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IBM Grants Universal and Perpetual Access To IP 118

StonyandCher writes "IBM is making it easier to utilize its patented intellectual property to implement nearly 200 standards in the SOA, Web services, security and other spaces. Under a pledge issued by the company Wednesday, IBM is granting universal and perpetual access to intellectual property that might be necessary to implement standards designed to make software interoperable. IBM will not assert any patent rights to its technologies featured in these standards. The company believes its move in this space is the largest of its kind."
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IBM Grants Universal and Perpetual Access To IP

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  • by smilindog2000 ( 907665 ) <bill@billrocks.org> on Thursday July 12, 2007 @05:28AM (#19835691) Homepage
    If you live in a country with no IP protection, your point of view might make some sense, but IBM still makes plenty of money on software, so going fully open-source is unlikely, even if you believe it's the right thing to do. I think no other company but perhaps Sun has done as much for Linux and open-source as IBM, at least if you discount the Linux distro publishers. For some reason, Big Blue seems to have decided to side with the public good rather than fear open-source as most corporations do. I don't fully understand how a monster company like IBM can act like this, while virtually every other huge corporation out there seems to be guided by Dilbert's boss.

    I agree with the kudos! Let's hope Big Blue can keep on proving that large corporations don't have to be evil!
  • by jkrise ( 535370 ) on Thursday July 12, 2007 @05:34AM (#19835715) Journal
    The standards should stand on their own. Open source products can embrace them regardless if commercial software remains closed.

    The biggest and most commonly used 'product' to develop SOA-compliant applications is the JBoss stack - JBoss Enterprise Middleware Suite, JEMS for short. It is open source, and uses the Rosetta ESB for building SOA apps.

    Despite it's open source nature, RedHat is making a pile of money on JBoss - from training, certifications, consulting, site implementations etc. In fact RedHat makes over a billion dollars a year, based purely on Open Source offerings. Commercial success and Open Source offerings aren't mutually exclusive - if IBM really believes in the Open Source philosophy, they ought to make their offerings Open Source, else they risk dwindling mindshare.... and unltimately marketshare as well.
  • A bad thing? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by sincewhen ( 640526 ) on Thursday July 12, 2007 @05:36AM (#19835729)
    This may be a bad thing, as the IP/patent system is becoming so broken that a fix will be required. But acts like this may prolong the status quo as supporters of the current system can point to this example and say "Look, the system balances itself." Personally, I wouldn't rely too much on the kindness of large corporations (or small ones).
  • Maybe...maybe not (Score:3, Interesting)

    by djupedal ( 584558 ) on Thursday July 12, 2007 @05:50AM (#19835793)
    "The company believes its move in this space is the largest of its kind."

    If the definition of 'move' and 'space' mean that certain baseline/root information was made available in a manner that meant both easier access and freedom to use it, with the expectation that such a move would foster more information and more giving, etc. etc, I contend that when the printing press was unleashed, a much larger move occurred, in a similar place.

    Don't get me wrong - I'm not chipping on IBM, but if you are doing good for goods' sake, then do it, but please try to leave out the part where you paint yourself up as all warm and fuzzy and giving :)
  • by jkrise ( 535370 ) on Thursday July 12, 2007 @05:58AM (#19835821) Journal
    Please how explain how open source automatically translates to "mindshare". I don't really see the link, but I'm interested in hearing your thoughts behind that assertion.

    I thought it was obvious. Why is Microsoft finding it difficult to retain "Devleopers, Developers and Developers"? Because their philosophy is Closed Source, and developers like to control their entire development environment - from the IDE to the compiler, to the authentication mechanism, the security model, the protocols, port numbers etc. Merely unencumbering a standard from patemts is only half the battle won - people will flock to an implementation of said standard that is patent unencumbered AND Open source at the same time.

    Open sourcing a platform like Websphere or a collabarative suite like Lotus Notes will not be a commercial disaster, like the bloke who modded my original post 'Troll' seems to believe.
  • Motivation (Score:5, Interesting)

    by bentcd ( 690786 ) <bcd@pvv.org> on Thursday July 12, 2007 @06:49AM (#19835985) Homepage
    The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if this is the payback for the "User Product" language in part 6 of GPL3 ( http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html [gnu.org] ) - which seems to be aimed at making GPL software cooptable for purely business purposes.

    The more rational side of me observes that IBM probably sees itself writing the business logic side of the web services architecture in the future, and doesn't really care much who wrote the middleware so long as it just works. Letting people write middleware without fear of IP lawsuits would tend to facilitate this.
  • by wellingj ( 1030460 ) on Thursday July 12, 2007 @07:36AM (#19836185)
    You should probably read The Innovator's Dilemma [businessweek.com].
    Or maybe just read about the concepts [wikipedia.org] presented in the book.
  • by gujo-odori ( 473191 ) on Thursday July 12, 2007 @07:53AM (#19836269)
    How can a monster company like IBM act like this? It's not mostly out of altruism, although I am sure they have some. IBM invented FUD, as any old-time mainframer can tell you.

    Why, then, do they do it? The number one reason IBM supports open standards, supports open source, has opened its patents, and has contributed so much code to Linux is that IBM believes it can compete more effectively on a more level playing field. Compete against whom? Microsoft, mostly. When there is an entrenched de facto monopoly that fully dominates one area of your business (the dekstop) and is trying to muscle in on your turf (higher end servers, databases, web services, hosted services) and has already muscled in very successfully on your groupware turf, how do you fight back?

    You try to level the playing field by commoditizing the thing your opponent sells. Microsoft is a software company; IBM sells a lot of software, but their primary business is hardware and services. If they can commoditize the software that runs on their hardware and on which they provide value-added services, it gives them a competitive advantage against software companies (and against hardware companies that don't use open source, too). The revenue stream of the software company goes down, while the revenue they make on service and on hardware sales increases as a result of reduced software costs.

    While Sun also has some altruism (maybe more than IBM, because Sun's roots are in BSD; IBM's roots are firmly in proprietary software), I think it's a pretty good bet that the main reason for open-sourcing Solaris and Java is that they weren't making a lot of money on those things anyway (Solaris used to cost hundreds of dollars a copy, then it became essentially free as in beer) and Microsoft has done a pretty good job of fighting off Java on a lot of fronts, so if they open-source Java and Solaris they get:

    -Commoditization pressure on Microsoft
    -The same benefits of that pressure that IBM reaps, because like IBM, Sun is a hardware and consulting company that also sells software
    -Probably more Java mindshare and marketshare
    -Some respect from the FOSS community; what accountants call good will
    -Linux might stop eating Solaris' lunch a little bit on the lower end of Sun's market

    Why do they hope HP will do this too? Because of HP is the same kind of company Sun and IBM are, although HP is more purely a hardware play than either Sun or IBM. If they follow suit and start opening their patent portolio and maybe even open source HP/UX, that puts even more commoditization pressure on Microsoft. Of course, Sun, IBM, and HP all compete against each other - they're selling into the same markets - but each of them views Microsoft as more of a threat. If they all act to substantially level the playing field by opening up lots of their IP, that will make a significant counterweight to Microsoft's dominant position.

    Fast forward five to ten years into the future and envision one possible scenario: the successor to Vista has just been released, or maybe hasn't even made it yet. Some places are still running XP. Linux has continued it's slow push onto the desktop and has pushed even farther into the server market. IBM, Sun, and HP all sell servers with either Linux or Solaris, AIX, or HP/UX. Same price either way; the lot have been open-sourced.

    On the desktop side, Dell is still selling Linux machines, and they've been joined by Gateway, Lenovo, maybe even Sony (OK, that last one is crazy talk :p). Linux has a 5-10% desktop market share, and Apple has risen to 10% also. Google has 1/4 of the office suite market, and is competing very effectively with Microsoft Exchange Hosted Services for spam filtering, email archiving, and IM & web security.

    Microsoft is still a formidable company, with a huge warchest of cash and a lot of highly successful product lines, but the combined weight of its competitors has not only checked its market share gains, but reversed a number of them.

    Linux and Mac c
  • by beheaderaswp ( 549877 ) * on Thursday July 12, 2007 @08:01AM (#19836311)
    "How is it "logical" that IBM needs to open up their commercial products to entrench service standards? The standards should stand on their own. Open source products can embrace them regardless if commercial software remains closed."

    It depends on your perspective.

    On one hand, maintaining control over closed code creates a monopoly over the ability to *support* the product in question. While opensourcing the code creates competition in the support market.

    So the question people should be asking relates to where you want the competition to be?

    In other words, Redhat is successful because they support their product as well as or better than their competition, who also have access to the same source code as all other people who support the code. Microsoft, on the other hand, has the best support for their products, and all of the companies that support Microsoft products are reliant on Microsoft for technical information and patches. So there is limited competition in the market for support of Microsoft products, because support of Microsoft products, as a product, is controlled by Microsoft.

    Just my opinion. The FOSS model is universally better.
  • Re:A bad thing? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by delt0r ( 999393 ) on Thursday July 12, 2007 @08:07AM (#19836367)
    While I don't think its a bad thing, words like kindness and corporations don't belong together either. It pays to remember that the "evil" corporation in the 70's was IBM. So in 20+ years I have high hopes for M$.

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