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U.S. National Identity Cards All But Law 1083

CompSci101 writes "News.com is running a story about the RealID Card legislation that's been attached to emergency military spending bills to ensure its passage. How soon does everyone think this system will be abused either by the government or by thieves ? The worst part is the completely machine-readable/automatic nature of the thing -- you might not even know you're giving your information away." From the article: "Starting three years from now, if you live or work in the United States, you'll need a federally approved ID card to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service. Practically speaking, your driver's license likely will have to be reissued to meet federal standards."
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U.S. National Identity Cards All But Law

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  • How soon? (Score:5, Funny)

    by PopeAlien ( 164869 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @02:58PM (#12454915) Homepage Journal
    How soon does everyone think this system will be abused either by the government or by thieves ?

    you mean theres a difference?
  • by cplusplus ( 782679 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @03:03PM (#12455000) Journal
    or radio frequency identification (RFID) chips
    Heh. I guess I'll have to make a tinfoil hat for my driver's license, too.
  • Re:Oh Boy (Score:0, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 06, 2005 @03:08PM (#12455100)
    I'm pre-emptively invoking godwins law to stop this post from becoming a thread.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law [wikipedia.org]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 06, 2005 @03:11PM (#12455141)
    In the words of a Heinlein:

    "When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere."
    -Lazarus Long
  • by athakur999 ( 44340 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @03:15PM (#12455208) Journal
    I've heard it's sufficient to simply wear a tin foil hat when you take your driver's license photo.

    The guy that said this was wearing a black suit, so he must have been telling the truth.

  • heh (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 06, 2005 @03:19PM (#12455268)
    RFID tag fun.

    Recode some tag.

    "looks like you are a can of beans sir. Please come with us."
  • by MooseByte ( 751829 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @03:38PM (#12455596)

    "He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead"

    So this would effectively reveal Dubya as the anti-christ? Yeah, kinda figured.... ;-)

    Though I always had him cast as Jar-Jar with Rove as the Sith Lord.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 06, 2005 @04:12PM (#12456148)
    Whew! Glad to see we finally got some anti-immigration legislation that the (liberal) courts can't monkey with.
  • by TheHonestTruth ( 759975 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @05:46PM (#12457426) Journal
    Personally I wish Texas would secede. Then we could bomb the shit out of them for oil.

    -truth

    PS, I wish I could take credit for this, but I can't. Saw it here on /. somewhere.

  • by Safety Cap ( 253500 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @07:16PM (#12458327) Homepage Journal
    ~ when he asked for my social security number, I told him that I was going to remain silent ~.
    (adopt slightly vacant look one gets when one watches TeeVee)

    "Uh, sorry, I don't remember it."

    You don't remember your social security number?

    No, sorry.

    (sigh) Fine. I'll let you off this time.

    (yes, this time and every time, you fat, donut-eating pork belly product of generational incest) "Thank you."

    Exit, stage left.

  • by Phist ( 837431 ) on Saturday May 07, 2005 @06:02AM (#12461192)
    I recieved this email on jan 15, 2004 and i guess this is as good as time as any to share

    laugh but i can see this in the near future!

    Operator: "Thank you for calling Pizza Hut. May I have your national ID number?"

    Customer: "Hi, I'd like to place an order."

    Operator: "I must have your NIDN first, sir?"

    Customer: "My National ID Number, yeah, hold on, eh, it's 6102049998-45-54610."

    Operator: "Thank you, Mr. Sheehan. I see you live at 1742 Meadowland Drive, and the phone number's 494-2366. Your office number over at Lincoln Insurance is 745-2302 and your cell number's 266-2566. Email address is sheehan@ home.net Which number are you calling from, sir?"

    Customer: "Huh? I'm at home. Where d'ya get all this information?"

    Operator: "We're wired into the HSS, sir."

    Customer: "The HSS, what is that?"

    Operator: "We're wired into the Homeland Security System, sir. This will add only 15 seconds to your ordering time"

    Customer: (Sighs) "Oh, well, I'd like to order a couple of your All-Meat Special pizzas."

    Operator: "I don't think that's a good idea, Sir."

    Customer: "Whaddya mean?"

    Operator: "Sir, your medical records and commode sensors indicate that you've got very high blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol. Your National Health Care provider won't allow such an unhealthy choice."

    Customer: "What?!?! What do you recommend, then?"

    Operator: "You might try our low-fat Soybean Pizza. I'm sure you'll like it."

    Customer: "What makes you think I'd like something like that?"

    Operator: "Well, you checked out 'Gourmet Soybean Recipes' from your local library last week, sir. That's why I made the suggestion."

    Customer: "All right, all right. Give me two family-sized ones, then."

    Operator: "That should be plenty for you, your wife and your four kids, and your 2 dogs can finish the crusts, sir. Your total is $49.99."

    Customer: "Lemme give you my credit card number."

    Operator: "I'm sorry sir, but I'm afraid you'll have to pay in cash. Your credit card balance is over its limit."

    Customer: "I'll run over to the ATM and get some cash before your driver gets here."

    Operator: "That won't work either, sir. Your checking account's overdrawn also."

    Customer: "Never mind! Just send the pizzas. I'll have the cash ready. How long will it take?"

    Operator: "We're running a little behind, sir. It'll be about 45 minutes, sir. If you're in a hurry you might want to pick 'em up while you're out getting the cash, but then, carrying pizzas on a motorcycle can be a little awkward."

    Customer: "Wait! How do you know I ride a scooter?"

    Operator: "It says here you're in arrears on your car payments, so your car got repo'ed. But your Harley's paid for and you just filled the tank yesterday"

    Customer: Well I'll be a "@#%/$@&?#!"

    Operator: "I'd advise watching your language, sir. You've already got a July 4, 2006 conviction for cussing out a cop and another one I see here on September for contempt at your hearing for cussing at a judge." "Oh yes I see here that you just got out from a 90 day stay in the State Correctional Facility. Is this your first pizza since your return to society?

    Customer: (Speechless)

    Operator: "Will there be anything else, sir?"

    Customer: "Yes, I have a coupon for a free 2 liter of Coke".

    Operator: "I'm sorry sir, but our ad's exclusionary clause prevents us from offering free soda to diabetics. The New Constitution prohibits this.

    Thank you for calling Pizza Hut!"

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