IBM Denies Destroying Evidence in SCO Case 125
Rob writes "IBM Corp has denied claims made by SCO Group that it destroyed evidence relevant to
their ongoing breach-of-contract and copyright case, maintaining that SCO has had the
evidence in question in its possession since March 2005. SCO, which believes IBM breached
a contract by contributing Unix code to the Linux operating system, accused IBM of
destroying evidence in a July 2006 court filing, claiming that "IBM directed 'dozens'
of its Linux developers within its LTC [Linux Technology Center] and at least 10 of its
Linux developers outside... to
delete the AIX and/or Dynix source code from their computers.""
Not a logical argument (Score:5, Insightful)
Now if these were the last copies of AIX source, then IBM is by far the dumbest company in existence
What a mess! (Score:5, Insightful)
I simply cannot believe how long this has gone on. What a staggering waste of time and resources. This is probably as good an example as any of why the West is probably going to fall. While China is ramping up production and making huge economic strides, [wikipedia.org] we here in the US are arguing over lines of code as our manufacturing base continues to crumble [indystar.com]. Changing over to a "service economy?" Please.
How many hours have been wasted on this type of crap? What useful item has been produced out of this or any of the other spurious "copyright" or "intellectual property" cases?
Trial lawyers giving money to politician lawyers [opensecrets.org], who make laws so trial lawyers can argue cases against rival trial lawyers in front of judge lawyers. So, what's the common denominator and who benefits? Follow the money.
Re:What a mess! (Score:5, Insightful)
Likewise, lawsuits, dollar for dollar, count just as much towards economic growth as manufactured goods.
Edward Abbbey once said, "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell." In a country where monthly economic figures are cited in election debates, is it any wonder that our system favors fast growing tumors?
I deny all sorts of things also... (Score:5, Insightful)
If something is simply not true, guess what? I'm going to deny it.
The headline should be "SCO accuses IBM of destroying evidence"
(eg: the party making the accusation should be the subject of the sentence)
TDz.
IBM does the right thing, and gets it wrong (Score:5, Insightful)
SCO's claims here a bit funny, why complain when IBM does the thing you most desperately want them to? Or perhaps the problem here is that SCO wants the Linux source pollution, then they might have an actual case...
Anyway, I'm thoroughly bored with this story now. I can't spare any more time griping about those bad people at SCO. They have become irrelevant.
Re:What cojones! (Score:5, Insightful)
While I agree that I simplified the claim, perhaps excessively, you've done the same thing.
To be very precise, they're claiming that IBM's developers copied "methods and concepts" from AIX/Dynix via the process of:
Note, though, that the above doesn't contradict my statement that they're trying to twist IBM's cautious and respectful behavior into a bad-faith destruction of evidence. Basically, SCO concocted this weird "your code becomes mine if it rubs against mine" infringement argument because they couldn't find any copied SVR4 code. Then they were unable to find enough evidence of that sort of "transitive infringement", and when they noticed that IBM had asked developers to delete code, they saw an opportunity to argue that IBM did that *because* it wanted to destroy evidence of such "transitive infringement".
I stand by my original characterization. SCO is trying to twist IBM's cautious avoidance of IP contamination into evidence of malfeasance.
Re:What a mess! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What cojones! (Score:3, Insightful)
Exactly. In fact, it constitutes good-faith, conscientious care with licensed code. Which is why it's so amazing that SCO thinks they can twist it 180 degrees and turn it into evidence of bad faith.
Re:What a mess! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What cojones! (Score:5, Insightful)
Wow, talk about your viral licences!
Re:What a mess! (Score:3, Insightful)
Our manufacturing base isn't crumbling on its own, executives of domestic companies are, for all intents and purposes, intentionally smashing them with BFHs and selling the American public at large out in the name of short-term gains (quarterly bonuses for "cost saving measures").
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Insightful)
Doubtful. They'd have to be guilty of criminal misconduct. The only thing that comes to mind that'll do that is if the SEC goes after them on suspicion of running a pump-and-dump scheme.
SCO's toast no matter what, but SCO execs are probably safe. It takes a lot to "pierce the corporate veil" and go after execs directly.
Re:Ever heard of Groklaw? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I deny all sorts of things also... (Score:3, Insightful)
Don't be bored (Score:4, Insightful)
Even though we've centered the SCO trolls in the gun sights, there's still plenty of time to enjoy watching them try to slither away before their component atoms are blasted back to the alternate universe they came from. The longer and more painful this process is for them, the better. Where's the popcorn? Bring on the show.
Re: when did you stop beating your wife (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What a mess! (Score:3, Insightful)
What this really means is... (Score:3, Insightful)
So there is nothing for GNU/Linux to have to remove and work around.
Or was this already obvious?