Slashdot is powered by your submissions, so send in your scoop

 



Forgot your password?
typodupeerror
×
The Courts Government The Internet News

MySpace Sued by Families of Online Predator Victims 433

MySpace is facing more lawsuits, as the victims of sexual predators have filed suit against the social site and parent corporation News Corp. In total, four families from across the U.S. have joined together after their underage daughters were abused by men they met via MySpace. MySpace has responded to past allegations by putting in place educational efforts and partnerships with law enforcement. The company is also developing technologies to allow parents to have some measure of access to their child's account. From the article: "'In our view, MySpace waited entirely too long to attempt to institute meaningful security measures that effectively increase the safety of their underage users,' said Jason A. Itkin, an Arnold & Itkin lawyer. The families are seeking monetary damages 'in the millions of dollars,' Itkin said."
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.

MySpace Sued by Families of Online Predator Victims

Comments Filter:
  • Trust or tryst? :) (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Quiet_Desperation ( 858215 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @04:42PM (#17686704)
    Probably not the same situation (I don't know if the girls knew the guys were older men), but when I was 17, I had a short affair with a 34 year old woman (a neighbor two houses down). I had a near perfect relationship with my parents, but do you think I told them about it? To this day they don't know.
  • Craziness.. (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19, 2007 @04:48PM (#17686840)
    There's actually a gigantic billboard along the highway a few miles from my home. It's an ad from an attorney looking for victims of internet predators.
    I always wondered who they'd sue - now I know.
  • by KillerCow ( 213458 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @04:55PM (#17686980)
    They actually might have a claim under the Attractive Nuisance Doctrine [wikipedia.org].

    Under the attractive nuisance doctrine of the law of torts, a landowner may be held liable for injuries to children trespassing on the land if the injury is caused by a hazardous object or condition on the land that is likely to attract children, who are unable to appreciate the risk posed by the object or condition. The doctrine has been applied to hold landowners liable for injuries caused by abandoned cars, piles of lumber or sand, trampolines, and swimming pools. However, it can be applied to virtually anything on the property of the landowner.


    However, putting up a warning about the dangers of meeting strangers from on-line, or requiring parent's permission (which I believe is required by another US law) to join the site would exempt MySpace from accountability.

    A playground analogy would apply in defence of the claim. If a child plays unattended on a playground and is abducted, the operator of the playground likely wouldn't be held accountable. [Or is unattended in a mall or place of business or whatever... the operator did not have a duty of care to protect the children from external threats].

    It's a question of law and deserves to be decided. Precedent has to be determined somehow.

    IANAL.
  • by krotkruton ( 967718 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @05:02PM (#17687154)
    It's a question of law and deserves to be decided. Precedent has to be determined somehow.

    That's a really good point. As much as it disgusts me to see parents blaming others or expecting other people to protect their children, a precedent has to be set at some point. Hopefully this case will find in favor of MySpace, so maybe (crosses fingers) we won't have to hear the people with the largest mouths but least common sense bitch so much.
  • by cascadingstylesheet ( 140919 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @05:08PM (#17687244) Journal
    Re: Where are the parents in these situations

    Well, they've been reading Slashdot. They took our advice and didn't monitor their children's internet use, because we know that monitoring is fascist.
  • Re:Shoot the EULA! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by wesleynixon ( 796574 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @05:27PM (#17687618)
    Does this mean that if MySpace loses, a precedent may finally be set that would invalidate click-through EULAs?
  • by delt0r ( 999393 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @05:28PM (#17687650)
    I'm thinking that perhaps they didn't go out looking for someone that will abuse them. That just who they ended up with this time. And what about all the normal girls that end up in these type of relationships? And anyway what is normal.

    Good people can come from very dark family backgrounds. Bad kids can come from loving families.
  • by Tanktalus ( 794810 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @05:45PM (#17687928) Journal

    Speaking as a 33 year old who remembers being 17 and thinking the 15 year old girls I knew were smart enough not to meet up with someone on the internet like that, I'd have to wonder about that. It's very easy for teens to feel all alone in the world as if they were the only ones with problems, when they spend all day at school with other teens feeling the same way. Because most of these teens are skilled at putting on social masks to hide their own perceived pain, some teens never see the pain their friends think they're in.

    A 15-year-old girl, wishing she had more attention from her dad, meets a male stranger from the internet to fulfill that piece missing from her life. Not really that farfetched. Do I think most girls at 15 would do this? Definitely not. Many? Still no. But I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that this would be a logical outcome for not-insignificant numbers of kids.

    At 15, or even 17, your brain isn't even finished growing yet. Your ability to predict the results of your actions is not as high as it will be at 25 or so when your brain does finish growing (even then, some people are better at it than others - you may be better at it at 17 than some at 25 - but they're as good as they're going to get, and you still have growth left). So a girl, looking for some male relationship, hoping for the best, meets up with some guy she doesn't really even know from the internet. Really, that's almost to be expected - if it weren't for the fact that it's the missing male leadership in her life was part of the cause of her actions, her dad might have expected it.

    That's not to speak negatively of any other part of your comment - just the part that seemed to imply that every 15 year old girl you know is smart enough to avoid this (you probably don't know them behind their mask that well, nor could you), and by implication, that all 15 year old girls should be smart enough to avoid it.

  • by xero314 ( 722674 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @06:00PM (#17688168)
    I hope the state brings charges against the parents for neglect, but thanks them for pointing it out. I think removal of their children and a couple (or more) years in prison would do it.
  • by cayenne8 ( 626475 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @06:01PM (#17688184) Homepage Journal
    "While I agree with you regarding everything else, having a gun in your household -- let alone in the hands of a child -- can hardly be considered responsible."

    Please re-read what I originally posted. While I knew where the gun was....I only touched it that one time without supervision of my parents, and after the perceived danger was over, I dropped the clip, and took the chambered shell out, and put it back in the clip....clip back in gun, gun back hidden in my parent's room, and PROMPTLY called my parents and told them.

    Maybe where you live it is a bit different, but, in the south in the US, MANY homes have guns in them, we grow up with them...protection, hunting, etc. My Mom and Dad put the 'fear of God' in me if I touched it for any other reason than if my life was in danger. He also took me out with him to target practice, so I knew how to properly use the gun, and also to respect that this thing could be dangerous, and was NOT a toy.

    What I was alluding to in my OP, was my parents taught me to be responsible at a young age...

    I had to come home alone every day after school, and was left alone every day during the summers when I was old enough to be on my own (12-13 I think). When I came home from school...Mom taught me some cooking basics when I was old enough. It might start by me putting in frozen veggies into the crock pot that she'd started that morning, and as I got old enough to use the stove, knives..etc...I had more responsibilities to help with the family meal. It is one of the reasons I'm a pretty decent cook to this day.

    All I'm getting to is, that even if parents both work (like mine), they could in the past raise a child that could be trusted and had responsibility. I'm asking why parents today cannot seem to do that same.

    I'm trying to remember how old I was when the gun incident happened...I must have been in like the 5th or 6th grade...so was about 12 or 13...maybe a bit later but, around that time.

  • by delt0r ( 999393 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @06:02PM (#17688206)

    Normal is meeting somebody at school and bringing him home to meet your parents before dating him. Normal is spending time with your parents and immediate family instead of on MySpace. But it's not the girl's fault- she wouldn't be spending time on MySpace if her immediate family had paid the proper attention to begin with.

    That a nice box to put people in. But its just not true. The whole equation for life does not work. Its not good parenting*time=good children. Life does not work like that.

    Making the claim that if the parents spend time with there children then this sort of thing won't happen is simply not true. It helps to be sure, but does not exclude negative outcomes. I would suggest some time at a volunteer group and you will quickly get get used to the idea that victims(whatever that may be) come from every background.
  • by DerekLyons ( 302214 ) <fairwater@gmaLISPil.com minus language> on Friday January 19, 2007 @06:43PM (#17688854) Homepage
    Slashdot has no standards, it's the standards of the individual posters that are represented. I doubt the mentioned comments were by the same people.

    It's the collective standards of the posters and moderators at issue - and after years of reading Slashdot, the trend is plainly visible. Slashdot collectively insists that parents are responsible when something happens - but are equally adamant that monitoring tools that would aid the parents in discharging their responsibilities are henious crimes against the childrens 'rights'. These two positions are mutually incompatible.
  • Stupidity Law (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Ender77 ( 551980 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @08:19PM (#17689816)
    I would like to see a law passed that allow companies to countersue stupid parents who blame other people for their lack of parenting skills.
  • by pnuema ( 523776 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @08:20PM (#17689836)
    Not a single thread supporting the lawsuit modded +3. Mostly comments from people who don't have kids talking about things they have no experience with (i.e. raising children), and smug comments from people who do. I don't care about my karma, so here goes:

    1. It is impossible to monitor your kids all of the time. We were all kids once, and we know it is true. This has nothing to do with parenting skill.

    2. MySpace has been operating for quite a while knowing full well that child predators are active on their site.

    3. MySpace could certainly have done more to validate identity (registration through snail mail?), but that would have eaten into profits.

    4. MySpace has made a pile of money (mainly by being bought) while operating in this manner.

    So, from where I sit, MySpace has made a pile of money by being user-friendly to child predators. Why shouldn't they get sued again?

  • by BlazeMiskulin ( 1043328 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:13PM (#17690298)
    I haven't read through all of the responses, but two fairly distinct views are coming out: Parents need to monitor their children to protect them from predators, and parents need to teach their children to protect them from predators. And there's lots of discussion about what is and is not a "good parent".

    I'd just like to make a few points:

    • If good parenting requires monitoring the teen's activities online, doesn't it also follow that the parents should hover around the mall, the park, the school, the coffee shop, and the mini-golf course?
    • With the exception of the one girl who was drugged, there's no mention of what constituted the "sexual assault". These girls all went willingly to a meeting with these men, there is no mention of coercion, force, or gross deception.
    • How long had these girls been talking with these men? Could it be that they went to meet them specifically for "romantic" encounters, knowing full well the age differences?


    Anyone who believes that 14-16 year old girls don't go looking for sexual encounters--even with significantly older men--has never dealt with teen-age girls. This isn't as one-sided as people want to make it out to be. These men weren't forcing the girls to talk to them. Other than the one young man lying that he was still in high school (he's only 19, so that's not a huge lie), we have no evidence that there was any deception going on at all. The guy who drugged the girl can definitely be considered a predator, but it's fully possible that the other guys simply got involved in a 2-way relationship which progressed to a point where both parties were willing to meet and take it further.

    I'm not saying that this was the smartest move on anyone's part, but considering that--depending on the states these people are in--the sexual encounters could have been entirely consensual and legal, the situation needs to be considered from other perspectives.

    Having spent many years teaching high school students, I'm quite certain that there's more to the story than is being presented in the article or the law suits.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19, 2007 @11:31PM (#17691310)
    Here here.. I grew up in the Midwest, but similar story. My dad spanked me about 3 times that I remember, and that was all it took. When my dad spanked you, you didn't sit down for half an hour. Once when I was about 14 I took a swing at him and he popped me back - nothing very hard, but hard enough to remind me that he was my elder. Respect for your elders was taught resoundingly, and today it still holds deep.

    I think the lack of discipline is tied together with the "buddy mentality" that too many parents seem to have nowadays. They're too busy trying to be friends with their children and dropping the ball on the governing side. Parents, I think, are often afraid to be the boss. I've seen it firsthand. My son's biological father almost killed him when he was 6 months old (and subsequently went to prison for years plus is forbidden from having any contact with him), and my wife didn't want to do anything to hurt him after that. When she and I met, he was 4 years old and a holy terror. He constantly terrorized kids at school, he was violent towards her, talked about using knives on people, and anytime she tried to correct him he flew off the handle like the Tasmanian Devil. He's now 7, and the change between now and then is phenomenal. We still have occasional lapses of back-talking and acting up in school - but now it's more akin to goof ball showboating instead of violent rages. Establishing firm boundaries of what is and what is not acceptable behavior - and having a father to model - went a long way towards helping him to get himself back on track.
  • by m3talocasnica ( 247894 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @08:06AM (#17693642)
    I totally agree. MySpace shouldn't be held responsible for its user's misconduct. Actually, the news article states clearly:

    "That lawsuit, pending in a Texas state court, claims the 19-year-old lied about being a senior in high school to gain her trust and phone number."
    How can a social networking site prevent malicious users from lying about their identity? The answer is simple: it can't.

    Anyway, same things could happen via other Internet communications services, like instant messaging and IRC networks. Those parents should rather take some parenting lessons instead of suing MySpace.

Living on Earth may be expensive, but it includes an annual free trip around the Sun.

Working...