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US Visitor Fingerprints To Be (Perhaps) Stored by FBI 503

stair69 writes "Since 2004 many visitors to the United States have had 2 fingerprints taken under the US-VISIT scheme. Now there are new plans to extend this scheme — under the proposal all 10 fingerprints will be taken, and they will be stored permanently on the FBI's criminal fingerprint database. The fingerprints will also be made available to police forces in other countries. The scheme is due to be introduced by the end of 2008, but it will be trialled in 10 of the bigger airports initially." Of course, it is worth pointing out that given the recent change in Congress, I suspect that a number of countries will get a "bye" on this round,
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US Visitor Fingerprints To Be (Perhaps) Stored by FBI

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 08, 2007 @12:49PM (#17509676)
    I am a US citizen.

    (or am I just fooling myself)

    Fricken scary.

  • by Anon-Admin ( 443764 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:08PM (#17509980) Journal
    Just use a belt sander with 80 grit paper on it.

    Turn it on, place fingers on sand paper, hold as long as you can stand it. Repeat until prints are gone. No problem.

    Finger prints are only 1/32 of an in deep. It is dead skin and serves no real purpose. I started sanding mine off several years ago when the state went to mandatory fingerprinting to get a drivers license. It is easy and the look on the persons face when you say "I don't have finger prints!" is just something else. :)

    The other thing you can do is to cover the tips of your fingers with super glue. It works quite well and does not come off for some time.

  • by new death barbie ( 240326 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:16PM (#17510144)
    "I don't have finger prints!"


    So... any time there's no fingerprints at the crime scene... that was YOU?
  • by Anon-Admin ( 443764 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:16PM (#17510150) Journal
    Na, we are already there. Think Microsoft!

    Is there a Microsoft mouse under you right hand?
    Is the monitor in front of your head have a Microsoft logo on it?

    What about his name!

    The real name of "the" Bill Gates is William Henry Gates III.
    Nowadays he is known as Bill Gates (III), where "III" means the
    order of third (3rd.)

    By converting the letters of his current name to the ASCII-values
    and adding his (III), you get the following:

    B 66
    I 73
    L 76
    L 76
    G 71
    A 65
    T 84
    E 69
    S 83
    + 3
    --------------
          666 !!
    or

    M S - D O S 6 . 2 1
    77+83+45+68+79+83+32+54+46+50+49 = 666

    W I N D O W S 9 5
    87+73+78+68+79+87+83+57+53+1 = 666

    How about the number of letters in

    Microsoft Windows XP

    It comes to 18, or 6+6+6

    The same with NT

    You are already in bead with the beast! It is time to repent and reject the beast. Come join the true believers and find how Linux can set you free.

    LoL
  • by kfg ( 145172 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:18PM (#17510166)
    Nonsense. Some of us are the consumed.

    KFG
  • by malraid ( 592373 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:30PM (#17510386)
    I'll send a letter to my senator asking him to ban sanding paper. Only terrorists and kidie-porn freaks use sanding paper. Would someone please think of the children?
  • by BSAtHome ( 455370 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:33PM (#17510442)
    > I have the hunch that the next fashion fad for privacy concerned people will be gloves.

    Surely, a) your sweat in the golve can combust, and b) your fingers are then a concealed weapon. Conclusion: gloves are for terrorists only and are to be banned.

    Go figure...
  • by shaneh0 ( 624603 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:38PM (#17510548)
    "computers can nowadays compare fingerprints with ease"

    Yes, but since it has to display the photo of the person in order to properly do the print match, won't we get to a point where we can't go any faster? I mean, the human eye is only so fast. The whole notion of finger-print matching just wouldn't feel right if you don't see 10,000 faces stream across the screen before finally finding the match.

  • by ghostlibrary ( 450718 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:46PM (#17510682) Homepage Journal
    In some ways, this shift from 2 fingerprintes taken, to all 10, is a relief. Previously, terrorists were forced to only use 4 fingers on each hand, in a sort of 'pinky out' high tea fashion (although with their pointing finger, not pinky). This resulted in hazardous RSI conditions which crippled the more active terrorists. For those skeptics reading this, try just hacking into an NSA account, picking a lock, or even spinning a safe combination dial without using your pointing fingers.

    Feel the pain? There you have it, RSI. Now, under this new scheme, at least the terrorists can relax and use all 10 fingers, knowing there is no more false security in those missing 8 records to enjoy. And the US will benefit-- I anticipate that there will be no more class action suits against the US to deal with the former health crisis due to 2-finger exception techniques.

    That said, as a taxpayer I assume the gathering of all 10, instead of just 2, will only incur a moderate 5x cost in upgrading airports and training personel. A bargain!
  • gloves (Score:2, Funny)

    by acaeus ( 989603 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:54PM (#17510814)
    just wear gloves and when asked say it's a religious thing. It works at airport security...
  • by Joebert ( 946227 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @02:02PM (#17510916) Homepage
    I just pick my nose in front of the female guard & pretend to hide it, works every time.
  • by hotdiggitydawg ( 881316 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @02:09PM (#17511044)
    ...but I couldn't eat a whole one. At least, not without some fava beans and a nice chianti to wash it down...
  • by catdevnull ( 531283 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @02:47PM (#17511638)
    All these paranoid comments about privacy and Big Brother assumes that the government is actually organized enough to actually do handle all this information. I'd be more worried about the profiteers coming forward to "contract" the management of all this than the government itself.

    In the mean time, just relax and do what I do: dip your finger tips into sulfuric acid. It doesn't seem tohave anny negattttive effectsss at alll.
  • by shaneh0 ( 624603 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @03:18PM (#17512126)
    I'm pretty confident in my post. You should check my references [wikipedia.org] for this.
  • by jrockway ( 229604 ) <jon-nospam@jrock.us> on Monday January 08, 2007 @03:44PM (#17512520) Homepage Journal
    Exactly. If you have nothing to hide, why worry? In other news, all walls will be removed from your house and replaced with glass, and security cameras that monitor your every movie will be installed. If you're not doing anything wrong, you should be happy to have this opportunity to show the world!
  • by PinkPanther ( 42194 ) on Monday January 08, 2007 @04:04PM (#17512838)
    You better not cozy up to Canada. Everyone knows that's how the terrorists get in. I bet they'd be crawling through the pipeline and everything!

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