Wikipedia Blocks Qatar [Updated] 204
GrumpySimon writes "Wikipedia has blocked the entire country of Qatar from editing pages. Whilst the ban is due to spam-abuse coming from the IP address in question, the fact that this belongs to the country's sole high-speed internet provider has the unintended consequence of stopping Qataris from editing the wiki. The ban has raised concerns about impartiality — the majority of Al Jazeera journalists operate out of Qatar, for example. This raises a number of issues about internet connectivity in small countries — what other internet bottlenecks like this exist?" Update: 01/02 13:32 GMT by Z : Jim Wales wrote in the comments that the story is 'completely false'. Either way, the ban has been lifted and anonymous editing is once again possible from Qatar.
Re:IPv6 (Score:2, Interesting)
Correction (Score:3, Interesting)
Wikipedia also blocks a Canadian School District (Score:4, Interesting)
yes it is because of vandals (at other schools) but still I cannot do anything and Im not trying to vandalize but only add good content
Re:It's actually a blow AGAINST censorship (Score:3, Interesting)
In the case of Saudi Arabia, that's exactly what happens. The whole country is behind a proxy server (or was, last I heard) and it's difficult to block a single abusive user without locking out everyone. That was my first thought reading this story, but Qatar has a vastly different government than Saudi Arabia does and there seem to be the usual accuracy problems with the summary here so I'll decline to speculate.
Regarding others blocked, there's Slashdot/Bahrain (Score:4, Interesting)
Not in support of censorship (Score:0, Interesting)
You can get spoon fed from the government, or the terrorists. Great choice.
Wikipedia solved the issue by requiring a non-anonymous login to edit. They may need a slightly more nuanced version. We in the west often view this as a great way to hold people accountable for what they write. Unfortunately, so do governments that are, well, not that interested in little things such as free speech, freedom of expression, and related terrible western-imperial concepts. Thus such governments tend to crack down on their people who have the temerity to post what they see and think. Imagine what would happen to the governments if people actually started to freely comment and criticize the government. Heaven forbid!
This is why the bloggers in Egypt have been arrested. This is why bloggers across the arab/islamic world have been threatened when they dare criticize the existing order, policies, governments. This is why media organizations tow the government line so hard. This is why we need to come up with a mechanism to enable them to post real content without fear of retribution. Censorship has many forms. Physical intimidation is practiced regularly by the governments in their corner of the world. Arrests, detention, spying all in the name of preservation of the repressive governments.
We need to figure out how to help them get the tools of communication without enabling others to take that away from them. Wikipedia is one such tool. We need others.
Qatar and many other networks segments (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:This story is completely false. (Score:3, Interesting)
You wrote on the linked Wikipedia page:
A user who claims to be from Qatar has added, below your comment:
Apparently the block was reverted, as you say, in under 12 hours. Was the block originally put in place as a one-month block or not? If so, then saying it was "temporarily blocked for less than 12 hours" omits an important detail, and saying "a block of an entire nation would go absolutely against Wikipedia policy... and would never ever be undertaken lightly, nor without extensive attempts at direct negotiation" is misleading (since, whether it is against policy or not, it happened, and was done apparently without attempts at negotiation).
Also, can you comment on whether account creation was unblocked before or after the ban was widely reported? If Slashdot got the story wrong, we will surely update it. But changing the ban after reports surface, and then saying "Move along, nothing to see," is not the same thing.
(For the record, an ISP that routes every user through one IP can expect to have this kind of thing happen. I hope this encourages Qatar and/or its ISP to get a better outgoing-IP policy. If Slashdot had repeated anonymous abuse from this IP we would probably ban it from anonymous posting, and later probably unban it, in pretty much exactly the way Wikipedia seems to have done.)
Re:This story is completely false. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:This story is completely false. In resply to ja (Score:2, Interesting)
You can view the block log [wikipedia.org] (though the block log descritpison do not always accurately describe the type of block. You can see the contribution history [wikipedia.org] for these anonymous editors. From a cursory glance at this information, it's hard to imagine an admin would find a one month block justifiable (even if the admin did not know it was an entire country). One month definitely looks like an over-reaction.
However, we've seen more and more problems with admins lately on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is no longer relying on volunteers, but more and more relying on paid staff, working in shifts aroudn the clock. Often times these admins show no interest in building an encyclopedia, but do want to excercise their uninformed editorial slant whenever possible. Consequently, we have admins blocking valuable editors because they hold the wrong point-of-view (i.e., not the point-of -view of the admin).. There are still many volunteers working on Wikipedia, but things don't work as smoothly as they used to.
The issue of proxy servers is also just per speculation. The term open proxy is bandied about among Wikipedia admins as if it's some sort of evil. I'm not saying there aren't problems with proxy servers, but whenever there's a problem they cry "open proxy server", whether they have any evidence of that or not. Clearly, there's no information that anyone has presented that shows us that Qatar has an open proxy server. We don't even know if they use a proxy server at all. However, from what we're hearing it looks like Qtel uses an RFC 1918 private network to conserve IP addresses. This is a very common internet standard. It's something admins on any wiki should be aware of (they're not on wikipedia). And it's something to be careful about when encountering very large private networks (like the nation of Qatar).. Wikipedia administrators seem very resistant to learning about internet technology. They just react in knee-jerk fashion to any threat (no matter how small). I think the wiki software and the wiki concept are both good ideas. Unfortunately Wikimedia and it's related projects have lost sight of that project.