DHS Ends Data-Mining Program 75
ExE122 writes "The Department of Homeland Security has "scrapped an ambitious anti-terrorism data-mining tool." The tool, called ADVISE, was being tested with live data rather than test data without having proper security in place. This program had already been under criticism by privacy advocates and members of Congress. However, according to the article, a DHS spokesman assures that the program will be restarted once the security and cost are re-evaluated."
Security and cost- yeah right (Score:5, Insightful)
Tor like oatmeals! (Score:0, Insightful)
Re:Security and cost- yeah right (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Security and cost- yeah right (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Security and cost- yeah right (Score:5, Insightful)
In other words, "How secure are we that we won't get caught, and how much political influence will it cost us if we are."
Re:Data mining tool (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Security and cost- yeah right (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Security and cost- yeah right (Score:3, Insightful)
Sure, mod me down because I'm a) anonymous, and b) sound like a crackpot. However, do yourself, your kids (if you've got 'em), and me a favor. If you've got kids, take a close look at how they're interacting with the world... and how the world is interacting with them. If you don't have kids, at least take a look at how the school board in your area is instructing kids. It's frequently enlightening.
Ambitious ??? (Score:2, Insightful)
Who fucking wrote this, Fox News?
How about "illegal"?
Name change only (Score:5, Insightful)
Anti-terrorist methodology (Score:4, Insightful)
The real problem is the supply of money. Without money no terrorist network can function, training and supplying insurgents of any sort costs a heck of a lot to do. It's not about whichever ideal people think they're striving for, it's political manipulation and money behind it. The US would make more ground investigating the US bank accounts of certain very rich nations who export petrochemicals and use profits to make this whole thing happen. Terrorism isn't a standard response, it's a political attack and must not be treated like petty crime.
I've not mentioned any brand of terrorism, many fit the bill -- please don't think I'm stereotyping here.
Re:Anti-terrorist methodology (Score:3, Insightful)
What makes you think that this wasn't one of the parameters this thing would look for.
Re:Security and cost- yeah right (Score:5, Insightful)
Ultimately, that's what warrants are for. Not just for lawmen to get permission to snoop, but so that there's a record of it having happened at all.
Warrantless surveillance doesn't only mean that there's no controls over whether or not we're spied upon, but that we can't even ask the question. Is there any danger that would justify giving a government agency unlimited license to violate civil rights?
Re:Security and cost- yeah right (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Security and cost- yeah right (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:The price of freedom is eternal vigilence? (Score:3, Insightful)
Expecting all government agencies to accept full oversight and have court approval, even if it's a secret court, for any and all domestic spying is just and reasonable. Expecting unpopular surveillance programs, such as TIA [wikipedia.org], to remain scrapped when the public demands they be scrapped, instead of split up and farmed to less scrutinized agencies is simply government accountability, not paranoia.
These people are the good guys until they become the bad guys, and if we let them get that far, then we've given them too long of a leash, and it's too damned late.
They should be watched like a hawk by Congress and by citizen groups alike. It isn't good enough, in today's data mining age, to trust the "good guys" to secure our safety. We have to be protected from the protectors as well. Demand greater Congressional oversight and procedures for this relatively new, power hungry department. It's the duty of every American to secure his own freedom through participatory democracy, not trust.
Or, if you prefer: "Trust, but verify."
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Makes it sound like the decision is already made. (Score:3, Insightful)
this is like saying:
"You will be given a fair trial, followed by your execution."