Diebold Sues Massachusetts for "Wrongful Purchase" 422
elBart0 writes "Diebold has decided to sue the commonwealth of Massachusetts for choosing a competitor to provide voting machines for the disabled. Diebold wants to force the state to stop using the machines immediately, despite the upcoming municipal elections in many towns. The commonwealth chose the competitor based on an open process that included disabled groups. Diebold executives appeared confused when encountering election officials who made an intelligent choice."
Reasons? We don't need no stinking reasons. (Score:5, Informative)
There isn't one. To save others the trouble, here's the closest thing to a reason they give:
I'm a little surprised they think they can sue just based on a gut feeling and expect to get away with it, but then again, it is Diebold. They seem to get away with just about anything.
Re:Biased Summary (Score:3, Informative)
So, they asked a judge to prevent MA from using AutoMARK machines already in the state's posession. Diebold admitted they had not developed a case yet. This sounds like confusion to me about both government bidding, and civil law.
Diebold doing themselves no favors (Score:2, Informative)
Not only are their machines vulnerable (which is what gives them a bad name) they then exacerbate the situation with a ridiculous lawsuit like this? "We didn't win the contract and there is no evidence of wrongdoing but we either want the court to award us the contract or re-open the competition." It's even more absurd because the selection process in the public sector is very open and very documented. While 9 million is a lot of money, I don't think it's worth the rep hit they are going to take, yet again.
Business as usual in government purchasing (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Makes sense (no, really!) (Score:5, Informative)
If it were as you say, it would almost make sense.
Diebold's position (Score:3, Informative)
To counter the editor's and the submitter's obvious bias against the company, here is their position as reported by a more professional journalist in TFA:
You, me, and any other private-sector entity do not have to explain our whims and caprices when (not) buying something (which may, actually, be unfortunate) to any one other than, perhaps, family members or stock-holders. The government, however, is legally obliged to pick the best — all of us are the stock-holders...
Knowing the policies and the corruption levels of Taxachusetts, Diebold may well be right suspecting something foul...
Diebold is, obviously, acting in its own best interests, but that's how life in this country is — we don't need people/companies to all be good and exemplary. Our system simply manages to pit the disagreeable qualities of some against such qualities of the others. In addition to the obvious free-market examples, we also rely on one (quite possibly crooked) politician to expose dishonesty of her opponent...
Re:In Soviet Massachusetts... (Score:5, Informative)
Which, of course, is totally ridiculous.
Some Selection Criteria is Not Quantifiable. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:In Soviet Massachusetts... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Try buying heating oil in CT... (Score:4, Informative)
I suspect you are misrepresenting this for greater outrage.
Here, in New York, I can sign up for an oil account at a fixed price. If oil rates go up I am protected because I keep paying the rate at the time I signed up (with all kinds of possible modifiers from different oil companies, like the price is reset each year, etc).
I am also locked in to that rate if oil prices go down.
If oil prices go down, many people try to 'cheat' on their accounts by buying oil from a cheaper oil company at the current rate. Note that it is not necessarily that my oil company is more expensive, it is that I have signed up for a fixed rate account with protection against oil price variations.
If the oil company sees that I have ordered significantly less than my house should use they will cancel my account because I have broken my deal with them. I can't enjoy the protection of a fixed price when the rates go up, but not buy from them when the rates go down. That's not the deal they are offering.
That is like getting a fixed rate mortgage on a house. As long as the current rates are higher than my mortgage I pay my mortgage. If current rates go down I stop paying my mortgage and start paying a variable rate instead. You can't do that. You would have to break your contract, cancel your account, and refinance with someone else.
But then, of course, you are no longer protected in case rates go up again.
Re:Biased Summary (Score:3, Informative)
That type of information should be available through the Freedom of Information Act, or the Massachusetts Public Records Law. In fact, even TFA says it's probably because Diebold machines spit out a different paper ballot for disabled people than for ordinary voters, which in a precinct that only has one or two disabled voters, removes the anonymity from voting.
From my perspective, it seems like Diebold is being a bully and trying to scare people from choosing competitors in the future.
Re:Diebold's position (Score:5, Informative)
You, me, and any other private-sector entity do not have to explain our whims and caprices when (not) buying something (which may, actually, be unfortunate) to any one other than, perhaps, family members or stock-holders. The government, however, is legally obliged to pick the best -- all of us are the stock-holders...
Knowing the policies and the corruption levels of Taxachusetts, Diebold may well be right suspecting something foul...
Way to counter bias. It's clear you did not even read the article, which says:
Weisberg said the company is not alleging any improprieties by the secretary of state's office. Instead, it is saying the office acted in good faith but made a mistake in the selection.
Diebold is alleging that they are clearly the best and therefore must always be picked. They are saying that the judge should award them the contract since the government made a mistake and picked a company other than theirs, which is the best. The government explained that the device they picked was reported as easier to use by disabled people and had some features which the Diebold machine lacks.
This suit was deliberately filed on the day of an election in which the machines would be used. Its very premise is frightening; according to Diebold they must be the only electronic voting machine manufacturer and whenever any other manufacturer is picked by a government entity that entity must be ordered by a judge to go with Diebold instead. It represents an attempt by a corporation to subvert the democratic process, which makes the fact they are a voting machine manufacturer even more frightening. In any case, this kind of thing cannot be allowed. Companies should not be able to sue the government every time they lose a bid for a contract. That will just create chaos and we will get even less accomplished through the government than we already do.
Identified vs anonymous votes - might be a reason? (Score:2, Informative)
At the end of the article is this bit:
Galvin said his office surveyed disabled groups and municipal election officials during the evaluation process after letting those groups test the competing machines. He said there was a consensus in favor of the AutoMARK.
Galvin cited as an important factor in favor of AutoMARK its machine's use of one kind of paper ballot for disabled voters and others. He said that gave extra privacy to disabled voters.
"If you happened to have only one disabled voter in a precinct, that person's ballot is easily identifiable," he said.
Does Diebold's system use different (read: identifiable) methods depending on the person's disability? That would certainly be a vote against them....
Re:In Soviet Massachusetts... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:In Soviet Massachusetts... (Score:5, Informative)
Give me a link, give me a summary of the link, and if you have a comment leave it with the rest of them.
Re:Diebold's position (Score:2, Informative)
Re:In Soviet Massachusetts... (Score:3, Informative)
Well, except going by the article, accessibility for the disabled seem to have been the deciding factor, and that AutoMark was considered better because it only uses one type of ballot rather than different types for disabled voters, and, that they came to this stance after sending machines out to organizations for people with disabilities for evaluation.
They could of course be lying, but it sort of makes sense. So I say there are perfectly valid grounds for speculation.
Laches (Score:4, Informative)
Laches
n. the legal doctrine that a legal right or claim will not be enforced or allowed if a long delay in asserting the right or claim has prejudiced the adverse party (hurt the opponent) as a sort of "legal ambush." Examples: a) knowing the correct property line, Oliver Owner fails to bring a lawsuit to establish title to a portion of real estate until Nat Neighbor has built a house which encroaches on the property in which Owner has title; b) Tommy Traveler learns that his father has died, but waits four years to come forward until the entire estate has been distributed on the belief that Tommy was dead; c) Susan Smart has a legitimate claim against her old firm for sexual harassment, but waits three years to come forward and file a lawsuit, after the employee who caused the problem has died, and the witnesses have all left the company and scattered around the country. The defense of laches is often raised in the list of "affirmative defenses" in answers filed by defendants, but is seldom applied by the courts. Laches is not to be confused with the "statute of limitations," which sets specific periods to file a lawsuit for types of claims (negligence, breach of contract, fraud, etc.).
No surprise given the systems. (Score:4, Informative)
For those unfamiliar with the dispute AutoMARK is a ballot marking system that allows voters with disabilities to use a touchscreen, keypad, or "binary switch" (sip and puff or gell-pad for people with no hands or little control over said hands say due to parkinson's or stroke) to fill out a printed ballot. The voter's choices are marked on the ballot using an ink that makes them suitable for scanning by any standard optical scanner (including the Diebold and ES&S scanners used in Massachusetts. The advantage of this system is that it enables voters with disabilities to cast the same type of ballot as everyone else thus avoiding the second-class-voter problem.
Diebold has no such device. In juristictions that use Diebold systems for accessibility, voters with disabilities cast their vote on a Diebold AccuVote-TS or TSX, a touchscreen Direct-Recording-Electronic system. Such votes are saved to the machine's internal flash disk and tallied at the end of the night separately from the votes cast on the optical scanners by every other person.
This is problematic for two reasons. Firstly, this means deploying two parallel voting systems on election day and tallying them separately. In effect this creates two classes of voters and subjects disabled voters to using a second-tier system. Similarly Diebold has yet to deploy the same range of accessibility features as are available on the AutoMark. For example they have yet to produce a usable "binary-switch" system.
For that reason I find it unlikely that Diebold will win this case because they are selling, quite simply, an inferior product.
Re:Diebold's position (Score:2, Informative)
Try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_tax_levels [wikipedia.org].
Re:In Soviet Massachusetts... (Score:3, Informative)
Galvin cited as an important factor in favor of AutoMARK its machine's use of one kind of paper ballot for disabled voters and others.
He said that gave extra privacy to disabled voters.
"If you happened to have only one disabled voter in a precinct, that person's ballot is easily identifiable," he said.