ID Tech May Mean an End to Anonymous Drinking 514
Anonymous Howard writes "If you visit a lot of bars and restaurants, you've likely crossed paths with driver's license scanners — machines that supposedly verify that your license is valid. In actuality, many of these scanners are designed to record your license information in addition to verifying them, and those that authenticate against a remote database are creating a record of when and where you buy alcohol. Not only that, but they're not even particularly effective — the bar code on your license uses an open, documented standard and can be rewritten to change your age or picture. Collecting our driver's license information is one thing, but collecting data about our personal drinking habits is not only a violation of, according to the ACLU representative quoted in the article, privacy and civil liberties, but this 'drinking record' could also create problems for people in civil and criminal lawsuits as proof of alcohol purchases in DUI cases or evidence of alcoholism in divorce lawsuits."
Easy workaround (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Easy workaround (Score:2, Informative)
Re:What could possibly fix this?!? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:And impact employment and insurance? (Score:4, Informative)
From Wikipedia:
Main Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_alcohol#Ancient_period [wikipedia.org]
And yes, the article cites its sources.
Re:Well, that's legal (Score:3, Informative)
Just read this article [orlandosentinel.com] from the paper a few weeks ago:
But not Florida. "When I found out it was legal to discriminate against smokers [in 2002], those were my marching orders," said Westgate's chief executive, David Siegel, who gave his tobacco-using employees a year's notice before the total ban went into effect.
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Siegel, who says his brief flirtation with cigarettes ended in 1959, is so strongly opposed to the habit that he would like to see smoking banned completely. Short of that, he hopes his company's smoking ban -- effective in Florida and every other Westgate location where it's allowed by state law -- becomes a model for other employers.
Re:And impact employment and insurance? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:God dammit (Score:3, Informative)
In the name of DUI (Score:2, Informative)
Pfft... Yeah, OK, you just keep on believing that. Just so you know, under the best of conditions the registered BAC is only accurate to 20% of it's real value. If a breathalyser suggests you are over the legal limit of
This is just another attempt to infringe upon your liberties and other hysterical and unconstitutional laws passed in the name of DUI. As far as the constitution, president Bush thinks "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
Re:Target for Some Civil Disobedience (Score:5, Informative)
Sorry, but, no, I'm not.
You are welcome to your opinion of what justifies breaking a law; that's completely irrelevant to the point on which you claimed I was mistaken.
Civil disobedience is refusing to comply with a command of government (including, but not limited to, a law) as a way of protesting the injustice of either the command/law, or the claim to authority of the government issuing the command/law. Whether civil disobedience is justified, either in general or in any specific case, is a matter of opinion, and irrelevant to the discussion of what civil disobedience is.
No, its not. Neither Gandhi nor the Civil Rights Movement took the stance that the injustice of law cannot justify breaking them; both, to the contrary, to the position that the illegitimacy of law (either because of the illegitimacy of the authority issuing it, in the case of Gandhi's anti-colonial movement, or because of the injustice of its content, in the case of Civil Rights Movement) could justify breaking it in certain, non-violent ways.
Unlikely. At least, none of the ones I interacted in the course of getting a Bachelor's degree in the field ever had your rather unique views on those movements. Perhaps you should consider, though, some more direct source material, like Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "Letter from Birmingham Jail":
The act proposed upthread may fail to be proper "civil disobedience" because it isn't open defiance of the law with acceptance of the consequences, but it certainly doesn't fail because it is breaking the law. If it wasn't breaking the law, civil disobedience would instead be called "civil obedience".
Re:Legality of obscuring the barcode? (Score:2, Informative)
It's not easy. The readers don't read black/white, they read relective/not-so-reflective.
I've wholly obscured bar codes with a sharpie before and a reader can read them. So if you can come up with a clear coating that reflects red/near-infrared light (which most BCRs use), you'll be rich! It will be even better if you can clear-print a totally different bar code on it which will be almost invisible.
"Right-o, Mr. G.W. Bush of 1600 PA Avenue, come on in!"
Re:And impact employment and insurance? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Legality of obscuring the barcode? (Score:4, Informative)
If you want to see what's on your barcode, check this site out:
http://www.turbulence.org/Works/swipe/barcode.html [turbulence.org]
Keep in mind that the 2D barcodes have a fair bit of redundancy. You can check the results of your handywork using a scanner and the aforementioned website.
Re:God dammit (Score:2, Informative)
If you live near a BevMo, go there looking for beer. Screw your head on tight and GO!