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Canadian Gov't Grants Olympics Ownership of Winter 145

An anonymous reader writes "Michael Geist reports that the Canadian government has introduced new legislation that grants Vancouver Olympic organizers broad powers to police the use of any commercial use of the words associated with the Olympics. These incredibly include 'winter, Vancouver, and games.' As Geist notes, the government 'has no time to deal with spam, spyware, privacy, or net neutrality, but commits to legislation on behalf of the organizers of a sporting event?'"
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Canadian Gov't Grants Olympics Ownership of Winter

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  • The Devil's Deal (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dj245 ( 732906 ) on Saturday March 03, 2007 @04:34AM (#18216060) Homepage
    This is likely part of agreements made in secret host city dealings with the Olympic committees. It seems to happen in all other host cities. Next up is the restriction of references to non-sponsored products and services. Sure, your rights have been stricken... but at least you can enjoy a nice cold Coca Cola while you watch the sporting events on the CBC.
  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday March 03, 2007 @04:41AM (#18216084)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • Good going! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Excelcia ( 906188 ) <slashdot@excelcia.ca> on Saturday March 03, 2007 @04:59AM (#18216164) Homepage Journal
    No, "Winter" is not being given away, just the right to use the word in certain advertising contexts that could be confused with the winter games. Every Olympic games there are vulture companies that tie themselves in advertising knots to appear to be official supporters without actually being. They use phrases like "Official supporter of Winter sports". This always burns my bacon that they get away with it. If you want to cash in on the Olympics, then support them and get the rights. Otherwise, get lost.

    The courts have better things do deal with than tie themselves in knots over this. I can't see this really being applied except in blatant cases, and overall I think it's a good thing. Another thing I can't see is why this is being painted so negatively.
  • Re:Good going! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by smoker2 ( 750216 ) on Saturday March 03, 2007 @05:09AM (#18216210) Homepage Journal
    Bollocks !

    If I owned a small guest house in London, I am banned from advertising that states "Thinking of coming to the London Olympics in 2012 ?, come stay with us at our comfortable hotel.

    Sorry, you have to buy the rights to use those words !

    That makes me a vulture does it ?

    Considering that it's largely taxpayers money that's building the fucking event, I think they could relax a bit on the heavy handed copyright.

    This is a good simile for software copyrights. Basic building blocks, common to all, arranged in a certain way can now be owned.

  • Dear God People! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03, 2007 @05:16AM (#18216232)
    Some MP introduced a new bill. Any MP can introduce any bill he or she wants. That doesn't make it law.

    And even if it was law, it does serve a valid purpose - to crack down on "ambush" marketing, where companies try to underhandedly suggest they are associated with the olympics when they are not.

    Save all the extremist knee-jerk reactions for after 1) the bill is made into law and 2) it is used to sue some poor sob who uses the word 'winter' on a lost dog poster.
  • by gordo3000 ( 785698 ) on Saturday March 03, 2007 @05:24AM (#18216256)
    um..... no.

    look up Jim Thorpe. And actually, the first pro athlete only was allowed in the olympics back in 1988, not that long ago. it was the dream team that started it. but its ok, they now let pro athletes in lots of the "popular" sports. but, lots of olympic athletes actually work pretty menial jobs. I've heard home depot employs loads because they give them so much leeway to practice their sports.
  • Re:Good going! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Excelcia ( 906188 ) <slashdot@excelcia.ca> on Saturday March 03, 2007 @05:38AM (#18216284) Homepage Journal
    First of all, the London you speak of is in the UK, not Canada, so you can consult your own government on what sort of laws you want to have over there.

    Secondly, reading the text of the bill, I don't see that even being a prohibited use. The stated reasoning of the bill is to act as "protection against certain misleading business associations". The wording instructs the courts to interpret whether the use of the protected words is for the purpose of misleading the consumer into believing that you are a sponsor of the games when you are not. Your case does not fall into that category, and would thus not be prohibited by the act. Thirdly, even if it was, if you owned a small guest house in Vancouver, you would not need to advertise "Thinking of coming to the Olympics in 2010" - you would more than likely be able to rent out the house in that time period. I don't even see a need to mention the event in that context - those shoping around will know.

    The act is written to narrowly interpret a broad spectrum of words. By that I mean, the courts are allowed to consider many words that could potentially be infringing, but those words must be used in a misleading manor in order to be prohibited.

    All in all, it's one of the better balancing acts my government has done in order to prohibit ambush marketing, and I aplaud it. So, your argument doesn't really hold water with me.
  • Challenge! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Excelcia ( 906188 ) <slashdot@excelcia.ca> on Saturday March 03, 2007 @06:01AM (#18216346) Homepage Journal
    The stupid masses you refer to must be the masses that read these articles, fall for the sensational headlines, and respond as you just have. The fact that no one is actually reading the the bill in question [parl.gc.ca] before leaping to wild conclusions about government censorship is rather annoying. The whole point of the bill is to stop ambush marketing with respect to the games. That is, to stop people from trying to look like they are official olympic supporters without actually being.

    I submit that the bill is very excellently worded, and I challenge you (or anyone else) to read the bill and come up with an example where the bill would unfairly restrict your freedom. By that, I mean restrict you from doing anything except ambush marketing. Anyone that needs to use any of the "restricted" words in order to promote legitimate business can do so:

    (4) Nothing in subsection (1) or (2) prevents
    (g) the use by a person of their address, the geographical name of their place of business, an accurate indication of the origin of their wares or services, or an accurate description of their wares or services to the extent that the description is necessary to explain those wares or services to the public
    So, as you can see, that little exception covers pretty much any legitimate use you might have. Describe how exactly this is Orwellian, please.
  • Re:huh? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by The Hobo ( 783784 ) on Saturday March 03, 2007 @06:10AM (#18216364)
    Our "amendments" are called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms [www.efc.ca] (I'd have used the official link but it seems the laws page of Justice Canada is down..)

    Our freedom of expression (freedom of speech) is listed in section 2. As far as the second amendment, we don't really have a need to carry guns.
  • by rtb61 ( 674572 ) on Saturday March 03, 2007 @07:36AM (#18216560) Homepage
    The bill itself still does reflect the true spirit of the modern Olympics, a cynical exercise in corporate marketing.

    Drugs, civil courts, politics, wildly inflated egos, corruption, endless corporate marketing, at least they could introduce some real blood sports to really reflect the true values of the modern Olympics, bring on the gladiators and the lions.

    I'm bored with the same old same old, and no I don't see the achievement in a person willing to run around in circles day after day after day.

  • by PopeRatzo ( 965947 ) * on Saturday March 03, 2007 @08:06AM (#18216662) Journal
    How about the "poor sob" who owns a clothing store and gets a C&D letter after he puts out an advert for his "Winter Sale"?

    How about using public outrage to smack down any silly legislator who proposes this kind of stuff so maybe he gets a clue that this isn't what the citizens want?

    Remember, a "knee-jerk reaction" can be used to kick someone in the ass.
  • by ArsenneLupin ( 766289 ) on Saturday March 03, 2007 @08:56AM (#18216860)

    The law essentially says you cannot mislead the public with advertising or promotions that suggest your business is endorsed by or connected to the Olympic Games and/or one of the organizing committess.
    Correct. But why the hell do they need to make a special case law for the Olympics. Wouldn't it make sense to make a general law that prohibits false claims of sponsorhip or affiliation? I smell a rat here.

    That's pretty much it. Draconian? Not really. Overly broad? Perhaps.
    Try overly narrow. The law should prohibit false claims of affiliation in general, and not make a special case out of the Olympics. Do not mention any words, but mention intent.


    If a business falsely claims to have sponsored an event or organization, give that organization the right to sue said business.


    If a business claims to have sponsored a non-existing organization, give consumer associations the right to sue.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03, 2007 @10:08AM (#18217268)

    How about the "poor sob" who owns a clothing store and gets a C&D letter after he puts out an advert for his "Winter Sale"?
    IANAL, but it is my understanding that trademark infringement only occurs if it causes confusion about the trademark and another (usually competing) product, like making another winter games with one of the trademarked terms. If it's completely unrelated to sport, there should be no problem.

    That's not to say that this is a good thing, but please, get some understanding of the issue before acting like the word "winter" will be banned.

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