Vonage Wins Permanent Stay in Verizon Case 104
kamikaze-Tech writes "The US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington DC today issued Vonage a permanent stay of a previous court's injunction that would have barred it from signing up new customers. Vonage sought the stay following an April 6th decision by the US District Court in Alexandria, VA enjoining the company from using certain VoIP technology to add new customers."
still could be screwed? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Not so fast on that 'huge sigh' (Score:4, Interesting)
Very true, but it gives them time to try and get around the patents in question. So while I suspect the folks at Vonage corporate are happy, the tech staff is probably not popping champagne corks just yet.
Re:still could be screwed? (Score:5, Interesting)
Verizon's Bitch Whore... (Score:4, Interesting)
How about.. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Corperate America wins again (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Vonage sucks donkey balls, no, really! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Does the general public know? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Vonage sucks donkey balls, no, really! (Score:4, Interesting)
I've personally used Unlimitel (In Canada) for over a year and have been extremely happy with the service. $2.50/month for a DID and $0.01/minute for calls on their network, which is where I place most of my calls. It was far, far cheaper with me (With 4 DIDs) using their service than even basic service from other providers.
You're best off if you're running your own PBX, such as Asterisk, since you can provide your own voice mail services etc.
Jeff Pulver claims prior art.... (Score:4, Interesting)
Here: http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006846.html [pulver.com]
Verizon is looking more and more screwed every day....Re:Ok, so now what? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Somehow I can't imagine that Verizon really wan (Score:4, Interesting)
It's not about the money. Phone companies in general aren't about making money; They have more money than God. What do they need an extra 60 mil for?
The telcos are all about power; Consolidating theirs. If there are external voice players out there, they want them eliminated. A rival and real competition would threaten their hold on their market, and that's not something they'll stand for. VoIP has the potential to be the most disrupting technology since the internet itself; The telcoms are terrified of it. If they can supress it long enough to establish a strangle hold on it, they win.
Re:Good! (Score:3, Interesting)
I'd go with the simple "that patent is invalid" argument, and if that doesn't work a "they're a monopoly and should be made to license that patent for a court-determined cost" argument.
Re:Good! (Score:2, Interesting)
to be honest im surprised big oil hasnt teamed up with the auto industry to patent everything under the sun involving electric cars and then refuse to license it to anyone so that they can continue to avoid the electric car thing (watch 'who killed the electric car')
I really hate patent trolls, and I really side on vonage with this whole thing... but irregardless you cant just say fuck it they have all the control make them license everything.... and sadly the folks it will end up hurting the most is the FOSS community.. now commercial groups will have the means to forcibly pay for license to profit off Open source development.
the one and only problem here is the flock of moronic idiots who are in control of the USPTO... which reminds me, I wonder if they are hiring, it would probably be fun to do nothing and grant patents simply because i felt like it.
Re:verizon will do whatever it takes to win (Score:3, Interesting)
The single most troubling word in 'The Act' is 'impaired'. The RBOCS must provide a service to a CLEC at Unbundled Network Element (UNE) pricing if the CLEC would be impaired without it. The definition of impaired has been strongly contested for the past 10 years. Am I impaired when I don't have access to fiber to homes & businesses? I say yes, Verizon says no. The FCC agrees with Verizon.
I'm hoping Congress gets their act together with the 'Telecomunications Act of 2006', Maybe we'll see it in 2008, maybe it will be better written. It is more than just network nuetrality but that a big part