Microsoft Tricks Hacker Into Jail 284
CompotatoJ writes "Wired News reported that William 'IllWill' Genovese was sentenced to prison after being tricked by a Microsoft Investigator offering to pay $20 for a copy of the secret source code. From the article: 'The investigator then returned and arranged a second $20 transaction for an FBI agent, which led to Genovese's indictment under the U.S. Economic Espionage Act, which makes it a felony to sell a company's stolen trade secrets ... [Microsoft] has also expressed fears that making its source code public could allow hackers to find security holes in Microsoft products -- though, so far, intruders are doing fine without the source.'"
Re:Semantics... (Score:5, Insightful)
Available on P2P? (Score:5, Insightful)
If so, that is pretty damn stupid to be selling something that is readily available like that. I am betting these undercover folks would be his only customers.
Hacker ?! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Semantics... (Score:5, Insightful)
Notice corporate rights vs personal rights (Score:3, Insightful)
Microsoft source code stolen and sold is industrial espionage with 3 year sentence.
Technically Speaking . . . (Score:5, Insightful)
That's not a very good headline. I mean, aren't many
Ben
More stupid than criminal (Score:5, Insightful)
When I first read these types of articles, I usually think, that's outrageous, he didn't do anything, the code was already leaked, now the poor sap has a conviction for something trivial.
Then I realize, hey, I'd NEVER post stolen code or offer stolen code for sale on my website. Its friggin stupid. Its obviously stolen and obviously illegal and completely traceable to me. I'd expect to have the FBI knocking on my door if I did something so stupid. Like many criminals, this guy didn't cause any real harm but completely lacks judgement. Now he'll suffer a bit for it.
So what? (Score:2, Insightful)
No problem here, surely. Bloke caught for doing something wrong. Large organisation protects its IP.
Asserting that code in the public domain might cause security problems is just spin consistent with protecting IP. It's PR and would anyone here expect anything different. Might not be convincing but MS wants its code to itself, sees it as IP and wants to keep control over it. How is this different to any other organisation? Deride MS for being closed but if it acts consistently, where's the problem?
Wasn't there a war recently where the justification didn't really appear to reflect reality? Unless this guy is some kind of freedom fighter then where's the issue?
Re:Entrapment (Score:1, Insightful)
A police officer can't walk up to a scantly clad woman and hold out a $20, but a scantly clad police officer can wait for someone else to hold out a $20 and make a clear verbal offer ("Can you say that again, a little louder and into my only piece of jewelry please?").
Re:Ah, so THAT'S how they can get away w' entrapme (Score:3, Insightful)
You give way too little credit to the government. They could just have avoided coming up with the idea of entrapment in the first place. All of these defenses and legal terms were either coined by the government (through civil law), or used by a clever lawyer and accepted by the judge (through common law). If they wanted to, they could've built a Star Chamber. They haven't*. Here's a surprise: the justice system is actually meant to carry out justice.
Why should private companies be distinguishable from governments? In a capitalist society, private companies are the best group of the people - and where have you heard those last three words before?
*Yes, I know there are some Star Chambers in the US, but they're only used for a few cases like terrorism where you can't get a fair trial in the US anyway. Not that I'm defending them, just that this particular case will be tried in a fair courtroom.
source code transparancy & security (Score:3, Insightful)
Hacker? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Trade secret law? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:This is sooo untrue! (Score:3, Insightful)
No. Last season's losers.
All for a couple bucks (Score:3, Insightful)
Some people are just ridiculously stupid.
Re:I know illwill, he's not that bad... (Score:1, Insightful)
How do you know? Besides, if "illwill" thought that nobody would care, why did he bother trying to sell it anyway? And doesn't the fact that he actually sold it twice say that he actually believed people wanted to buy it? Intent is everything in criminal matters.
Even if nobody would have cared, this is still important in setting a precedent that selling someone else's source code isn't ok.
Taking away 2 years of a persons life over such trivial shit is appalling and only serves to make us more numb and hateful to the laws of our society.
For someone who has already admitted to not caring one bit about doing things that are wrong, it's quite amusing to hear you denounce someone else doing such things as "appalling". Not so fun when the tables are turned, eh?
I'm glad this idiot is going to jail, and I would probably be if you did to. I have little sympathy for sociopaths who don't care about hurting others, as do the rest of the world.
Re:I know illwill, he's not that bad... ?????????? (Score:1, Insightful)