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Federal Agencies To Collect Genetic Info 428

protagoras writes "According to a bill approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee, suspects arrested or detained by federal authorities may have their DNA forcibly collected for permanent storage in a central database. The bill is supported by the White House as well, but has not yet gone to the floor for a vote. Current law permits this only for those convicted of a crime. So even though completely innocent, should the Feds decide to detain you for any reason, your genetic data will grace their database beside that from murders, terrorists, and other miscreants." From the article: "The provision, co-sponsored by Kyl and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), does not require the government to automatically remove the DNA data of people who are never convicted. Instead, those arrested or detained would have to petition to have their information removed from the database after their cases were resolved. Privacy advocates are especially concerned about possible abuses such as profiling based on genetic characteristics."
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Federal Agencies To Collect Genetic Info

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  • Ha! (Score:5, Funny)

    by ScrewMaster ( 602015 ) on Sunday September 25, 2005 @05:31PM (#13646424)
    To all those ostrich-human hybrids who have ever said, "But ... this is America, it could never happen here!" I say, "PHOOEY!"

    Gattaca, here we come.
  • Excellent (Score:4, Funny)

    by Solr_Flare ( 844465 ) on Sunday September 25, 2005 @05:33PM (#13646442)
    Now, if arrested I can attempt a wild, crazed escape and know that if I am killed in the attempt my clone can stand trial for me instead.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 25, 2005 @05:35PM (#13646456)
    That's ok this will get overturned. Religious conservatives do not believe in the existance of DNA, or microbes, for that matter.
  • Great (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 25, 2005 @05:36PM (#13646465)
    If 1,000,000 different agencies each want a 100 mg sample from me, what does that leave me with?
  • by Richthofen80 ( 412488 ) on Sunday September 25, 2005 @05:47PM (#13646523) Homepage
    So, the reason Federal Law Enforcement Agencies want this is because often times crime scences contain a fair amount of DNA evidence. They can quickly eliminate suspects if they know their DNA does not match.

    I'm surprised at all the uproar over this. If you are arrested, but later cleared, your fingerprints are still kept. When is the last time your local police station returned your fingerprint card?

    I have been arrested and later the charges were dropped. I didn't get my fingerprints back, and I'm pretty sure they could be in a municipal or state database. Fingerprints, like DNA, are unique. Its essentially the same thing.

    I found the best way to avoid false incrimination is to not leave my DNA at crime scenes.
  • by eskayp ( 597995 ) on Sunday September 25, 2005 @05:54PM (#13646558)
    This is an excellent neoconservative method for King George
    to remedy that pesky budget problem he has created
    since his appointment by the Supreme Court.
    Insurance companies will pay a fortune for this data.
    Marketing and sales of the DNA data can be subcontracted
    to a deserving large donor/contractor like Halliburton.
    Large data-centric corporations can bid on the data
    with off-the-books donations to the Republican Party.
    If only we could identify and track the DNA coding for
    liberalism, populist tendencies, honesty,and fiscal
    responsibility, we could sterilize, imprison, and/or
    eliminate that treasonous segment of the population.

  • From the governments point of view.

    Step 1. Detain suspect.
    Step 2. Obtain DNA.
    Step 3. Sell DNA to private companies for various research
    Step 4. Profit!!

    From private companies point of view.

    Step 1. Obtain ultra cheap source of DNA.
    Step 2. Patent private citizens DNA sequences.
    Step 3. Profit!!

    From Joe averages point of view.

    Step 1. Get arrested, detained and have DNA sample taken.
    Step 2. Be released without charge.
    Step 3. Have results of own DNA sold back to self.
    Step 4. ???
    Step 5. Profit.

    God bless capitalizm. So much better than all that capitalism rubbish with its silly respect for people and all that rubbish.
  • Pennies (Score:5, Funny)

    by kevin_conaway ( 585204 ) on Sunday September 25, 2005 @05:59PM (#13646591) Homepage
    Bah, anyone knows that if you've ever handled a penny, the governments got your DNA. Why do you think they keep them in circulation?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 25, 2005 @06:07PM (#13646642)
    Arguing on the Internet is like running in the special olympics.. you might win... but you're still retarded.
  • by timmarhy ( 659436 ) on Sunday September 25, 2005 @06:09PM (#13646651)
    america really is on a slow boat to hell. lets take a look at the stats shall we? 1. the world hates you 2. your government is setting up gestapo style agencies 3. you RE ELECTED BUSH
  • Re:Meh (Score:3, Funny)

    by Wilson_6500 ( 896824 ) on Sunday September 25, 2005 @06:12PM (#13646673)
    Yes, you could refuse to give a sample, but if the police really wanted to obtain your DNA samples they'd just obtain a search warrant for your house, and attempt to collect it from hair/nails etc.

    Whew. That's creepy. Here come the police: they're searching your house, not for duck porn or drugs or guns, but for your SKIN. That would seriously make me feel like some creepy stalker, if I were a cop and had to visit some guy's house just to swab his toilet seat for a sample of his ass.
  • So... (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 25, 2005 @06:29PM (#13646769)
    All your base really are belong to U.S.

  • by cdrdude ( 904978 ) on Sunday September 25, 2005 @09:17PM (#13647535) Journal
    You want links to deviant porn!? :P
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 25, 2005 @10:41PM (#13647837)
    Is there anything there that we wouldn't be better without?

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