FTC To Investigate 'Viral Marketing' Practices 299
mcflaherty writes "The Federal Trade Commission has stated that it is going to investigate the use of 'Viral Marketing' by corporations. This is the type of advertising that seeks to start a word of mouth campaign for the product via consumers themselves. Previously, consumers themselves set the buzz. But lately advertisement firms are stepping up to the plate themselves, seeding the market with buzz that looks independent of the company, but is in fact funded by them. The crew at Penny Arcade contend that corporate generated buzz is not Viral Marketing, and perhaps Guerrilla Marketing would be a more apt term. Either way, it appears to be a profitable advertising model."
How low can they go? (Score:5, Insightful)
Of course it is, it exploits people's inherent trust for their friends' judgement: "if X says this and X is a nice guy, then X must be true". Only if X is paid by a corporation to spew out nice stuff about some product, it basically wrecks that basic principle of human communication.
Fitting story (Score:5, Insightful)
See particularly this portion [slashdot.org] of the comments/story...
Re:Astroturfing (Score:4, Insightful)
Busted. Nailed. Snagged. As many of you have figured out (maybe our speech was a little too funky fresh???), Peter isn't a real hip-hop maven and this site was actually developed by Sony. Guess we were trying to be just a little too clever. From this point forward, we will just stick to making cool products, and use this site to give you nothing but the facts on the PSP.
Sony Computer Entertainment America
Well, I must say, as much as I despite Sony these days, it takes balls to come clean and coldly admit to trying to con people, instead of simply pulling the plug on the site. Hats off Sony, for once you did the right thing.
When did it become illegal? (Score:3, Insightful)
If they want to investigate deceptive advertising that has cost Americans billions of dollars, then I would prefer that they investigate the Iraq war.
Re:Astroturfing (Score:5, Insightful)
Don't they have anything better to do? (Score:4, Insightful)
How about just dealing with it when the compaines lie and that whole false advertising thing?
Do people really think places like youtube and myspace were created for the community to use? No, they were created so they could get bought out by the big corporations and those corporations could put advertisments up.
Oh, and having a link in your signature to something you are trying to hock and replying to this article that this should have been looked into a long time ago... yeah, kinda hypocritcal.
Wii (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:How low can they go? (Score:5, Insightful)
Santa says "what about ethical? ho ho ho!" (Score:3, Insightful)
So is putting crack cocaine in your cola drink.
Which brings us neatly onto cigarette sales.
Were all Slashdotters born yesterday? (Score:3, Insightful)
For Christ's sake, this has been the way the world has worked for thousands of years. (Remember the story about John the Baptist starting the buzz about the "one who comes after"?)
"Consumers" have NEVER "set the buzz." If you think otherwise, I'd like to meet you, because there's a good chance you'll be buying whatever I'm pitching in 3-6 months. (And you'll think it was your idea too.)
Re:How low can they go? (Score:3, Insightful)
De Beers, Viral Marketing Since 1888 (Score:5, Insightful)
De Beers [theatlantic.com] has the longest running viral marketing campaign in history. It started in the 1880's and is still going strong today.
Re:Astroturfing (Score:3, Insightful)
Sony already has name recognition. Name recognition is not what they're trying to get here, what they're trying to get is positive association - and they've gotten the exact opposite.
Re:Question . . . (Score:3, Insightful)
There are all kinds of other laws regulating commercial speech: cigarette advertising must include disclaimers stating that smoking is hazardous, 'bait and switch' advertising tactics are illegal, etc.
One reason why the FTC is investigating 'viral marketing' practices is that they are trying to see if advertisers are using viral marketing practices to try to to do a 'run around' on the various FTC-imposed marketing rules. Another reason is that they are trying to see if the marketing practice is unfair to the consumer, because one of the charters of the FTC is to make sure that marketing practices are fair to the consumer.
My point is that no one should really be surprised by any of this... regulation of commercial speech is one of the things that the FTC does.
Re:Astroturfing (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Astroturfing (Score:4, Insightful)
I'd be willing to bet that most people in the demographic they were aiming this for know what a PSP is already. I was halfway thinking of getting a PS3, but all these little things continue to turn me off to it. The chances of me purchasing a PS3 are closing in on the chances of me buying a PSP - that is to say, No Chance.
In the end, this isn't just some "bad press" I'm hearing about; I've been insulted. Sony seems to think that the demographic of people that will buy their PSP product, of which I'm a part, is both illiterate and unable to spell properly. Granted, Sony hasn't insulted me personally, but doing this has nonetheless lowered my view of them even further.
They have sacrificed their target demographic's goodwill for gaining a token amount of mindshare outside of the demographic. And the thoughts associated with that mindshare may be: "Golly, those gamers sure are pissed at Sony. Maybe I'll get little Timmy a DS instead of a PSP."
Re:How low can they go? (Score:1, Insightful)
(Really, if you can't tell the difference between real enthusiasm and fake advocacy, then you've got bigger problems than being "victim" to marketing.)
Not necessarily... (Score:5, Insightful)
My devil's advocate reaction to this is, "not necessarily." If company X didn't have to spend a billion dollars to counteract company Y's $900 million advertising budget, they could use that money to help save consumers dollars. Or they could put it into R&D and engineering to actually make a better product instead of just telling us it's a better product.
Also, I (and a lot of other people) are more than willing to pay a premium for ad-less products. Does anyone remember the days way back when most cable channels didn't have ads? Now you have to pay the cable company for channels with ads, and the channels that don't have ads are very expensive. (Yet notice how they still have a lot of subscribers for that premium.)
I myself don't watch ads on television at all. Every show I want to watch, I either get via iTunes download for $2 a pop (or a season subscription), or by less scrupulous means that I don't want to go into if it's not available by any other means (wink, wink). I have a few small web sites I run for personal reasons, and I buy the hosting space at a reasonable non-free price so that I don't have to subject my visitors to a barrage of ads. I run Firefox with AdBlock so that I can avoid as many ads as possible while browsing the Internet.
I still run across ads now and then, as they're unavoidable in society. The point, though, is that I still spend plenty my share of disposable income, companies still make plenty of money off of me, but they have to do it by actually having products of decent quality that I want or need, not by yelling in both my ears constantly.
In other words, there is another way.
Personally, I think the best advertising any company can have is virtually free. It's from friends who have products and tell me about them. It's from reputable website reviews that describe up-and-coming technology and products. It's from companies' own websites that provide as much real information about products I'm interested in as I need to make an informed decision. All of these things are dirt cheap compared to the billions that companies spend on radio, television and web ads that I never see or hear. Go figure.
Amen.
Protect Me, Oh Federal Government (Score:5, Insightful)
For my entire life, I've been exposed to celebrity endorsements, and the only effect has been to fine tune my bullshit filter.
Please refund the portion of my taxes that is going to paying these guys salaries.
Re:Question . . . (Score:5, Insightful)
Why is important to tell people who paid for a political comercial when it was played on TV?
The reason is simple, because it is reasonably simple to mislead people about the source and content of an advertizement. Consider the harm to a political campaign if people started making fake comercials for their opponents in order to make their supporters look stupid ("My name's Dan, and I think all these 'feminists' need is a good ing. I support John Smith because he believes a woman's place is in the kitchen.").
As comercials move away from being in comercial breaks and billboards to product placement and blogs it is important to tell people that they're being advertized to and who is doing the advertizement.
Consider the damage that would be done to the XBox had Sony created a fake blog on how to pick up 12 year old boys on XBox Live (and made sure that this got noticed on major news sites). If Sony got away with it, XBox Live could be killed by people's outrage.
Re:Astroturfing (Score:4, Insightful)
Seriously, advertising as an industry has no redeeming qualities. It consumes resources and produces nothing of value. It convinces people to do or buy things they wouldn't have if they thought about it rationally, and it does this through deceit and making people feel insecure. It's not quite as bad as baby torturing, but it certainly isn't something any decent, moral human being would ever want to do.
Let me guess, you're in advertising? If so, why don't you take some advice from comedian Bill Hicks?
And to that let me add: anyone in the business of mind control, I hope you get some horrible disease and die a painful death. As Bill said, there is no excuse for what you do.
Re:Astroturfing (Score:2, Insightful)
Whew.
OK, so now that we're all back to having to tell each other what building downtown contains what businesses (since, I presume, you wouldn't even want the Yellow Pages to exist)...
How does your local farmer communicate the fact that, this week, he's got some really nice radishes? Let's see... he can't put up a sign (eeeek! advertising!). He can't stand on the corner and fill you in on his inventory for the week (gaaah! advertising!)... no, he has to wait for everyone to call HIM and ask what he's got, right? What if he suddenly has to pony up for a new tractor transmission (um, assuming that he's actually aware of where to shop for one at a good price, since no one in that line of work is allowed to advertise, right?), so he's interested in quickly generating customers for a bunch of his produce at a better than usual price. Of course, you wouldn't want him to be able to actually tell anyone that they're able to save some money, this week, by doing business with him, would you?
No point bothering with more of this. I'm sorry that you're so unable to exercise critical thinking in the marketplace. I'm sorry that you think it's better to outlaw communication about goods and services than it is to expect parents to teach their kids how to prioritize a little bit, or critically evaluate something that's being said to them. Those skills will also help them when evaluating other pitches. Say, from politicians that are trying to sell them on the notion that, if elected, they'll save them from their own inability not to buy things, by outlawing advertising. Sweet, sweet irony. Nice to hear from you, though, here on advertising-supported slashdot.
A few problems with that... (Score:3, Insightful)
Let's say I work for a studio that is producing a new movie. If I go out on a movie forum and say "Have you heard about this movie that's coming up? It's going to be pretty cool!!!", that could be considered viral marketing.
So, what if it's true, and I really believe it? Even if it's not, you can't prove that it's false or misleading. An opinion, by definition, is subjective.
Also, where do you draw the line? I'm a software engineer. Am I not allowed to say good things about my company's products when I'm making the rounds at Christmas parties? Do I have to preface it every time with, "FYI: I'm an employee of X company, and my opinions my be influenced by that."
And, if it was mandatory to identify yourself, that's very difficult to enforce. Online, it's easy to be relatively anonymous. And, if I'm talking about my product and I don't properly identify myself, what are you going to do, throw me in jail? Fine me? What is a fitting punishment for the crime of stating an opinion in the improper way?
I can see your point that it can be misleading and untruthful. However, regulating it is impractical and unfeasible, not to mention clearly contrary to the first amendment (I don't think your comparison to insider trading laws really holds water).
It is each of our jobs as an internet citizen to determine what information on the web is good, and what is total crap. That's the way it's always been, and I genuinely hope it remains that way so that we don't start down the slippery slope toward internet censorship.
Re:A few problems with that... (Score:3, Insightful)
As far as I'm concerned, no company should be allowed to engage in a mindfuck that severe.
Re:Astroturfing (Score:3, Insightful)
Neither government nor corporations are the ultimate power, neither should be given free reign at the expense of the other. What we need is some fucking sanity, and a good start would be getting rid of this practice. Fake testimonials need to be told about in print and on the radio and on TV, why are they acceptable in real life?