Cryptome to be Terminated by Verio/NTT 171
George Maschke writes "Cryptome, a website concerned with encryption, privacy, and government secrecy, has received two weeks' notice from Verio that its service will be terminated for unspecified "violation of [its] Acceptable Use Policy." Cryptome has a history of making publicly available documents and information that governments would rather keep secret. For the notice, and a public response by Cryptome webmaster John Young, see Cryptome Shutdown by Verio/NTT."
Re:Already down - thanks slashdot (Score:5, Informative)
and get it shut down in minutes.
Google cache (Score:1, Informative)
text of the page (Score:1, Informative)
I would have posted it, but it tripped the lameness filter...
Re:any good soul? (Score:5, Informative)
I was able to read all of the pages peviously withdrawn with the exception of one (the Irish injunction) in minutes without going to cryptome. The rest of the site can also be found in the usual places.
If people are dumb to know about things like this I suspect we sholdn't go out of our way to tell them.
Here's an excerpt from a document withdrawn in 2001:
UNDERSTANDING AND HELPING INDIVIDUALS WITH HOMOSEXUAL PROBLEMS
Copyright 1995
LDS Social Services
USE OF THE DOCUMENT
This training document has been prepared for the exclusive use of LDS Social Services to assist staff, interns, and contract providers in their work with individuals having homosexual problems. Because the document is approved only for "in house" use, it should not be reproduced nor distributed to others outside of LDS Social Services.
UNDERSTANDING AND HELPING INDIVIDUALS WITH HOMOSEXUAL PROBLEMS
HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE
For more than 100 years homosexuality has been a topic of scientific and psychotherapy inquiry and debate. Freud and his contemporaries viewed homosexuality as a deviation or "inversion" of natural psychosexual development, the causes of which being as varied and numerous as the theorists espousing them. According to Freud, the deviation resulted primarily from a distorted parent-child relationship which led the child to reject his or her own gender role and identify with the opposite~sexed parent. This view received considerable empirical support later in this century through studies by Irving Bieber and a number of other researchers (Siegelmm, 1987).
But! These things hang by a thread. I would posit that people who want them archived should post them to usenet. A lot. In a world where news postings are routinely made into "google ad blogs" there'll be lots of copies on many servers around the world.
Some people think you can delete things off the Internet. They are fools.
(Note the invalid copyright notice on the above document. You have to say who it's copyrighted by, not just a date. Of course as an excerpt here for academic purposes it's covered by fair use under US copyright law).
mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
http://cryptome.quintessenz.org/mirror/cryptome-s
wrong. (Score:5, Informative)
if you want to go after somebody with a DMCA notice on something with no notice and no registration, you can easily register the copyright years later, then go after them.
Re:Already down - thanks slashdot (Score:5, Informative)
Cryptome and its affiliated sites will continue with another ISP, in the US or elsewhere. Or if necessary, underground, or via means not easily shuttered, or by way of whatever is invented for opposing technologies of information control (credit to Steven Wright, author of The Technologies of Political Control: http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm [cryptome.org]).
Re:Yet, VERIO.NET are happy to host spammers (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings.lasso?isp=ve
well with that kind of use policy.. no wonder (Score:4, Informative)
Re:No, that only applies in a democratic country (Score:3, Informative)
Move to NearlyFreeSpeech.net (Score:3, Informative)
My only relation is a happy, new customer. It may not be the best fit for Cryptome, but there are at least hosting providers that do give a shit about not bowing down to the status quo.
Re:any good soul? (Score:3, Informative)
Haha. Longer than that. There was a CIA study in the 1970s about this that concluded as long as there are modems and phone lines nothing about the network can be controlled. But who reads those things anyway?
I understand very well the implications of the US adopting the Berne convention rules on copyright on Jan 1 1990, I was just pointing out that a badly formed copyright notice looks foolish. With a valid copyright notice you could sue for punative/statutory damages but they flubbed it here. How gay.
Implicit right to copy is the reason usenet software can make thousands of copies of your work. You're asking it to make copies of your posting.
Re:Oer the land of the unfree and the home of weas (Score:2, Informative)