Mark Cuban Calls on ISPs to Block P2P 463
boaz112358 writes "Mark Cuban, Dallas Mavericks owner, HDNet CEO, and noted gadfly is publishing on his blog that Comcast and other ISPs should block all P2P traffic, because as he says, "As a consumer, I want my internet experience to be as fast as possible. The last thing I want slowing my internet service down are P2P freeloaders." He complains that commercial content distributors instead of paying for their own bandwidth, are leeching off consumers who are paying for the bandwidth. As an alternative distribution method (at least for audio and video), he suggests Google video."
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Freeloaders? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:One way to solve this (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Paying Customer? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Freeloaders? (Score:5, Interesting)
Do you know how long it takes to download film in Sweden? 15-30min. Why? Because somebody invested in fiber to homes and fast switches. That's the reason they have ethernet straight to home. Yes, ethernet socket at home, 10/10Mb, upgradeable to 100/100.
And of course everybody knows that if your infrastructure is designed properly most of the traffic will stay local - p2p client usually prefer local fast nodes.
So you pay for your 'net connection - it gives you possibility to download whatever you want, everybody can. You can download newest Fedora, but your neighbour probably sits 12 hours a day watching youtube. Same IMHO.
meanwhile (Score:2, Interesting)
Americans just don't care. They don't see what we "could" have and suffice what we do have. Cable, DSL, FIOS are all better than dialup 56k so we must not complain. worthless I I tell you.
For once I would love somebody from a corporation do something for the public and not for their own self interest. when will companies figure out that helping your customers out only attracts more people to their company and because of that you gain more business. They always seem to want to screw over the consumer as much as possible.
I don't know but a lot of issues can be solved but no one wants to put the effort into solving it.
Re:hold on a sec... (Score:5, Interesting)
And really, if you are only using the internet for shell access and to get your email account and refresh drudgereport, then what the hell are you bitching and moaning about needing high speed for in the first place?!
And really, if an internet provider wants to give HTTP, POP, IMAP and shell traffic top priority, that's fine with me. That way those packets will not be affected should a heavy load of other use throttle the connection -- and at the same time, a bunch of people just using HTTP and shell accounts isn't going to slow down your P2P or streaming activities by any noticeable amount.
I don't see why all of this is a big deal. And I don't see why my solution isn't good enough. It allows the content of the supposed majority of users to always get through unimpeded while allowing all other content to cross the wires as the remaining bandwidth (which is supposedly the other 90% of traffic) allows.
Cuban is a hot-headed little prick.
Also FYI (Score:3, Interesting)
He isn't gunning for P2P because he actually thinks it's a bad thing, but because it has the potential to bring high definition programming to anyone with a net connection... which would directly compete with his HD cable network offerings.
It's be vastly cheaper to offern HD content over a 'secure' P2P application instead of building up the infrastructure or business relations in order to offer it through traditional channels.
*"The first all-high definition national television network"
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Re:hold on a sec... (Score:2, Interesting)
He clearly doesnt't specialise in clear thinking though. He seems to think that blocking p2p would improve his own internet experience (at the expense of many other perople's of course, but that doesn't bother him). He seems to think that his own improved experience will come about because blocking p2p will reduce the amount of traffic flowing through the internet. The fact that all that p2p traffic is people downloading, and that if they can't download it p2p style that they will _all_ have to download it from a big server somewhere, and that the amount of traffic flowing over the internet would be THE SAME doesn't seem to have dawned on him.
Of course, if you had to get your downloads from a great big server, someone would have to run that great big server, and that costs money. This provides excellent entry barriers to content distribution and represents an excellent way for the encumbent providers like the RIAA and multinationals to extend their stranglehold over the internet the same way they have over all other content distribution mechanisms. The limited number of distribution servers would all make fairly easy pickings for future moves to extend their control, like legislating well, any kind of restriction they want really. I see it as rather like bus companies trying to ban private cars from the road system, trying to re-establish the kind of monopoly over transport (and the economy as a whole) that the railways once enjoyed. I think this is his real agenda - gaining control of the internet for the big corporations.
Actully, there is one problem I can think of with current p2p aplications - I don't think they make any attempt to favour local peers over wildly remote peers. It really would help the internet as a whole if p2p applications could show a preference for nearby peers. Perhaps measuring hop-count could be built into future p2p protocols?
Re:Freeloaders? (Score:2, Interesting)
Put his thing down, flip it and reverse it (Score:2, Interesting)
P2P users call on ISP2 to block Mark Cuban.
Seriously, this guy reminds me of an opposition party. Whatever the majority says, he contradicts for the sole reason of getting attention. The dumber his statements, the more we flame over it.
Wasn't this asshat pushing P2P not so long ago with yet another stupid browser plugin called "Red Swoosh" ?
Re:One way to solve this (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Freeloaders? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:One way to solve this (Score:3, Interesting)
In light of his position... (Score:4, Interesting)
In light of that perhaps we should conclude that all free thinking people should boycott his wonderful Dallas Mavericks and any of his other businesses.
It is a wonder he can't afford his own T3 or at least T1.
The big boys don't like it too much when the little boys get to play the game at all. They don't want the advantage their wealth brings them, they want the game all to themselves. No thanks.
all the best,
drew
Re:Okay, how does $500 a month sound? (Score:3, Interesting)
The point is not that I want 500mbit for 5 bucks a month and if you can't do that go to hell because we want it. What I want is honesty. I want ISPs to sell what they can sell.
Our ISPs currently outbid each other with promises of bandwidth. 2m, 4m, 8m... but what you really get is less and less every time. I had 2mbit, and I could use 2mbit. Then I was promised 4mbit, and I got 1.5mbit actually. Now we're at 8mbit and on a good day, I get 1mbit. I fear when they promise 16mbit, I can't get a connection at all anymore.
I'm fine with having 256kbit when I can have those 256kbit. I want to get what I buy. Else the promised bandwidth doesn't mean jack.