Supreme Court Lets Utilization Rights Stand 341
Moof writes "The United States Supreme Court refused to hear a case between a programmer and his former employer. What makes this news is the fact that the court is letting stand the rulings of the lower courts: Essentially if someone owns a physical copy of software, then they are allowed to modify the code as part of their regular use, no matter what other agreements are in place."
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:5, Informative)
I've seen this tactic before... I wouldn't work that way.
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:2, Informative)
The big point - who owned the code (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Fair use has been reinforced... (Score:5, Informative)
Definition of the ruling (Score:4, Informative)
The company involved owned the software... outright owned it. You must remember that when you purchase a copy of 99.99999999% of all works, you do not own it, rather you purchased a license for it. Bascially, they are saying you may mod your car or house, because you own it, but they haven't said anything about licensed software.
Re:Contradiction (Score:2, Informative)
This link, posted in another comment, explains it better than the link in the
http://wistechnology.com/article.php?id=2194 [wistechnology.com]
I stand corrected.
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:3, Informative)
The employee doesn't own this; the corporation does.
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:DMCA Violation! (Score:3, Informative)
As other people have pointed out, the alleged violations happened before the DMCA existed. And no law is retroactive (or rather: no law should be retroactive)
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:2, Informative)
"Titleserv initially asserted that the programs were "works made for hire" within the
meaning of 17 U.S.C. 201(b). It later asserted entitlement to summary judgment regardless of
whether Krause was an independent contractor or employee. For the purposes of its summary
judgment ruling, the district court, adopting the magistrate judge's report, assumed arguendo that
Krause was an independent contractor and owner of the copyright in the programs he developed."
Re:You can't generalize it like that (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Fair use has been reinforced... (Score:3, Informative)
Maybe somebody else remembers the details better...
Work Made for Hire (Score:3, Informative)
In order for a work that is created by a freelance contractor to qualify as a "work made for hire" [copyright.gov] (specific wording of copyright law), both parties have to specifically agree, in writing, that the work is a work made for hire. If no such agreement exists, then the contractor owns the copyright of the work. That's one good reason to have a contract if you are the one doing the hiring.
In addition, the work must fall into one of nine specific categories delineated by copyright law -- for example, it might be a contribution to a collective work. Generally speaking, if a contractor wrote a software program from whole cloth and nobody else ever touched the code and there was no understanding that anybody ever would, then that program could probably not be considered a work made for hire under copyright law. If if the contractor's code is part of a collective work, however, it still is not a work for hire unless the abovementioned agreement is in place.
The rules for employees are different. The employer clearly has the upper hand there.
Not a problem (Score:1, Informative)
Re:GPL implication (Score:3, Informative)
The GPL v2 only definitely kicks in when you want to distribute copies of the GPL software, which is otherwise illegal under copyright law. The terms are that you can distribute copies, as long as the new copies are also covered by the GPL, to whit, make available the source as well as the binaries. This defacto means if you want to sell or give away modified GPL software, you have to give them the modifications too. But only if you're distributing copies. You keep the modifications in-house, you don't need to give anyone anything, as the GPL is not needed to defend a case of copyright infringement; as you're not infringing copyright.
Since you already have the right of modification, this ruling won't affect existing GPL v2 software, as the ruling doesn't address reselling copies of modified software.
It's difficult to see how the GPL v3 is going to address the output of modified GPL software being used for network services; the GPL gains its strength from allowing more than copyright does, but at the price of sharing the source. Copyright law doesn't cover the output of programs, as it's not a derivative work. About the only way something like say, apache, could easily be covered is to force all web pages to include a copyrighted piece of GPL code, which then requires that the rest of the GPL software that generated that output to be made available as part of that 'bundling'.
Still, assuming they did find some legal trick, like modifying the output, or the legal 'hack' of saying extra copies into memory or locally on hard-drives count as copyright infringement (works in some places, but not others), and thus compliance with the GPL needed to do so; then the ability to modify software without needing to comply with the GPL would indeed make this court case a possible road block for the GPL team.
Note, IANAL, but this is my understanding based on discussions with people who are.
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:3, Informative)
Most photographers wanted to retain copyright and provided no options, which is why we didn't give them our business.
Thank you. Grandparent post is just *wrong* (Score:1, Informative)
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:3, Informative)
I've seen this happen a lot. Someone gets a gig and is careless about leaving source code lying around. Later they figure out that they might be able to sell their code to someone else, or that their relationship with the company is going to change, and realize that they should have been more careful in distributing source code.
However the complaint involves not only the source code but executable only code as well. His choice of languge, clipper, allowed TitlServ to eventually decompile the executable only applications to which they didn't have source code. I suspect this is at the heart of Krause's complaint. Even if he realized too late that he left some source behind he probably felt at least with the two programs he was careful with that they would have to contract with him for more work or to bend over to get the source code. Today that might be a DMCA violation, but in days gone by, simply decompiling a program to make changes to it was not necessarily any sort of civil or criminal offense.
If you're contracting for someone it's best to get this sort of thing in writing up front.
ymmv.
Re:How does he legally claim copyright? (Score:2, Informative)
If you were working on an existing product owned by the employer, copyright is theirs.
If you were working on a product substantially *designed* (not just spec'd) by the employer, copyright is theirs.
If you were working with a team of others hired by the company, or employees of the company, copyright is theirs.
If you were indistinguishable from an employee during your work (worked in their facilities, on their equipment, on their hours) it is generally considered "work for hire" and the copyright is theirs.
If you recieved specs, then designed and built the product on your own time, on your own property/systems, without constant direct oversight, then the copyrights are most likely yours, with a perpetual, non-exclusive license given to the employer.
That said, if you are relying on any of this without having it expressly written in your contract, you are a fool.
This doesn't invalidate the GPL (Score:3, Informative)
Hi!
Um, no. Nothing is getting invalidated here. And this doesn't affect GPL'd software, precisely because you (generally) don't pay substantial sums of money for it. (Remember that paying substantial sums of money was one of the criteria for ownership.) Even if it does apply to GPL'd software, so what? Nothing's changed: the whole point of Open Source software, regardless of the license, is that you can examine the source code and make modifications. This decision simply puts commercial software on the same basis: if you paid substantial sums to buy it, can use it indefinitely, and have the ability to discard it if you choose, then for purposes of interpreting the statute you "own" a copy of the software.
Re:You're buying a CD. (Score:3, Informative)
Uhu, of course, what else would it be? That is exactly what I said.
> As it says, "you own the media on which the software is stored...."
There is no such distinction, the CD *is* the copy of the work in question (software in this case). Since this is the US, you might want to look at the US copyright law and its definition. Especially of a "copy" which is a material object including the media it is stored on. There is no such thing as "the media and the software" as seperate entities. here, a link for you:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/u
And if you are too lazy, here is the text:
"?Copies? are material objects, other than phonorecords, in which a work is fixed by any method now known or later developed, and from which the work can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. The term ?copies? includes the material object, other than a phonorecord, in which the work is first fixed."
That is a copy of a work.
>The right to copy and execute that software are what is spelled out in the EULA.
The right to copy is covered and restricted by the LAW (copyright law in this case). For copying it is quite restrictive. Only if I need ADDITIONAL copying, that is forbidden by the copyright law, do I need any special licence. Otherwise I do not since there is nothing forbidding it.
There is no such thing as "right to use". It is not covered by copyright law and is not a special right of the copyright holder. As long as the use does not involve infringing actions, it is perfectly allowed without any sort of permision or license.