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Jack Thompson Claiming Games Industry in Collusion with DoD 289

mytrip brings us a Wired blog about Jack Thompson's recent press release, which claims an "unholy alliance" exists between the gaming industry and the U.S. Department of Defense. Game Politics also has a discussion of Thompson's main points. From Wired: "Jim Blank, the head of the modeling and simulation division of the U.S. Joint Forces Command, says that commercial games don't meet the demand of the military, adding, 'first-person shooter games really don't apply in this environment.' Blank's point is that game-like simulations are a valuable tool for training soldiers in situations that would be too expensive to simulate in reality."
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Jack Thompson Claiming Games Industry in Collusion with DoD

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  • by Tiger4 ( 840741 ) on Saturday December 29, 2007 @12:52PM (#21849286)
    DOD makes extensive use of modeling and simulation. That is clearly no secret. The difference between commercial gaming and useful training simulations is the entertainment aspect, as the article states. Real Life, as we all know, is not Entertaining when it comes to Real Work. Actually carrying a weighted field pack, up and down hills, through brush, up stairs, wading streams, drop to the ground, run and roll for cover, etc. all take effort, and sweat, and physical coordination. See Kinesthetic learning [wikipedia.org] It might be exciting (especially when the other guy is shooting at you), fulfilling, and "fun" in an intellectual way, but not entertaining.

    Most importantly, Video games don't do that with any accuracy at all. They can show you what it looks like, they can help you learn the approximate timing, they can maybe remind you to keep looking around for more bad guys and not just focus on the one in front of you. But that is all. At best it shortens the training time needed in the real world training course, much like a football coach has a "chalk talk" in a classroom before you suit up and take the field. Worse, too much application of simulation can induce negative training, in short, teaching them to do the wrong thing in order to win the game.

    As for the Industry taking cues from the DOD, I wish they would. For starters the Physics models used in gaming are a joke and have been for years. If police and soldiers and criminals in real life could run like they do in games, shootouts would look like the Superhero Olympics. Every car chase would be the Indy 500 Cross Country Demolition Derby. If the aliens ever show up, they'd have good reason to want humans stomped out, we'd be too dammed dangerous! No, Game designers might get ideas from military scenarios (Call to Duty 1 - N anyone?), but they aren't using real situations. And if anyone could even vaguely show the FPS games were imprinting "Go Army" on any brains, major heads would roll. The fact the school shooters were using the games just shows how "out of it" they were. They didn't know the games weren't useful or accurate for training, so they used them, which somehow means the games were responsible after all.

    Thompson is just taking out some ire on innocent bystanders for doing something he already hates. Yet another example of a political control freak.

  • Re:and? (Score:2, Informative)

    by BotnetZombie ( 1174935 ) on Saturday December 29, 2007 @01:07PM (#21849402)
    Is this what you couldn't remember?
    Cognitive Dissonance [wikipedia.org]
  • Re:and? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 29, 2007 @01:15PM (#21849450)
    Perhaps something more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias [wikipedia.org]
  • Re:and? (Score:1, Informative)

    by api_syurga ( 443557 ) on Saturday December 29, 2007 @01:23PM (#21849494)

    If he was Muslim, he probably would have blown himself up by now.
    Suicide is forbidden in Islam. http://www.answering-islam.org/Index/S/suicide.html [answering-islam.org]
  • Re:and? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 29, 2007 @01:37PM (#21849618)

    It's a funny thing. Many people, once they make a decision, will come up with ANY excuse as to why that decision is still correct - often to ridiculous ends. I forget the exact name, but it's one of the cognitive fallacies.

    How about Confirmation Bias? [wikipedia.org]
  • by Scrameustache ( 459504 ) on Saturday December 29, 2007 @04:55PM (#21851126) Homepage Journal

    Interpretations aside, "Thou shalt not kill" is unambiguous.
    Deuteronomy 20:10-15 [biblegateway.com]

      10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

"And remember: Evil will always prevail, because Good is dumb." -- Spaceballs

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