How To Tell If Your Cell Phone Is Bugged 338
Lauren Weinstein writes to point us to his essay on the realities of using an idle cell phone as a bug, as a recent story indicated the FBI may have done in a Mafia case. From the essay: "There is no magic in cell phones. From a transmitting standpoint, they are either on or off... It is also true that some phones can be remotely programmed by the carrier to mask or otherwise change their display and other behaviors in ways that could be used to fool the unwary user. However, this level of remote programmability is another feature that is not universal... But remember — no magic! When cell phones are transmitting — even as bugs — certain things are going to happen every time that the alert phone user can often notice."
How to tell (Score:5, Funny)
Not a bug (Score:5, Funny)
great advice (Score:5, Funny)
For example, when using a Palm Treo 650, the phone will crash and reset often, and without notice.
Re:Not a bug (Score:4, Funny)
--Robert Gates [wikipedia.org]
Re:Easy way to detect a bugged phone (Score:3, Funny)
Im sure they would love this.
Does it sound like Capt obvious here just got his first mobile telephonic device? fta
Re:That doesn't work, here's why (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Disposable phones (Score:5, Funny)
How to tell if your cell phone is bugged... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Easy way to detect a bugged phone (Score:3, Funny)
Old, old news (Score:4, Funny)
It's been long known that;
1. some providers can download arbitrary software to some phones
2. a phone can be running that software while appearing not to be making a call
The potential for abuse is obvious.
I gave up my mobile phone about a month ago now. I read through a full list of the ways in which the British State monitors me. When you read them all at once, it has quite an impact. The simple question I have is this: I am completely innocent. I have commited no crimes and am not suspected of committing any crimes.
SO WHY AM I BEING WATCHED?
Re:That doesn't work, here's why (Score:5, Funny)
Oh so much easier in the old russian times (Score:4, Funny)
Somewhere in a poorly lit dockyard... (Score:5, Funny)
Gangster 2. NO! Shh! Keep your voice down until you dial out — that thing could be bugged.
Phone. "This phone is not being used as a covert surveillance device. Please continue to arrange your morally and/or legally questionable activities as normal."
Gangster 1. Muh?!
Phone. "Please ignore this message."
Re:Disposable phones (Score:5, Funny)
It's easier said than done. There aren't as many payphones about as there used to be*, and a lot of those that are left require phone cards.
Then, when you do find a suitable one, how do you know it isn't bugged already?
Lastly, getting a roll of dimes from the just isn't that easy in most of the countries in the world. Of course, most of the world's payphones don't accept dimes either...
-- Steve
* The UK has a unique situation: while the number of payphones in the UK may have decreased, the number of British Telephone Boxes has remained about the same - they've just moved to more exotic locations in other countries. The same goes for British Police Boxes, except that their movements appear not to be limited to the first three dimensions.
Re:Easy way to detect a bugged phone (Score:5, Funny)
I have the ultimate protection against snoopers... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Oh so much easier in the old russian times (Score:3, Funny)
Re:How to tell (Score:5, Funny)
Signed,
Re:I think it's call log profiling (Score:3, Funny)
Re:That doesn't work, here's why (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I think it's call log profiling (Score:4, Funny)
Osama, is that you?
Re:That doesn't work, here's why (Score:4, Funny)
Zing! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Not a bug (Score:4, Funny)
Look at the color of the wires (Score:5, Funny)
Other colors are not defined by the standards, so if your phone has wires which are not green, nor red - you have a counterfeit phone.
Re:Disposable phones (Score:2, Funny)
And a time machine...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payphone [wikipedia.org]
"In the United States, the coin rate for a local direct-dialed station-to-station call from a payphone has been 50 in most areas since mid-2001"
Figure out which app it is and delete it. (Score:3, Funny)
How to tell (Score:4, Funny)
Wait 30 minutes.
If there are no black helicopters after 30 minutes then you probably aren't being bugged.
Re:Disposable phones (Score:1, Funny)
Re:I think it's call log profiling (Score:4, Funny)
No, it's Mark. Get it right.
Re:That doesn't work, here's why (Score:1, Funny)
Re:How to tell if your cell phone is bugged... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Well, I guess (Score:1, Funny)
Re:That doesn't work, here's why (Score:4, Funny)
Mark: Hello. My name is Mark. Is there any messages for me?
Don't bother - One time pad is the way to go (Score:3, Funny)
8-16 *different* friends to each buy you a prepaid phone. Number them.
When you need to make a call, roll the die, use the phone, toss it in
the trash or better, give it to a random teenager to use up the minutes.
Re:I'll try to record the conversations (Score:5, Funny)
Re:great advice (Score:2, Funny)
For example, when using a Palm Treo 650, the phone will crash and reset often, and without notice.
Dude! My XP box must be bugged!
Re:Well, I guess (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Hanlon's Razor (Score:3, Funny)
(In any case, this Hanlon fellow sounds like a big, gullible sucker. Scam artists thrive on people who attribute their malice to incompetence/stupidity.)