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CoolC writes "Gamepolitics is reporting that attorney Jack Thompson is to face a disciplinary hearing before the Florida Supreme Court. The attorney faces five counts of professional misconduct, three of which are correlated with his ongoing campaign against violent video games. Thompson faces the possibility of disciplinary action up to and including disbarment."
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Jack Thompson Faces Disciplinary Hearing

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  • by macadamia_harold (947445) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @06:31AM (#17880036) Homepage
    Thompson faces the possibility of disciplinary action up to and including disbarment.

    I'm crossing my fingers in the hope that you misspelled dismemberment.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 04, 2007 @06:40AM (#17880088)
      If wishing a gruesome death on someone with whom you disagree isn't insightful, I don't know what is.
      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by chaosite (930734)
        First of all, its not gruesome death, just the loss of an unneeded appendage. Second, its not just that I don't agree with Jack Thompson - the man is disgusting in his conduct.

        http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/6292 72/Jack_Thompson_vs_Adam_Sessler.html [g4tv.com]
        • Re:i'm hoping... (Score:5, Insightful)

          by BakaHoushi (786009) <Goss.SeanNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday February 04, 2007 @09:01AM (#17880538) Homepage
          "Daddy, daddy! Teacher says everytime a jackass gets a long overdue punishment, an angel gets an orgasm!"

          To describe his conduct as "disgusting" is the understatement of the year. Even outside video games, listening to the things he says (neo-conservative religious freak... I don't care where you fall on the political spectrum, that spells "jackass.") makes me sick.

          Disbarment is too good for him, but I'll settle for it.
          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by Zeinfeld (263942)
            Reading through the comments it appears that his statements may well be the result of something other than his ideology. Such things happen. Quite why Slashdot has to treat each one as if it were an existential threat is beyond me.
            • Re:i'm hoping... (Score:5, Insightful)

              by BakaHoushi (786009) <Goss.SeanNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday February 04, 2007 @09:48AM (#17880722) Homepage
              If I may quote his Wikipedia article:
              "In 1992, Thompson asked a Florida judge to declare the Florida Bar Association unconstitutional. He claimed that the bar was engaged in a vendetta against him because of his religious beliefs, which he said conflict with what he called the bar's pro-gay, humanist, liberal agenda."

              We may disagree, however, I think this line here pretty much says to me that Mr. Thompson is a huge bigot. He's going for the "persecuted minority" (despite being a Christian, which is hardly the minority) routine. This is incredibly disgusting to me on every level. Is it wrong to wish to see him fact the consequences of his actions?

              I admit, we're biased. But we're also human, and we're talking of a man who has personally attacked our character (well, the character of anyone who ever plays games, anyway), our hobbies, and has in general, made himself out to be our enemy, as if he feeds off of animosity. Is it surprising we should take some enjoyment in watching and criticizing his actions, in hopes that they may be his downfall? Sorry if this is a bit of nonsensical rambling, but I see no reason we shouldn't be upset at him.
              • Re:i'm hoping... (Score:5, Insightful)

                by Torodung (31985) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @05:59PM (#17883478) Journal
                Mr. "5, Informative" said:
                >If I may quote his Wikipedia article

                You may... but if you're really going to tell us what Jack Thompson thinks, you should quote *Jack Thompson*, who said:

                >"wedding of all three functions of government into the Florida Bar, the 'official arm' of the
                >Florida Supreme Court, is violative of the bedrock constitutional requirement of the separation
                >powers and the 'checks and balances' which the separation guarantees."

                from the *same article*.

                To paraphrase: A branch of the government, especially a non-elected one, should *never* regulate ITSELF. That actually makes a good deal of sense, don't you think?

                I dislike Jack Thompson for his smearing, his wild accusations, and his consistent histrionic bullshit, which can be quoted voluminously (so why quote a paraphrase?), but he is still a lawyer, and he is a *competent* lawyer who understands exactly what's gone wrong with the law.

                His tragedy is that he uses that information to get his way, instead of as a point of reform. That's not unique amongst lawyers, because the system does not reward ethical behavior, it rewards whatever sticks to the wall. He knows what's wrong with this country's legal system, and I would welcome his disbarment because it might turn his crusade in the right direction: against that corrupted system.

                He isn't a nutjob. People IGNORE nutjobs. He's EFFECTIVE and that bothers us because it shows us how easily the legal system can be manipulated to punish unsubstantiated wrongs.

                --
                Toro
                • Re:i'm hoping... (Score:4, Insightful)

                  by caitsith01 (606117) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @11:48PM (#17885786) Journal
                  Mr "+5 Insightful" said:

                  To paraphrase: A branch of the government, especially a non-elected one, should *never* regulate ITSELF. That actually makes a good deal of sense, don't you think?
                  ...as opposed to the way that Congress sets its own ethical rules, and the President signs a little memorandum explaining what his version of the laws he signs off on is and purports to exercise direct legislative power under the guise of the 'war' on terror?

                  At some point each arm of government has a degree of autonomy. Separation of powers means that each arm may not usurp the others, NOT that each arm may not regulate its own activities insofar as they are within the scope of its power.

                  Oh, and "especially a non-elected one" - you mean one that actually has an incentive to set up favourable rules and regulations to ensure re-election..?
            • by Alsee (515537) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @06:37PM (#17883716) Homepage
              it appears that his statements may well be the result of something other than his ideology.

              I guess it's possible he has a brain tumor, but I think his Invisible Friend is a far more likely explanation.

              -
          • Re:i'm hoping... (Score:5, Informative)

            by Shads (4567) <shadus@shaSTRAWdus.org minus berry> on Sunday February 04, 2007 @02:07PM (#17882048) Homepage Journal
            He won't get disbarred unfortunately. That man has been to more ethics hearings and such than most attorneys every go to.

            Check out his entry on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorn ey) [wikipedia.org] crazy shit... Janet Reno, Two Live Crew, Madonna, Time Warner, Howard Stern, dozens of companies, and even the florida bar... he has a long and colorful history and has had several visits with the florida bar people to consider disbarment. They really don't like him much.
            • Re:i'm hoping... (Score:5, Interesting)

              by NormalVisual (565491) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @05:31PM (#17883346)
              He won't get disbarred unfortunately

              The difference is that he's before the FL Supreme Court now, the same people that just two months ago fired a renegade district judge for egregious behavior when no one else would. They don't seem to tolerate such misbehavior very much, especially when presented with a record like Thompson's. Here's hoping he's forced to find an alternate career. :-D
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by Tim C (15259)
          I assume you're trying to make a pun, but I don't think dismemberment [cambridge.org] means what you think it does. While the definition doesn't call for it, the word certainly has (for me at least) connotations of a gruesome death.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by bladesjester (774793)
          Given the arteries and veins that run through your appendages, unless the bleeding was stopped, he would indeed die. Furthermore, even if the bleeding were stopped, it would be possible to die from pain and shock.
    • by rbochan (827946) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @10:06AM (#17880768) Homepage
      I'm hoping he gets a cameo as a corpse in the next GTA release.

    • There's a violent solution. You must be a video game player.
      • Re: I'm hoping... (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Sj0 (472011) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @02:22PM (#17882120) Homepage Journal
        What are you talking about? He pressed a button. There's nothing violent about pressing a button.

        NOW, sending tens of thousands of troops to a foreign country in a war of aggression and occupation and subjugation which results in 40,000 civilian casualties. THAT is violent.

        But I guess context is a silly thing. We don't need that.
        • by soft_guy (534437)

          What are you talking about? He pressed a button. There's nothing violent about pressing a button.
          What if the button launches a missile that actually kills people? How is the act of pushing a button different from the act of pulling a trigger?
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by oSand (880494)
      No, 'disbarment'. When they remove the rod that is up your ass.
  • Department (Score:5, Funny)

    by agent dero (680753) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @06:53AM (#17880134) Homepage
    "disbarment-we-can-only-hope"

    Come on, let's try not to show such a bias here on slashd...oh, wha? That Jack Thompson?

    I wonder if tarring and featherings are allowed in the florida legal system... Seriously though, isn't this a textbook case of "people getting what they deserve?"
    • Re:Department (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Maestro4k (707634) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @07:52AM (#17880308) Journal

      Seriously though, isn't this a textbook case of "people getting what they deserve?"

      Definitely, but given his history [wikipedia.org] he'll probably sue the Florida Bar (again).

      • Re:Department (Score:5, Insightful)

        by BakaHoushi (786009) <Goss.SeanNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday February 04, 2007 @09:25AM (#17880632) Homepage
        --What the FUCK?

        So, let me get this straight. He sues the Florida Bar Association because he basically says its an evil communist terrorist organization planning to turn everyone gay, and that it's blatantly disregarding the Constitution (Please note: I exaggerate his wording, but either way, it's full of shit) and destroying America.

        So he settles for $20,000 out of court. "You're destroying America! Stop it now!" "How about we just give you some money?" "That's fine, too!"

        Damn, this guy is the ultimate sleezeball. If you ask me. Jack Thompson is a shining example of everything wrong with America these days (bigoted, sue-happy, uninformed but with LOUD AND STRONG OPINIONS).
        • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

          by oSand (880494)
          "If you ask me. Jack Thompson is a shining example of everything wrong with America these days (bigoted, sue-happy, uninformed but with LOUD AND STRONG OPINIONS)." These days? Just how long have you been alive?
        • Wrong with America (Score:3, Interesting)

          by Khammurabi (962376)

          Damn, this guy is the ultimate sleezeball. If you ask me. Jack Thompson is a shining example of everything wrong with America these days (bigoted, sue-happy, uninformed but with LOUD AND STRONG OPINIONS).

          While clearly an idiot, the fact that people like Jack Thompson still exist in America at least gives me some comfort that free speech is not being infringed on. It gives me solace that our democracy has not yet gone down an irreparable path.

          "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death

      • If I recall, he already is. I think Gamepolitics said he is.
    • by ettlz (639203)

      I wonder if tarring and featherings are allowed in the florida legal system...

      As I understand it, your U.S. consitution forbids the use of "cruel and unusual" punishments (emphasis mine). I believe tarring and feathering to be either cruel or unusual, but probably not both.

      IANAL.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Rodness (168429)
      Personally, I think his sentence should include cross dressing in a hooker's outfit, getting picked up by someone in a sports car, getting fucked, dumped, gunned down, and then run over.

      That'd be fantastic.
      • by aj50 (789101)
        On the other hand, that would go some way towards proving his point about violence in video games causing voilence in real life.
  • Too bad it's not happening in Texas.
  • by T0wner (552792) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @07:00AM (#17880162)
    "You're the guy who wants to give (Grand Theft Auto publisher) Take-Two my scalp. You chose to believe people that you knew were thieves and liars, and now you are their useful SLAPP Bar complainant... These are your corporate criminal buddies, Judge Moore. These are the folks with whom you made your bed, the folks whom your good friend said he could fix the case." JT and evidence never have gone hand in hand.
  • Finally justice. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Trendy.Ideology (1058410) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @07:00AM (#17880164)
    At least actions like these will (hopefully) help to dissuade people from just blindly attacking and blaming videogames for everything that goes wrong in thier lives... Holding this person accountable for his gross misconduct is the first step towards really making progress against all these anti-videogame warmongering dimwits. It's about time someone put thier foot down and said "No." to all these figureheads shooting thier mouth off without knowing what the hell they're talking about.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by BakaHoushi (786009)
      If you believe that this will help end people blaming other things on their problems, I've got this great Bridge in Brooklyn I'm itching to sell cheap.

      But seriously, before video games, it was rap music (in fact, it still sorta is), D&D, comic books, rock and roll, movies... And if you want to go back far enough in history, violence was caused by witches and Jews.

      Color me cynical, but as much as I'd love to stop seeing parents blame todays massive surge in teen violence (which, if I may be so bold, woul
    • by MWoody (222806) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @11:20AM (#17881058)
      As much as I'd like to believe that's true, that's not really what this mess is about. And it's important that all involved understand that, because if Thompson was guilty of nothing more than a wildly unpopular - among a certain group, anyway - and conservative worldview, then we'd have no hope of him being disbarred.

      No, what this is about is Jack Thompson, a crazy man practicing law. What exact view he presents, and whom he attempts to target with his wild accusations and lawsuits, is not the case here. He's a flat-out frothing-at-the-mouth smearing-shit-on-the-walls lunatic that is nevertheless certified to practice law in Florida solely because the last time they tried this he threatened them with a civil suit.

      It's important that the gaming community at large not gloat too much should this go the way I so sincerely hope it does - i.e, that Thompson is removed to a position in society where he can do minimal harm. If we start waving the flags and claiming victory over those who ignore the research and continue to claim that video game violence produces killers, then we risk making a nutjob a martyr, and watching three more spring up in his place. The sensible long-term response is, "regardless of my views on gaming and media censorship, it's good for ALL Americans that this man is out of the discussion, and we can continue to argue for our rights with those opponents who approach the issue with dignity, respect, and above all, sanity."

      That's not to say this news doesn't make me happy in my pants. Oh, it does. It VERY MUCH does.
      • by Fordiman (689627) <fordiman.gmail@com> on Sunday February 04, 2007 @12:34PM (#17881476) Homepage Journal
        But... but... can't we PRETEND that he's the example of the everyday neo-conservative uberchristian freak?? I mean, much of the US does that for mid-east terrorists, pretending they're examples of muslims. Why can't I assume Jack Thopson is the official spokesmoron of the religious right?
  • Meh... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by kitsunewarlock (971818) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @07:26AM (#17880226) Journal
    This just proves that Thompson is just an over-hyped nut-job idiot. The fact only 2/5 of these charges have anything to do with video games continues to discredit him in my eyes not only as a lawyer but as a nut who claims that "videogames are evil." Don't get me wrong, I think video-games are awesome, but cameo'ing him in webcomics and screaming his name at people who claim games are evil is like saying all hippies are like Manson, right? This guy's name isn't even worth mentioning in such cases...I feel bad that he has a slashdot article this late in the game even dedicated to him...I don't think its worth it...

    Its like saying "lunatic charged of murder cases thinks he should be able to kill people!" Who cares...in both cases its some stupid crazy loon getting what he deserves...
    • by BruceCage (882117) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @07:46AM (#17880290)
      In essence I agree with you, sometimes it's better to ignore silly people. But in this case I believe Jack Thompson has quite a following among certain groups of people, if we were to ignore them they might be able to do a lot more damage. Instead, pointing out their flawed reasoning or mistakes such as this and discussing it openly can benefit "the cause".
      • by MightyMartian (840721) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @12:45PM (#17881548) Journal
        Jack Thompson wouldn't have a following if 24 hour news stations and web sites didn't have an insatiable need for new stories every hour or two. This guy would, at best, be buried on page 9 between stories about the nine month old Husky puppy that saved her owners from carbon monoxide poisoning and the dangers of oversharpening steak knives.

        Jack Thompson is just a member of that breed of attention addicts who will do or say anything to get their faces in the paper. The news media happily obliges these guys, because they're outrageous and clearly demented. They're following is just as demented, and are probably psychologically not all that different from the kinds of guys who end up in cults. If Jack Thompson belongs anywhere, it's on the Jerry Springer Show fighting transexual hookers and eighty year old sex addicts.

    • Re:Meh... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Trendy.Ideology (1058410) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @08:10AM (#17880364)
      I don't think there's ever a time where it's not good to spread information.

      "I feel bad that he has a slashdot article this late in the game even dedicated to him...I don't think its worth it..."

      I rarely turn on the news, or read the paper. Slashdot is one of two "news" sites I read, the second being primarily video game based site. So if not for new sites like Slashdot, and other specialty news outlets, I very well may not have known about this extremely relevant piece of information.

      Over the last several years it's been a tad bit demoralizing to see logic and reason go out the window in the USA, in favor of a policy of scapegoating. Killed your brother? Blame violent music. Robbed a store? Blame GTA. 8 year old that swears like a sailor? Blame TV and the media at large.

      You're a bad parent? Don't worry, we can fix that. Here, blame these guys. Everyone's doing it, it's all the rage.

      If you're fat, it's McDonald's fault. If you can't read warning labels or use common sense, whoever made what hurt you, is to blame. Clearly they should have warned you that you were retarded before selling you a product that's designed to do damage, like a knife, or a product that's been served pipping hot for as long as anyone's been alive, like coffee. Clearly you needed to be told not to spill hot coffee on your lap.

      So taking a good look back over the last several years, and all the madness... It's refreshing to see a stand being taken against these trends. If left unchecked, people like this, and attitudes like these, will lead to the widespread disappearance of personal responsibility.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by grumbel (592662)
        ### If left unchecked, people like this, and attitudes like these, will lead to the widespread disappearance of personal responsibility.

        Jack Thompson might be a nutjob, that however doesn't mean that violence in video games and other media isn't a problem. You know, personal responsibility is a door that swings both ways, just because people should take care about themself or parents about their children doesn't mean that McDonalds, the cigarette industry or video game developers should get away with sellin
        • Re:Meh... (Score:5, Interesting)

          by aussie_a (778472) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @11:27AM (#17881110) Journal

          or the people who want everything totally free and unregulated, no matter the consequences,
          I have not seen anyone on this article put forth this opinion. The "problem" is, no-one has proven there are any consequences so people wanting everything totally free and unregulated no matter the consequences look exactly the same as those who want everything free barring no bad consequences.
        • Re:Meh... (Score:5, Insightful)

          by MightyMartian (840721) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @12:49PM (#17881574) Journal
          People have been enjoying violence for millennia. Cock fighting, boxing, bullfights and the Roman arena are all examples of it. I had not heard that any of this, no matter how distasteful, have lead to the horrors that nutjobs like Thompson seems to think video games do.

          Perhaps instead of blaming violent entertainment, we should be looking at why we so enjoy watching people get the shit beat out of them.
          • Perhaps instead of blaming violent entertainment, we should be looking at why we so enjoy watching people get the shit beat out of them.

            Well, you can start by learning about Evolutionary Psychology. Also, if really want to work your way back to the beginning of time, check out Paleopsychology. Either way, you'll find your answer...
        • by cgenman (325138)
          Anyone who says that The SIMS is smut that is destroying our children is simply adding noise to the discussion. It's the same thing as saying that marajuana is as bad as meth. Loud, uninformed shouting that everything is a problem does nothing to recognize or deal with the real issues.

          Jack Thompson's noise being silenced would be a great thing for the debate at large. More mature and reasoned voices can now (hopefully) be heard.
        • Re:Meh... (Score:4, Insightful)

          by xigxag (167441) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @02:56PM (#17882350)
          video game developers should get away with selling whatever they feel makes them the most money while totally ignoring the consequences. They have responsibilities as well.

          there is so very little room left for meaningful discussion of such topics.

          Such topics are discussed ENDLESSLY. Ad freaking nauseam [google.com]. The problem is this: One side has decided, arbitrarily, without any compelling evidence whatsoever, that videogames are harmful to children. The other side says, okay, before you go claiming I have "responsibilities" and abridging my rights to self-expression, show me your evidence that what I'm doing is harmful. And that's where things lie. The first side wants to pretend that the "evidence" step (and that whole little issue of parental responsibility) should be skipped over and we should move directly on to imposing restrictions. So when you say "discussion," if you mean "discussion of how far we should restrict video game manufacturers based upon a mere gut feeling that what they're doing is bad," that's not the discussion that the software industry wants to have.

          However, if forced, they will have the "let's enact a useless self-imposed 'rating' system to keep the think-of-the-children crowd at bay" discussion.
          • by grumbel (592662)
            ### The problem is this: One side has decided, arbitrarily, without any compelling evidence whatsoever, that video games are harmful to children.

            How about good old common sense? Do you let your children watch hardcore porn? Gruesome war documentaries? Horror movies? Now how exactly a child might react to all that depends on the age, his personality, his parents and a bunch of other things, but I think there is no question that it will react to such extreme stuff quite different then to the latest Disney mov
            • by Alsee (515537)
              How about good old common sense?

              How about not NOT claiming some right to pull out a gun and forcibly imprison people who refuse to comply to your claimed "common sense" when all scientific evidence indicates that that supposed "common sense" is wrong?

              And yes, expecting legislation does ultimately boil down to claiming a right to pull out a gun and forcibly imprison people - to have police pull out a gun on your behalf - to enforce that legislation.

              And yes, the scientific evidence does indicate it is wrong.
              • by grumbel (592662)
                ### How about not NOT claiming some right to pull out a gun and forcibly imprison people who refuse to comply to your claimed "common sense" when all scientific evidence indicates that that supposed "common sense" is wrong?

                Which scientific study claims that extreme violence has no influence on younger people? I don't know any. Set a bunch random five year old in front of Doom3 and you might pretty quickly be able to proof that there indeed is some influence. I am not claiming that that video game violence l
            • by FLEB (312391)
              This may be true, and common sense will get you to the point of "This should be studied." It may even help the question of "if" there should be regulation. However, it isn't enough to answer the finer points of "what", "why", and "how" regarding either the problem or the best solution. Without further scientific examination, the problem will only be solved crudely and ignorantly, groping in the dark on the word of hunches and assumptions.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          Jack Thompson might be a nutjob, that however doesn't mean that violence in video games and other media isn't a problem.

          The problem isn't that there's violence in video games. The problem is that violence is far more accepted than sex. I like violent games, but I also like boobs - given the choice, I might pick the violent stuff half the time, but there's really no market for that stuff that I can tell, and I blame the freaky christian right (same one that had an aneurysm over Janet Jackson's pixelated

        • by MMaestro (585010)
          I am not saying that video games should be banned, but its sad that there is so very little room left for meaningful discussion of such topics.

          I agree that there needs to be more meaningful discussion, but does the problem necessarily stem from the side of gamers and game developers? Ever since Doom 1 became the first posterchild for video game violence, the entire industry has been branded more or less as dangerous. When your products are branded as "murder simulators" its hard to convince the public anyt

          • But this isn't a problem with Thompson per se, it's a problem with a large segment of the public accepting what he says without applying any critical thought to it. Certainly Thompson's disbarment should serve as a very public indication that the guy was totally off-base, but that won't change the minds of people that don't know how to apply any kind of analysis to what they're told. For those people that support his point of view, successful action against him will be seen merely as a victory by the evil
            • by MMaestro (585010)
              it's a problem with a large segment of the public accepting what he says without applying any critical thought to it.

              Is that necessarily a problem with the public or a problem with the lack of "experts" on the topic? Outside of the video gaming world, Jack Thompson is the ONLY person the public simply hears when it comes to video games.

              When was the last time you heard Will Wright, CliffyB or John Carmack talk on CNN/BBC/Fox News about video games? What about Satoru Iwata or Reggie Fils-Aime (besides the

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by NaugaHunter (639364)

          I am not saying that video games should be banned, but its sad that there is so very little room left for meaningful discussion of such topics.

          Games have a ratings system, the same that movies do, and more than books do. Anyone can go to a library and read worse than you'll find in a game. Hell, have you read the so-called 'holy' book? Lots of violence there, not too mention the negative attitudes towards women in general.

          The only possible meaningful discussion is by psychologists and psychological r

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by grumbel (592662)
            ### It is not up to the government to interfere in what entertainment I can access

            If you are old enough the government has of course no right to interfere with what you can access, but why shouldn't it have some say about what the kid can have easy access to? In Germany selling movies or games to kids below the rated age is forbidden, this however neither limits your access nor does it stop the parents from buying the games for their kids, even if they aren't old enough. The regulation simply puts power whe
      • by aussie_a (778472)
        Well I had sex with your wife last night. I'm guessing telling you after you had just found out your father died would be a bad time to spread that information ;)
      • Re:Meh... (Score:5, Informative)

        by kinzillah (662884) <<douglas.price> <at> <mail.rit.edu>> on Sunday February 04, 2007 @12:44PM (#17881540)
        Sorry, but I feel it should be pointed out, that McDonald served that lady's coffee scalding hot. 180-190 degrees, which is enough to give you 3rd degree burns in 7 seconds or less. She was hospitalized for 8 days, and required skin grafts. Had McDonalds served their coffee at the normal serving temperature of around 150 degrees, she would have been in some pain for a day or so, probably needed to go to the hospital to get checked on, but that's about it. Why did McDonalds serve their coffee so hot? So they wouldn't have to brew a new batch so often.

        So yes, it's her fault it spilled. Is it her fault she got 3rd degree burns from it? No.
        • by phorm (591458)
          So they wouldn't have to brew a new batch so often

          Also, when your coffee is that hot, it quickly scalds most of your taste buds so you can't really taste the flavour. The caffeine is still there, which is what many want anyhow, but you can't taste the fact that the coffee is rather cheap and unpaletable (as far as coffee goes in general anyhow, I prefer mine with a generous dose of Irish Cream)
      • I don't think there's ever a time where it's not good to spread information.

        I think also that honest debate is always a good thing. The debate about the effects of video game violence deserves some serious discussion. Unfortunately it's people like Jack Thompson who reduce the debate to a Crossfire/Jerry Springer type yelling match that really hurts the voice of the side that has genuine concerns.

        My personal view is that those people who have trouble separating reality from fiction shouldn't play video

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          I don't want to search for it right now, but someone basically said something earlier in the thread, that implied that there needs to be some kinda of conscientious effort to better moderate videogames, even if Thompson is wrong.

          And to this I say "ESRB". It's there for a reason.

          More on topic, a response to your post;

          I agree with pretty much everything you've said here. The ESRB exists to guide parents on what little Jimmy should and should not be playing. As one of my two jobs is working at a store
  • Calm down... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by optkk (907995)
    He's not been put away yet. And while we're at it, let's not hope for dismemberment, lets hope, that he gets to share a cell with somebody that was put away for a crime that was somehow linked (although incorrectly) to video game violence.
  • by NeuroManson (214835) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @08:35AM (#17880446) Homepage
    Up here, there's a nice art deco building, started as a supermarket, then up until a couple of years ago, existed as a video game arcade. Now it's a courthouse. The irony would be mind boggling.

  • by giafly (926567) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @10:28AM (#17880826)

    "Moral Kombat" - comic 5 Jan 2007 [penny-arcade.com].

    "Obviously he [Jack Thompson] didn't mention anything to the police department about his "Modest proposal" in which he asks that a game be developed in which players urinate on peoples brains and murder kids who work at game stores. He never mentions that he offered ten thousand dollars to charity and then said it was just "satire." He doesn't tell the police chief that Jerry and I just donated the ten thousand for him. I wonder why he left that part out?" - Penny Arcade [penny-arcade.com]

    Tshirts > Gaming > I Hate Jack Thompson...
    Virtually every living creature hates Jack Thompson, professional scold and slavering ambulance chaser. Squirrels, policemen, sea captains, fruit bats... - black t-shirt [thinkgeek.com]
  • To echo the comments of the Penny Arcade artists (http://www.penny-arcade.com/2005/10/19):

    Jack Thompson, in my opinion, is an idiot who does a lot to hurt his own cause. If he gets silenced by being disbarred, it may actually be a net negative for the video game playing public, because he might be replaced by someone who is actually good at convincing people that video games are somehow the root cause of school killings.
    • by Wordsmith (183749)
      1) Dis-barring him wouldn't shut him up)
      2) It's not like it's a staffed position and they have to find a new scare-monger if he leaves; a more effective JT could show up at any time whether the current one's around or not
      3) Someone smarter would be just fine - they could be debated on the merits of their arguments.
  • The "videogames-are-evil" crowd will still be around. Disbarring JT just leads to the likelihood that they'll hire someone competent the next time there's a litigious situation involving video games.

    Seriously, why would you want to get rid of an opponent that is such a raving loon that he ends up making you look good every time out?
    • by Sigma 7 (266129)

      Seriously, why would you want to get rid of an opponent that is such a raving loon that he ends up making you look good every time out?
      As you know, this opponent has recently tried to sue companies for releasing games (e.g. Bully). This procedure, known as vexatious litigation, ties up resources in court which may or may not be recoverable.
    • by geekoid (135745)
      that they tried to get someone competent and ended up with JT?

      Not all lawyers are media whores like JT, and the few that our are smart enough to stay away from cases like these.
  • Write. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by geekoid (135745)
    If you know of an example of his misconduct, and can offer evidence, send it to the Florida Bar.

  • by merc (115854) <slashdot@upt.org> on Sunday February 04, 2007 @02:13PM (#17882074) Homepage
    This guy didn't just wake up one morning and get hit by an Atari 2600 being thrown out of a window. What happened that made him such an ardent opponent of gaming?

    John Walsh from "America's Most Wanted" is motivated by what happened to his son, what happened to Thompson?
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by MightyMartian (840721)

      This guy didn't just wake up one morning and get hit by an Atari 2600 being thrown out of a window. What happened that made him such an ardent opponent of gaming?

      John Walsh from "America's Most Wanted" is motivated by what happened to his son, what happened to Thompson?

      He's an attention addict, who keeps getting his fix because everyone keeps on paying attention to him long after it's clear he's an immoral lunatic.

  • The only reason the Jack Thompsons of our society are even given credibility in the first place is because of all these folks who aren't doing such a hot job in raising their offspring. The kids start acting up but the parents don't really want to take any blame in this, so the Jack Thompsons of this world provide them with a convienient scapegoat; doesn't matter whether that scapegoat happens to be Unreal Tournament, Marilyn Manson or MySpace - just as long as it's anything to give the parents something (
  • by Hannah E. Davis (870669) on Sunday February 04, 2007 @04:24PM (#17882980) Journal
    Unlike many, I don't actually hate Jack Thompson -- if anything, I pity him. He's trying to do what he thinks is right, even at the cost of his own career, and I gotta admit that that takes balls. However, I do strongly disagree with his methods. Writing caustic, barely-coherent letters to judges and insulting young children on the internet is typically not an advised course of action when you're trying to effect social or legal change. His conduct has been undeniably unprofessional, and for this reason, I hope he gets disbarred.

    One thing that we should keep in mind, however, is that crazy old coots like Jack typically don't vanish the moment they lose their jobs (see: Fred Phelps). He'll have a lot more free time all of a sudden, and I expect he will continue to portray himself as a martyr -- a man who sacrificed his own career to protect America's children (and all that drivel). Sure, he won't be as dangerous when he can't blindly sue anything that moves, but I expect that the media will still view him as the resident expert on video game violence.
  • You don't need a license in order to represent anyone, as anyone can be your lawyer, given enough knowledge of any situation and the related laws.

    Only a fool represents himself. Jack Thompson will more than likely continue practicing, no matter where he is.
  • Again? (Score:2, Troll)

    by edunbar93 (141167)
    Thompson faces the possibility of disciplinary action up to and including disbarment.

    So this is what, the 6th state he'll be disbarred in? I suppose he'll just have to move to Nevada now.

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