about it. You would could ask anyone anything and they have to answer. You could gain access to political plans. Leak info at inconvenient times. Get phone records for calls to non-spouses. Make it look like someone isn't being completely honest and you've effectively kicked them out of federal government and politics. Not that any of this is bad because no-one should have anything to hide. And of course we can count on the IG not to be corrupt. It's just everyone else in Washington who is corrupt. Boy, I bet McCarthy would have loved this job.

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