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Chief Justice Rehnquist Dies at 80 730

After 33 years at the bench, Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist has passed away at the age of 80 due to thyroid cancer. This comes after the retirement of Sandra Day O'Connor from the court over the summer. Rehnquist's passing gives President Bush the opportunity to replace the second justice of his term, this time perhaps to assume the highest role in the judicial system.
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  • Re:Long time justice (Score:2, Informative)

    by telstar ( 236404 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @12:42AM (#13474424)
    phamNewan ... meet hyperlink [wikipedia.org].

    And actually since Rehnquist was already conservative, Bush's nomination probably won't have a tremendous impact from how Rehnquist had sided on most issues.
  • Re:YRO? (Score:5, Informative)

    by grungebox ( 578982 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @12:42AM (#13474425) Homepage
    Obviously important, but your rights online??!?

    Did Grokster matter to you? Guess who decided that? It rhymes with "Mupreme Mort". The people who comprise that court have a very important influence on your rights, even online. Child Online Protection Act, Grokster, inevitable decisions on the Patriot Act and the DMCA, to name a few. So, yes, his death is important to your rights online. Sorry for the condescending rant. Well, not really.
  • by SynapseLapse ( 644398 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @12:42AM (#13474428)
    But wasn't Televangelist Pat Robertson praying for the death of a supreme court judge? If so.... @_@
  • Re:YRO? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04, 2005 @12:49AM (#13474468)
    Your rights, period.

    gives President Bush the opportunity to replace the second justice of his term

    O'Connor was a swing vote. With two vacancies, you can count on Bush getting a good say on who goes in (especially with a congress dominiated by pseudo-Republicans). This means the man who wants schools to teach intelligent design and ban abortion will pick the judges who will be deciding the major law cases of the next 5-10 years.

    You can forget about legal abortions and a good many of your rights now.
  • A scary thought (Score:3, Informative)

    by daspriest ( 904701 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @01:01AM (#13474534)
    From TFA:
    Possible replacements include Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales

    Based on his past memos, that would be one of the scariest things for human rights as a whole.

  • Re:Obvious issues... (Score:5, Informative)

    by bl968 ( 190792 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @01:14AM (#13474593) Journal
    Here's a nice article [thenation.com] with lots of facts for you to ignore on our godless consitution. It wasn't accidental it was intentional.

    "In 1797 our government concluded a "Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, or Barbary," now known simply as the Treaty of Tripoli. Article 11 of the treaty contains these words:

    As the Government of the United States...is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion--as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity of Musselmen--and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

    This document was endorsed by Secretary of State Timothy Pickering and President John Adams. It was then sent to the Senate for ratification; the vote was unanimous. It is worth pointing out that although this was the 339th time a recorded vote had been required by the Senate, it was only the third unanimous vote in the Senate's history"
  • NY Times Obituary (Score:3, Informative)

    by kevinatilusa ( 620125 ) <kcostell@@@gmail...com> on Sunday September 04, 2005 @01:27AM (#13474652)
    The New York Times has their obituary up for him at http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/politics/04REHNQ UIST.OBIT.WEB.html?pagewanted=all [nytimes.com].

    Registration required as usual, but this seems of high enough quality to make it worthwhile.
  • Re:YRO? (Score:5, Informative)

    by TheWanderingHermit ( 513872 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @01:34AM (#13474689)
    I love it when I'm in a discussion and someone quotes the Bible to prove me wrong. (I know that's not what you were doing -- trying to prove the AC wrong, but I think you'll agree with my point.)

    When someone does that, I start asking them a lot of questions about the Bible -- not what's in it, but when it was written, when the gospels were written, what sources the writers used, and so on. I have yet to meet someone who uses the Bible as an authority and a "that proves it all" source that has any clue about how it was put together and that the process that brought it into its present form is not at all what they think. Most people who quote the Bible to me are fundies, many of whom hate the Roman Catholic Church, and they get REALLY pissed when I can give them enough history to show them it was that very same church that is responsible for what was put in and left out of the Bible.

    I know they're stuck in a mindset and won't change, but after bringing it up with me, they usually go away frustrated. I can only hope that they've heard enough that they start to think, instead of quote what they've been told.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04, 2005 @01:41AM (#13474716)
    We have never had ALL of our branches of government run by a political party with control centered in the hands of so very few.
    When FDR was president the Democrats controlled both the house and the senate, and FDR was eventually able to appoint eight Supreme Court justices.
    http://clerk.house.gov/histHigh/Congressional_Hist ory/partyDiv.html [house.gov]
    http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_ and_teasers/partydiv.htm [senate.gov]

    Look at the party divisions from 1933 to 1945. Of course after this they decided to institute a two term limit for each president since the appointment of eight Supreme Court justices by one presidents gave some people aneurysms.
  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) * on Sunday September 04, 2005 @01:55AM (#13474773)
    How does a court that can only CANCEL actions taken by other branches of the government wield "more power" than the president - especially when issues have to be raised to them FIRST my citizens with problems!

    If Congress passes some law tomorrow that the court wanted to strike down, they could do absolutley nothing about it until a case is brought before them.

    So how does a body with no control over the armed forces, and no direct way to influence laws under debate have "more power" than the President?

    By design the courts are to be equals with the executive branch. Not superiors, nor does anything they can do tend to lead in that direction.
  • Dear Ghod, no.... (Score:5, Informative)

    by abb3w ( 696381 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @02:03AM (#13474809) Journal
    I'm not a Christian, never have been, but it's part and parcel of the Declaration of Independence (Creator anyone?) and the Constitution (God anyone?)

    Here we go again with this old debate....

    Yes, the founders of the United States believed in God -- but this makes them Deists, not necessarily Christians. The Declaration of Independence [archives.gov] does indeed speak of "Nature's God", and refer to mankind being "endowed by their Creator" -- but makes no mention of Christianity.

    Furthermore, NOWHERE in the Constitution [archives.gov] do the words "God" or "Christ" appear — a point oft considered conspicuous by omission in favor of "We The People". Rather, specific references are made to separate church and state, requiring within the constituion proper "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States", and in the Bill of Rights [archives.gov] opening with "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".

    Add in the evidence of the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli as ratified by Congress and as published with little stir in the Press (albeit not as drafted at the treaty table!) which declared "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..." , leads one to believe the Founders were doing their utmost to drag the United States away from the sectarian bloodshed that had divided Europe -- and particularly England -- for centuries.

    Jefferson is the source of the phrase "wall of separation between church and state" that the religious right so detest; a man who removed all references to the miracles from his personal transcription of the Gospels; and who felt that his authorship of the Stature of Virginia for Religious Freedom [worldpolicy.org] one of the accomplishments most worthy for noting in his epitaph. Living in Charlottesville and having recently visited Monticello, I feel obliged to assure you that the persistent ground vibrations you can feel standing in front of his tombstone is not the rumble of a passing truck, but Mister Jefferson spinning in his grave from Bush's Presidency. =)

    As for your assertion on abortion, while your position is better founded, I suggest you read the actual Roe v. Wade ruling all the way through; your assertion about the rights of the states in the 10th Amendment falls aside explicitly to the later "Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment"... although the court might reasonably revisit such a question, given the strained reasoning used. This makes the abortion war yet another twisted legacy of the debate over our former "peculiar institution."

    As to your prime assertion on the legal import of the intent of the founding fathers, I suggest you read Lessig's "Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace"... plus a good more of the biographies of those colorful, contestous, and amazingly human founders of ours. Leaving aside Lessig's points on unaddressed assumptions, suggesting they ever had a single unified intent is a slander to their memories and to what they achieved in their struggle to unify in common cause.

  • by spuzzzzzzz ( 807185 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @02:03AM (#13474810) Homepage
    I thought I'd share some choice bits of this article with the slashdot readership:

    in a troubling comment that largely escaped critical media scrutiny or even notice, Secretary of State Colin Powell declared on Black Entertainment Television that U.S. policy toward Chilean Marxist President Salvador Allende in the 1970s was "not a part of American history that we're proud of." Powell appears not to know that in toppling Allende the Chilean military saved Chile from suffering the same fate as South Vietnam with very little loss of life.

    WTF!?! No other part of the article mentions Chile. It seems he just stuck in this paragraph to say "OMG! They democratically elected a Socialist! If we hadn't overthrown him, the region would have descended a into military quagmire."

    A large chunk of the rest of the article is devoted to a discussion of Aaron Copland's political leanings. Maybe I'm just naive, but I find it astonishing that people consider someone's political opinions as justification for their persecution. The author of the article and the parent poster seem to feel that if McCarthy's targets believed in the Communist ideology then McCarthy must have been right to vilify them. In contrast, I have always believed that the free expression of ideas is to be encouraged.

    In summary, this article failed to change my opinions about McCarthy. I still see him as a man who did his best to kill free political expression in the US and I absolutely cannot agree with that.
  • by DSP_Geek ( 532090 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @02:08AM (#13474823)
    Accuracy In Media claimed, among other things, that Walter Cronkite was a Soviet dupe. They seem to have a fixation with Communists, seeing reds under every bed and in every story to the left of Mussolini. Plus, for added fun sprinkles, they're funded by Richard Mellon Scaife, the same guy behind a number of other extreme-right organisations.

    In other words, if AIM told me the sun rose in the east, I'd check with a compass just to be sure - their version of "accuracy" is hewn from the same wood as "compassionate" conservatism.

    Check out:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_in_Media [wikipedia.org]

    for a fuller story.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04, 2005 @02:09AM (#13474837)

    Re:Obvious issues... (Score:5, Interesting)
    by thoolie (442789) on Sunday September 04, @01:03AM (#13474545)

    The difference is when Clinton got his 2, the senate was run by republicans.


    The Senate voted 97-3 to confirm Ginsburg's nomination, and she took the oath of office on August 10, 1993 [supremecourthistory.org].

    After coming agonizingly close to a Supreme Court nomination in 1993, Breyer was President Bill Clinton's choice on May 14, 1994, for the seat vacated by Justice Harry A. Blackmun. True to form, Breyer easily won confirmation, 87-9, in the Senate [supremecourthistory.org].

    The Republican's weren't a majority in the Senate (and House) until after the November 1994 elections. The 104th Congress didn't take office until January 1995.
  • Re:RIP (Score:3, Informative)

    by deblau ( 68023 ) <slashdot.25.flickboy@spamgourmet.com> on Sunday September 04, 2005 @04:32AM (#13475384) Journal
    I don't know the facts, but how many of the previous justices have died while still being seated?

    Of the 108 Supreme Court Justices, 48 died in office, of whom eight were Chief Justice. Source: Oyez.org [oyez.org].

    1. William H. Rehnquist (CJ)
    2. Fred M. Vinson
    3. Wiley B. Rutledge
    4. Robert H. Jackson
    5. Harlan Fiske Stone (CJ)
    6. Frank Murphy
    7. Benjamin N. Cardozo
    8. Edward T. Sanford
    9. Pierce Butler
    10. Joseph R. Lamar
    11. Edward D. White (CJ)
    12. Horace H. Lurton
    13. Rufus Peckham
    14. Howell E. Jackson
    15. David J. Brewer
    16. Melville W. Fuller (CJ)
    17. Lucius Q.C. Lamar
    18. Samuel Blatchford
    19. Horace Gray
    20. Stanley Matthews
    21. William B. Woods
    22. John M. Harlan
    23. Morrison R. Waite (CJ)
    24. Joseph P. Bradley
    25. Salmon P. Chase (CJ)
    26. Samuel F. Miller
    27. Nathan Clifford
    28. Levi Woodbury
    29. Peter V. Daniel
    30. John McKinley
    31. John Catron
    32. Philip P. Barbour
    33. Roger B. Taney (CJ)
    34. James M. Wayne
    35. Henry Baldwin
    36. John McLean
    37. Robert Trimble
    38. Smith Thompson
    39. Joseph Story
    40. Thomas Todd
    41. Brockholst Livingston
    42. William Johnson
    43. John Marshall (CJ)
    44. Bushrod Washington
    45. William Paterson
    46. James Iredell
    47. William Cushing
    48. James Wilson
    Blah blah blah blah lameness filter sucks.
  • Re:YRO? (Score:3, Informative)

    by superchicken760 ( 912411 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @04:48AM (#13475426) Homepage
    Are you stupid. The court has more power than the president. They are the only institution that can VETO both the president and congress. They are a staple of humanity.

    Actually, the Supreme Court decisions are powerless without the executive and legislative branches' active will to adhere to them.

    So let me say it loud and clear: THE SUPREME COURT CANNOT ENFORCE ITS OWN RULINGS.

    They are only as powerful as the rest of government allow them to be. Recent precedents within the last fifty years give the court its authority, but in its earlier days historians note that its frailty was this very notion that the President and Congress could ignore the court's decisions, and were in no way explicitly required by law to support the court's decision with any consequent action.
  • Self promotion (Score:4, Informative)

    by ImaLamer ( 260199 ) <john@lamar.gmail@com> on Sunday September 04, 2005 @06:00AM (#13475594) Homepage Journal
    http://www.mintruth.com/blog/index.php?p=323 [mintruth.com]

    or even:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WilliamRehnquist [wikipedia.org]

    But you're right - it depends on where you sit on the fence. I certainly don't feel like he was one of the greatest, not by far.
  • by Alsee ( 515537 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @06:52AM (#13475743) Homepage
    Indeed. He did his best to try to keep to the consitution.

    Sure, however he had a very ... peculiar ... understanding of the constitiution. He also had an extremely ... selective ... version of history to fit his idiology.

    Rehnquist was almost fanatical in his efforts to reject Separation Of Church And State as some sort of mistaken view by that know-nothing freak Thomas Jefferson. Well one thing that Rehnquist and I agree on is that the formost authority on the meaning of the First Amendment was James Madison. However Rehnquist was quite selectively blind to Madison's many declarations on the subject.

    The civil Government, though bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability, and performs its functions with complete success, whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people, have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the State -- James madison March 2, 1819

    Strongly guarded as is the separation between religion and & Gov't in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history -- James Madison circa 1820

    Every new and successful example, therefore, of a perfect separation between the ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance; and I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together -- James Madison July 10, 1822

    I must admit moreover that it may not be easy, in every possible case, to trace the line of separation between the rights of religion and the civil authority with such distinctness as to avoid collisions and doubts on unessential points. The tendency to a usurpation on one side or the other or to a corrupting coalition or alliance between them will be best guarded against by entire abstinence of the government from interference in any way whatever, beyond the necessity of preserving public order and protecting each sect against trespasses on its legal rights by others. -- James Madison March 2, 1819

    Having always regarded the practical distinction between Religion and Civil Government as essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States -- James Madison June 3, 1811

    a perfect separation between the ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance; and I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together.

    We are teaching the world the great truth, that Governments do better without kings and nobles than with them. The merit will be doubled by the other lesson: the Religion flourishes in greater purity without, than with the aid of Government
    -- July 10, 1822

    proved that it[religion] does not need the support of government and it will scarcely be contended that government has suffered by the exemption of religion from its cognizance, or its pecuniary aid. -- James Madison 1832

    The settled opinion here is, that religion is essentially distinct from civil Government, and exempt from its cognizance; that a connection between them is injurious to both; that there are causes in the human breast which ensure the perpetuity of religion without the aid of the law -- James Madison March 18, 1823

    Rehnquist tried to claim that the only thing meant and prohibited by the Establishment Clause was an offical National Church. However Madison made it quite clear that is an absurd construction. Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Ho
  • by slughead ( 592713 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @02:28PM (#13478073) Homepage Journal
    You libertarians just want to trade a government with constitutional limits, for a defacto state run by corporations or individual robber barons, whose only limit is how much money they have.

    Ah yes, you clearly understand libertarianism.. oh woops, Libertarians are anti-corporation and for proprietorships and partnerships instead.

    The last Libertarian candidate for president even articulated this point in a slashdot interview.

    By the way, workers have freedom too.. you could always just not work for a company that doesn't pay you enough, unless you don't have enough skills/education to be "worth it".. or have you not taken an economics class?

    Is labor a good or service? Yes? Then the laws of supply and demand affect it.
  • Re:RIP (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04, 2005 @02:45PM (#13478184)
    To nitpick your nitpicking, the term democracy refers to any form of government where citizens have power either directly or through elected officials. The term republic is often used to refer specifically to a representative democracy. However, the Romans actually used the term respublica to refer to any government not lead by a king and this use continues to this day (i.e. many non-democracies include the word republic in their official name). The Romans considered Athens a republic and oddly enough they even referred to Sparta as republic (I guess that's because it had two kings so it technically wasn't lead by "a" king).

    Anyway, the point is that calling the United States a democracy is valid under the historical and current usage of the term. The idea that the term democracy can't refer to an indirect democracy seems to come from some misguided subset of social studies teachers.
  • by falconwolf ( 725481 ) <falconsoaring_2000 AT yahoo DOT com> on Sunday September 04, 2005 @05:04PM (#13479118)

    There's nothing 'far right' about it; in fact, many Libertarian viewpoints will get you thrashed by conservatives.

    Libertarians get it from both conservatives and (neo)liberals. Libertarians are like the classical liberalism of Thomas Jefferson and the classical liberals don't look like what's typically called liberal today.

    I hope Bush will nominate someone closer to the center than to the left (haha) or right.

    Falcon
  • by Lord Kano ( 13027 ) on Sunday September 04, 2005 @10:11PM (#13480598) Homepage Journal
    Abortion is an issue that is not necessarily religious. For example, the Catholic church's position is religious, but there are non-religious [godlessprolifers.org] pro life arguments as well.

    Either way, if it's acceptable for one side to demand a litmus test, then it's perfectly reasonable that the other side will as well.

    LK
  • Re:One more time. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Straif ( 172656 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @01:33PM (#13491215) Homepage
    Bush tried to get Governor Blanco to relenquish control for one simple reason, she has failed to follow almost any step in the LA emergency relief plan, and even those she did follow she was pushed into. All the while, the Feds get all the blame for a situation that the Constitution dictates they have no authority over. He declared LA and the surrounding States Federal disaster zones PRIOR to Katrina to open up the federal funds for the various governors use, which is about all he could do. He then had to ask her to request the Mayor order an evacuation prior to Katrina (something that their hurricane plan called for but they failed to do until 24 hours prior to landfall), and even then she failed to mobilize the National Guard and/or State police to assist the NOPD.

    Even after discussing options to help speed up the relief refforts she requested 24 hours to consider them (according to statements made by NO Mayor Nagins) and then hired a former Clinton advisor to help her save face.

    Members of the State government have made statements that she is refusing to give up control to prevent the Feds from being able to point fingers, not because she has a better plan than them. Simply put, she is putting politics infront of peoples lives.

    It amazing how people call for more leadership from Bush with one breath (when he legally has no power to act) but when he attempts to actually do what he can, within the bounds of the law, he is accused of trying to just grab power.

    People are dieing and all evidence points to the people in direct control (the Governor and to a much lesser degree the Mayor)of the situation being totally incompetant.

    It's a perfect example of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

    And the other affected areas don't look as bad, not because of political affiliation, but because their local and state governments have been helping and not impeding rescue efforts.

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