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FCC to Develop 'Super V Chip' To Screen All Content 408

An anonymous reader writes "The Senate Commerce Committee has stepped in and approved a legislation asking the Federal Communications Commission to 'oversee the development of a super V-chip that could screen content on everything from cell phones to the Internet.' Since the content viewed by children is no longer restricted to TV or radio Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Ark., the sponsor of the Child Safe Viewing Act, feels that the new law is necessary. 'The bill requires the FCC to review, within one year of enactment, technology that can help parents manage the vast volume of video and other content on television or the Internet. Under the 1996 Telecommunications Act, TV makers are required to embed the V-chip within televisions to allow parents to block content according to a rating system.'"
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FCC to Develop 'Super V Chip' To Screen All Content

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  • Why not... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by deftcoder ( 1090261 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @08:52AM (#20099787)
    Why not just turn your children over to the government when they're born?

    Parents today obviously have ZERO interest in spending time with their children and monitoring their activities and habits.

    This is ridiculous.
  • by BrunoBigfoot ( 996441 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @08:56AM (#20099823)
    Unplug the TV.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, 2007 @08:57AM (#20099831)
    ..carpeting the whole world because we refuse to wear shoes instead.

    It is our obligation, as adults, not to prevent the reality from reaching the senses of minors, but to provide adequate explanations and guidance. Those technical censoring measures are the result of the intention to avoid adult responsibilities, to "sweep the problem under the rug", so to say.
  • All content? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by captainboogerhead ( 228216 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @08:57AM (#20099835) Journal
    ...except commercials.
  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:02AM (#20099863)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by conspirator57 ( 1123519 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:04AM (#20099883)
    something as complex as one of these here deep packet inspection thingys, and even that will fail against determined content providers. http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/Deep-packe t-inspection-meets-net-neutrality.ars [arstechnica.com]

    Wherever there's a person going through puberty, there you will most likely find prurient material.

  • by glindsey ( 73730 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:05AM (#20099887)
    So every form of content that exists will require a mandatory rating by some sort of standards body? Because, after all, that's how the V-chip works at the moment.

    Yeah, good luck with that, folks.
  • by NJVil ( 154697 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:05AM (#20099891)
    Last night I went out to dinner with two close friends. As we watched, a mother semi-ignored her 4 or 5 year old girl as she cried and screamed and jumped up and down in a royal temper tantrum. It seems mom was too busy chatting with her friend to notice as the girl bellowed at the top of her lungs even as one of the waiters came over and offered the girl a balloon to silence the child. The mother occasionally glanced at the girl and said things like "It's okay." and "What's wrong?" then went right back to gossiping with her friend about what was going on at her job. This went on for 15-20 minutes until she finished her conversation and then all three left.

    It's bad enough that some parents think that television is a babysitter. It's even worse that some feel the Internet is a more interactive babysitter. Now, it seems, your cell phone and ipod are capable of acting as babysitters.

    Sadly, judging from my experience in the restaurant, technology might actually be a better babysitter than some parents...
  • Overkill (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ThosLives ( 686517 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:06AM (#20099899) Journal

    This technology is all overkill anyway, and here's why:

    To view content, you have to physically have access to a device that can display the content. As a parent, you should be able to remove that physical access for all 'locally controlled' devices; you can't prevent them from watching a friend's phone or whatever regardless of V-chips or whatever.

    There is this thing called an 'off switch' and, failing that, circuit breakers.

    You don't want them to have a phone, don't give them money to buy one. If they're old enough to get a job to afford their own, then they should already have the capacity to handle whatever content they can obtain anyway.

    To me, these laws just take away responsibility and, with it, freedom from the general populace.

  • Re:Why not... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by garcia ( 6573 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:09AM (#20099933)
    Parents today obviously have ZERO interest in spending time with their children and monitoring their activities and habits.

    Being that I am finally of the age where my friends and co-workers have young children and I myself may soon have a child, I am noticing more and more the teaching and parenting skills that people have.

    Now, I am continuously out and about and watch the result of poor parenting when the little bastard bites your leg [bash.org] but recently I have been noticing a backlash against this. Parents are starting to spank their kids again (in public no less, the horror!), sternly talking to them instead of baby talk and asking what their true feelings are, and generally raising children that aren't going to run out in the middle of the street and then stare at you like it was your fault that you almost hit them.

    What this is, aside from the vocal minority of those parents that are still parentally retarded, is the politicians doing everything they can to create more censorship and centralized control under the guise of saving the children. If anything, these people aren't bad parents because they can't control their brats, it's that they can't control their government.

    Not controlling the government is far more scary than some little shithead not getting to watch Denis Leary call someone a fucking cocksucker and talk about his erection likelihood on Rescue Me.
  • Re:Why not... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by zebslash ( 1107957 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:09AM (#20099939)
    I know also parents that work 10hour/day (and more with sometimes 2 jobs) just to afford the rent, the daycare of their child and basic needs. Not all parents who work a lot just throw away their money.
  • by sesshomaru ( 173381 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:11AM (#20099957) Journal
    At some point, it becomes really, really obvious that t his is what we actually call "government pork." Delicious, nutritious, government pork! The only question left is, who is being fed by this unfunded mandate?

    More concerning is the new anti-TV violence rules. I really don't want to go back to the days of the A-Team where you could have machine guns as long as they never hit anyone.

  • by insanemime ( 985459 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:14AM (#20099975)
    Ah yes...one step closer to a society that takes no responsibility for anything their children do. I guess you could argue that using a technology such as a super V chip helps parents automatically filter content that they are concerned their kids will see. Unfortunately, as a computer tech, I see so many parents ask tech shops about spying software and filtering software so they don't have to actively monitor what their kids are doing. If a parent is worried with who their kid is chatting with online then they need to be involved and ask. Parents have built in monitoring called "looking". I know its a low-tech foreign concept but it works. If you are open and honest with your kids, actively talk to them about dangers, keep them using search engines that filter bad content by default (like google) and watching what they are doing and who they are talking to on the internet then things like this are not needed. But that would take too much responsibility I guess.
  • It is our obligation, as adults, not to prevent the reality from reaching the senses of minors, but to provide adequate explanations and guidance. Those technical censoring measures are the result of the intention to avoid adult responsibilities, to "sweep the problem under the rug", so to say.

    Sorry, but I disagree. It is our responsibility as adults to introduce children to reality as they are able to understand the explanations and guidance. A five-year-old is not likely to understand any possible explanation for a violent rape scene that he/she saw on TV. I'm really astounded that people think of the V-chip as censorship. Could somebody explain exactly how a screening tool that can be turned on or off by the owner is censorship? The V-chip is nothing more than a tool. It can be used for good and for bad. Good parents will carefully monitor what their children are watching (either to keep them away from inappropriate content or to explain questionable content). Bad parents will rely solely on the V-chip (a huge mistake) to allow them to shirk their responsibility. I have two children. I use the parental lock-down features on my cable box, but I also monitor what they are watching. The parental lock-down is nice because it cuts down on inappropriate content that may show up while I'm running through channels in the presence of my children. It also makes sure my eight-year-old isn't going to change channels to something that's not suitable for him (or his little sister) while I'm in the bathroom. But I'm also fully aware that it is not a substitute for responsible parenting. Some channels don't include rating informations for all shows (The Science Fiction channel and HDNet are two notable offenders), and the most questionable content comes from the commercials rather than the programming itself. Therefore, I make sure I'm there to explain behavior that is and is not appropriate. I like the V-chip as a tool, and nothing more. These laws aren't about mandating that people _use_ the V-chip. They are about making sure that it's available for those who _want_ to use it.
  • Oblig.: (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TripMaster Monkey ( 862126 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:20AM (#20100051)
    Have you ever considered turning off the TV...sitting down with your children...and hitting them?

    - Bender
  • by mdwh2 ( 535323 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:23AM (#20100087) Journal
    Could somebody explain exactly how a screening tool that can be turned on or off by the owner is censorship? ... These laws aren't about mandating that people _use_ the V-chip.

    True, but it is mandating (I think) that every adult has to pay for it, presumably in everything from computers to phones, which is still an issue. What's wrong with overseeing the development to make it available as an option to those who want it?

    There's also the question of how they intend to implement a rating system for the Internet.
  • by cyberjock1980 ( 1131059 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:24AM (#20100097)
    Back in the 50s, the TV was for the most part clean. Kids could watch most of what was on TV with very little considered to be 'unacceptable for a child to watch'.

    Today it seems like kids are very limited in terms of what would be 'acceptable'. Now maybe I'm just crazy or too tired to think straight, but WHY are we watching/listening to this 'crap' on TV? If it's so bad for our kids, is it really that good for us adults? Sure, there's definite limits. Can't exactly show the evening news on Iraq on Nickelodeon, but it seems like TV is just getting more and more into the realm of 'not really worth anything'. Maybe Mr. Roger's had it right when

    With using the 'N' word in music and the crap-tastic "reality shows", if it's not good for my kids, is it really good for adults? Is your point conveyed that much better adding the F-bomb to your sentence?

    Sometimes I swear we're really all a bunch of teenagers rebelling against our parents and listening to the F-bomb and N-word just to rebel(are we trying to prove we're really adults?). Why don't we grow up and realize that crap isn't really doing us any good, and just quit allowing that junk on TV/Radio? Maybe I should enable this new Super V-Chip just to block out the garbage I shouldn't be watching anyway?

    Disclaimer: I'm in my late 20's, so maybe my concept of what was on TV in the 50's is totally hosed.
  • by gillbates ( 106458 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:33AM (#20100219) Homepage Journal

    You know, so I could screen out shows that would insult my intelligence?

    Just think of the possibilities:

    1. An A chip to screen out those artsy-fartsy types of human-interest documentaries and other drivel that joe-sixpack isn't interested in seeing.
    2. A B chip to screen out Budweiser{approved,sponsored} content for all of those artsy-fartsy types who think NASCAR is boring and mindless.
    3. A C chip to screen out cartoons for those of us who've outgrown them.
    4. A D chip to screen out Democrats and other politicians with whom I don't agree.
    5. A P chip to screen out unpatriotic content (Possible overlap with a D chip?).
    6. A BS chip to screen Fox news.
    7. ...

    Yeah, that's it! A chip for everyone! The world will finally be safe from itself ;-)

    Come to think of it, I could just turn off the tv or change the channel... Hmmm...

  • Re:Why not... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by proud american ( 1003577 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:35AM (#20100253)
    Spoken like someone who doesn't have children.

    I have four with a 12 year age span. I spend a lot of time with all of them. I can't monitor everything they do, all of the time, and I don't want to.

    Just because they know what they are supposed to do doesn't mean they actually will do it.

    So yes, I use the TV parental controls to keep them from surfing where they should not be. I use McAcfee and SpectorPro on my computer to monitor and set internet access levels and time limits.

    The technology gives parents the power to enforce the limits they wish to set. If you don't want to set any, or dont want to enforce them, that's your perogative.

  • Remember one thing (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Man On Pink Corner ( 1089867 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:47AM (#20100427)
    They said that the original V-Chip would put control of TV content in the hands of parents and take government out of the censorship business.

    THEY LIED.

    Censors always lie.

    If you think it'll be any different this time -- if you think that if you give them what they want, they'll go away happy -- then you're either hopelessly naive or just plain nuts.
  • by FatSean ( 18753 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:51AM (#20100475) Homepage Journal
    Those people cannot afford children. Even with all the free tax credits and rebates subsidized by the child-less people of the USA, these people can't hack it. They made bad decisions and over-estimated their earning potential...and we're all going to get to bail them out of their stupid choices. Wonderful.

  • by GreggBz ( 777373 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:00AM (#20100591) Homepage

    semi-ignored her 4 or 5 year old girl as she cried and screamed and jumped up and down in a royal temper tantrum.


    It's best to ignore such a child. You see, when you grow up, whining and screaming does not get you balloons. You want to learn that lesson early.

    Either that or give the child some strong negative reinforcement. But I can see a mother being uncomfortable with that in a crowded restaurant.
  • Re:Why not... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:11AM (#20100705)
    No. Actually, that technology give parents the fuzzy good feeling that they're in control. Newsflash: They're not. Did it work when your dad told you you are not supposed to go to that extremely important once-a-lifetime concert? Or did you sneak out?

    Technology alone cannot solve problems. Realize 2 things: First of all, your kids have way more time to figure out ways around your access control than you have to review whether your access controls work. And second, you have no control over the TVs of their friends. Even if your kids can't figure out how to circumvent the V-Chip, they simply go to their friends and watch that video there.
  • by insanemime ( 985459 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:24AM (#20100869)
    Ok that crap is a cop-out. If the child is acting up like that in any public place you at least need to teach them that that sort of behavior is not ok. I have a 4-year old son and he knows better then to cause a hissy fit in a public place. They begin throwing a tantrum, take them outside and make them sit a time-out on a bench and if the behavior continues or they will not listen then a pop on the butt is called for. If it still continues then it is time to go home where they can't do anything they want to do..no TV no toys, etc. Eventually they will get the message. Yes it may be an inconvenience to you, but if you curb this sort of behavior then they will learn how to behave. Just because you become a parent does not mean that you should now ignore common courtesy for people around you. Remember how annoying crying kids were before you had one. Think about that next time your kid throws a fit and you decide to ignore him/her.
  • by FatSean ( 18753 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:24AM (#20100875) Homepage Journal
    I don't see why the under-performers in our society need to get the biggest (relative) incentives to breed! Perhaps we should be giving at least the same incentives to child-bearing couples of every socio-economic class instead of cutting most of them off at the middle-middle-class mark.

  • Re:Why not... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by EveLibertine ( 847955 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:33AM (#20101045)
    I agree that technologies like these are useful tools to put in the hands of parents. On the other hand, it seems completely unnecessary for the government to get involved in, but its a not an issue for me as the government seems to be wasting its time on far useless projects, or implementing truly invasive technologies that require attention much more than this little project merits. The headline to this, "To Screen All Content" is misleading and sensationalist, implying that the censorship is somehow automatic and compulsory. Furthermore, the reason the article itself gives for the implementation of this article uses quite specious logic to justify the legislation, "Since the content viewed by children is no longer restricted to TV or radio, Sen. Mark Pryor feels that the new law is necessary", which only fans the flames to make this otherwise insignificant issue appear to be notable.

    It seems to be quite a challenge to find an valid argument that could possibly portray this in a bad light. I agree that the law doesn't seem necessary, but the effect of having the FCC overview the creation and implementation of a new V-Chip standard doesn't exactly sound too particularly Orwellian for my tastes.
  • by MBGMorden ( 803437 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:36AM (#20101101)
    Well, truthfully from what I've seen children of "under performing" people are often the over achievers of the next generation. They grow up hard and aren't afraid of work. On the flip side many rich kids who take it easy coast through life on their parent's efforts grow up and don't do a damn thing with their lives. They keep at this, as do their children, and their children, until the family runs out of money and one generation grows up poor (or poor-ish). That serves as their proverbial "kick in the ass" and the cycle continues.

    Don't be so quick to write off the children of those "under-performers". Most of them is what keeps this country functioning.
  • Re:Why not... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by proud american ( 1003577 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:48AM (#20101281)
    Different ages, different solutions. My kids are all under 13.

    I don't expect technology alone to completely solve anything. It can help though. No reason not to leverage the technology made available for the purpose. At this point I'm a lot more technically skilled then they are. My oldest already know that if they consistently abuse their privileges it will be easy for me to cut them off completely.

    Just recently I put a new digital tuner tv in my kitchen. No premium decoder attached. My 5 year old is trying to find SpongeBob and instead gets 'HBO cathouse'. It seems that on-demand programming requested by your neighbors can get picked up by any digital tv on the block in a certain channel range. Leaving them unblocked makes no sense to me.

    Just because I can't control what happens outside my house doesn't mean I shouldn't control what happens inside it.

  • Re:Why not... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Qzukk ( 229616 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @11:01AM (#20101533) Journal

    And the kids' daycare.
    Thats what the poster said, "HD Cable with on-demand and HBO, 6MB DSL, 4 cell phones with unlimited texting with 2 year contracts, ... the Wii, xbox 360, playstation III".
  • I want to opt out. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by FatSean ( 18753 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @11:06AM (#20101615) Homepage Journal
    I want to save money on a feature I'll never use. I want to buy a TV without this Super-V-Chip in it.
    I can't? Oh joy. Perhaps the parents should pay MORE for a TV with MORE FEATURES instead of the government forcing everyone to pay for it.

  • by Belial6 ( 794905 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @11:48AM (#20102293)
    That is a fine point. Even more so, our society has redefined the word "kid". What in the hell are we doing calling 13, 14 and 15 year olds "kids". People of these ages have gone to war, run nations, built nations, had children, run households, committed horrendous crimes, and brought others who have committed horrendous crimes to justice. For thousands of years, puberty was the defining line between child and adult, and in just a few generations, we have retarded our entire population. The fact that we live longer is no excuse to retard our children. Our society is not more complex than it was 200 years ago. And, while I cannot speak for the rest of the population, I know that MY genetic code has not degraded to the point that it takes 18 or 20 years to reach the mentality of a 13 year old.
  • by L0rdJedi ( 65690 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @02:47PM (#20105131)
    Forced my ass. Nobody makes anybody go into debt but themselves. It's more like a generation that doesn't know what "NO" means. Those of us that do know what "NO" means actually have a savings account and nearly no debt. Our children will also know what "NO" means because they won't be getting everything they ask for. When they get old enough, they'll be able to buy they're own stuff and learn how to save, just like we did.

    So what you'll have is a class of people that know the value of a dollar and know how to save. Then you'll have everyone else that's in debt up to their ears, teetering on bankruptcy. The first class of people will be making money off the second since the second class is to stupid to learn anything.

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