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RIAA Protests Oregon AG Discovery Request 172

Posted by Zonk
from the tough-pill-to-swallow dept.
NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "The RIAA is apparently having an allergic reaction to the request by the State Attorney General of Oregon for information about the RIAA's investigative tactics. The request came in Arista v. Does 1-17, the Portland, Oregon, case targeting students at the University of Oregon. Not only are the record companies opposing the request (pdf), they're asking the Judge not to even read it. (pdf)"
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RIAA Protests Oregon AG Discovery Request

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  • Damn Lawyers. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by WK2 (1072560) on Friday December 14, 2007 @11:48PM (#21705576) Homepage

    Not only are the record companies opposing the request, they're asking the Judge not to even read it.

    Isn't this standard lawyer behavior? Objecting to everything the other side does?

  • Re:Right... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Opportunist (166417) on Saturday December 15, 2007 @12:13AM (#21705726)
    When some vegetable can become president of a nation, why shouldn't a bearded guy in his 50s become Miss America?
  • by redelm (54142) on Saturday December 15, 2007 @12:27AM (#21705784) Homepage
    This brings up the rather good point that civil discovery is a startlingly invasive process conducted by people who are hostile. While some discovery leads to evidence which is admitted and becomes public, the vast bulk does not.


    Some sorts of safeguards are required for this material. Traditionally, this has been up to attornies having professional ethics. A dubious proposition in some cases. Perhaps some sort of "fruit of the poisoned vine" is required for civil evidence.

  • What?! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by toppavak (943659) on Saturday December 15, 2007 @12:41AM (#21705856)
    Where's the mafiaa tag???
  • Re:Right... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by veganboyjosh (896761) on Saturday December 15, 2007 @12:41AM (#21705858)
    no one said s/he was a guy...
  • Fuck the RIAA! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by TheMiddleRoad (1153113) on Saturday December 15, 2007 @01:37AM (#21706072)
    I think this deserves an insightful mod. :)
  • Re:Damn Lawyers. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rts008 (812749) <rts008NO@SPAMhotmail.com> on Saturday December 15, 2007 @01:40AM (#21706076) Journal
    Ray, instead of being modded down for that reply, we should mod you up both for your work in this area and for submitting the article.

    BTW, I may have mentioned this before, but thanks for your efforts here, and for causing me to rethink my view on lawyers. (the subject line of this thread says it all-'re:Damn Lawyers') You are a gem.
    It's easy to lose sight of some of the good trees in the dark, creepy forest of our legal system nowadays.

    As a side note, I have decided to contribute my tax return $$'s to EFF and several similar ongoing efforts we all benefit from.
    I call on all /.'ers to make a small, similar effort. If we have the numbers and power to reduce servers to a molten ruin (the /. effect!), then there are enough of us to throw $5-10 bucks at the grunts on the front line- come on y'all, let's show the world the mighty power that is /.!!!
    Yeah, a little over the top, but this IS a pep talk!
  • Re:Damn Lawyers. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Ronin441 (89631) on Saturday December 15, 2007 @02:50AM (#21706336) Homepage
    Dude, you're not exactly hurting for karma.
  • Re:Right... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by zenkonami (971656) on Saturday December 15, 2007 @04:05AM (#21706614) Homepage Journal

    Yeah, it's a great idea, but it's as likely as me becoming Miss America.
    ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR GOURD?

    Dood, share what you're smoking over there...For one thing, I'm in my 50's, and for another, I think they'd freak at the beard...
    Ahh...you are. Nevermind...but this

    "As punishment, all titles the the RIAA represent are now in the public domain. Next case."
    ...from the previous poster is absurd. It's not a good idea. The fact is a lot of artists would lose a lot of money, and we're not talking income here necessarily. Many of them may not be able to "pay off" their advances.

    Kill the RIAA? Sure. Kill the major labels and their evil machine? Absolutely. But somebody please think of the childr...er...artists!
  • Re:Damn Lawyers. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Alsee (515537) on Saturday December 15, 2007 @05:17AM (#21706816) Homepage
    99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.

    -
  • Re:Right... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheGratefulNet (143330) on Saturday December 15, 2007 @10:16AM (#21708072)
    we don't need 'artists'. its an expensive idea that we have a new solution for.

    outsource.

    some guy (or girl) in india is willing to play that song or sing it for 1/3 to 1/100 of the US cost.

    as a software guy who watches his field erode to outsourcing, I say (sincerely) - outsource the 'arts' too!

    no one has a 'right' to make enormous amounts of money. and today, no one has a 'right' to even earn a living. I'm sure many slashdotters would agree if they've ever had to train their replacement..

    I'm half serious. the entertainment industry thinks they have a 'right' to continue the same old ways. I don't get that right as an engineer. why should 'artists', then?

    I don't feel any more sorry for artists or ceo's whose business model is not valid anymore - since there is no one in society to worry about US!

    the arts won't die. only the money-grubbing parasites will die or be forced to find another 'business'. and good riddance, too.

    the built-in protection is not fair across the board for all working people. I see no reason to give 'artists' a free pass when the rest of us are suffering in a failing economy.

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