Chinese Bloggers Encouraged to Register Contact Info

Raver32 writes "Blog service providers in China are "encouraged" to register users with their real names and contact information, according to a new government document that tones down an earlier proposal banning anonymous online blogging. At least 10 major Chinese blog service providers have agreed to sign the "self-discipline pledge" issued by the Internet Society of China, the state-run Xinhua News Agency reported."

Re:Oblig: In the Soviet ...

[OddThinking]

And how many would have to disappear before someone wondered where their blogger went to?

Re:Oblig: In the Soviet ...

[ReTay]

So you know for a fact that 0 people are in gitmo for this, or in CIA secret prisons, or have been exported for torture for any of these actions? Oh, right they won't tell us who is in these places so we really don't know. They could disappear people for this stuff and we would never know.

Ok take off the tinfoil
The difference is you are guessing. Second it is a known fact that people get imprisoned in China for speaking out about the government in a perceived incorrect manner. After all you are still posting right? They did not come get you now did they?

Re:The US and human rights

[burndive]

Really? So how did the USA wind up on the side that was against the fascists in the first place? Could it be because of deep philosophical differences, namely the principles of human rights? Naw, that would be too obvious.

Also, the Nazis never attacked the USA, it was the Japanese who attacked Pearl Harbor.

And they even now talk bullshit nad close eyes on what happens in China

What would you suggest? Economic sanctions? Open war?

Freedom for Tibet and defending human rights end for the US when there is no oil in the defended country. The censorship and laughter from human rights will continue if no hard actions will be executed

Wait... so now you WANT America to come and make every corner of the world safe for democracy? It's so dizzying.

I suppose it's to be open war then, unless there's some other form of "hard action" you have in mind. That'll be real good for the world. Much better than gradual cultural reform. I'm sure China will simply hand Tibet over without a fight, because they're pretty reasonable about having things taken away from them.

If the people of Tibet really want to be free, they should stand up for their right to self-determination, or at least representation in government.

Re:Oblig: In the Soviet ...

[Tackhead]

> Going from Chinese civil rights violations to nonsensical ranting about Microsoft in three steps isn't in itself remarkable. But doing it with an "In Soviet Russia..." post in the middle certainly is!

Really?

The original poster wasn't talking about China -- he was claiming that Post-9/11 America is a "freer" country than China, because relatively few Americans' rights had been abused.

Programmers (application developers or operating systems designers) secure computer systems from malicious users by denying our programs the ability to escalate their own privileges.

Pre-9/11 America was designed along the same principles: Governments, in order to secure the liberty of their citizens, limited their own powers.

An operating system isn't secure "because it hasn't been hacked". It can only be deemed secure when userland processes can't be compromised by bad input, and if (that is, when) a userland process is compromised, the operating system denies the compromised process the ability to take over the rest of the machine. Segmentation fault: Core dumped.

Likewise, a country isn't free "because no US bloggers have been imprisoned for criticizing the US government". A country can only be deemed free when a blogger can't be legally imprisoned for criticizing his or her government, and if (that is, when) some grandstanding politician manages to pass law like that, the law is immediately struck down as unconstitutional.

You secure a system by making it hard to compromise. When the guy in Marketing wants software to be automatically installed when a user visits a web page "because everyone hates installing software", the only correct response is "NO."

You secure a citizen's rights by making it hard for anyone, even yourself, to take them away. When the guy on the campaign trail wants to spy on everyone "because it's for the children", the correct response must again be "NO."

Re:Oblig: In the Soviet ...

[edumacator]

The wonderful thing about believing in a government conspiracy is that no one can prove you wrong.

Having no proof of the conspiracy just proves that it's a really good one, and therefore we should be more afraid.

I think we should be vigilant about protecting our rights, but let's be careful about assuming things that are unsubstantiated.

Re:Does anyone know

[Chandon Seldon]

Is it common knowledge in the USA just how much the government / mainstream media warps people's view of the world through carefully constructed propaganda?

Your reaction to that statement is probably about the same as the way a Chinese person of similar political awareness would react to your statement. Actually, if anything, the big difference between a Chinese and American person is acceptance vs. denial.

Re:Does anyone know

[Conspiracy_Of_Doves]

Is it common knowledge in the USA just how much the government / mainstream media warps people's view of the world through carefully constructed propaganda?

Honestly? I have no idea. I know that I know that the government and media warp everything, and my friends are aware of it too. But I have no idea how much the average person is aware of it.