Inside an Adware Company 244
Haikster writes "Brad Stone of Newsweek wrote a great article exposing DirectRevenue which is actually a combination of the old Dash guys with IPInsight, abetterinternet, offeroptimizer and blackstonemedia and the others... it's a bit lengthy but a great read."
The truth about Adware (Score:5, Insightful)
If the same amount of effort currently used to fight spam is not applied to the spyware/adware situation, it will get just as bad if not worse than the spam problem.
As intrusive and annoying as spam is, at least it's influence doesn't extends past your email client. Spyware has the potential to totally screw up machines that do important tasks, which could be far more harmful.
Re:Dark. And noisy. (Score:5, Insightful)
Add Remove programs -> spyware program -> uninstall window -> im sure i want to uninstall -> i dont want to reconcider -> i dont want to provide a reason for uninstalling -> im still really sure i want to uninstall -> yes i know some features maybe deactivated -> i dont want to install any companion programs -> i dont want to have programs from your sponsors installed either -> i dont want to have more msn smilies -> why do i need to go to a website to uninstall? -> i still want to uninsall reason: i hate spyware -> uninstall -> please wait while you download the uninstaller -> program uninstalled successfully, 5 more programs installed by uninstaller
Re:I'm a newb (Score:2, Insightful)
I hate malware. (Score:3, Insightful)
Doing so could scare the spam authors, malware authors, virus authors, worm authors, spyware authors, and other illegitimate software authors into compliance with global IP standards, which will facilitate the streamlining of compelling enterprise solutions by content providers and emerging stewards of innovative technologies.
(If you didn't get the above then you need to do some critical thinking. It is composed in four layers and contains 12 hidden messages, 4 double meanings, and 9 psychological facts.)
Re:The truth about Adware (Score:1, Insightful)
"By using our software, you agree not to remove our adware. We will occasionally scan your computer for its presence, and push an installation, which you cannot abort except by powering down your PC. This installation is already initiated by Our software, and you authorize it in full yadda yadda yadda..."
Surreptisoft standard licence agreement Section 84 Clause C subclause q paragraph 196
Re:How many are Slashdot readers? (Score:0, Insightful)
It concerns us.... (the military) (Score:5, Insightful)
Admittedly we are't suppoed to be discussing classified information but we deal with politically sensitive stuff all the time.
Stupid names (Score:1, Insightful)
Adware and Spyware are making me money (Score:3, Insightful)
People get infected so easily because the just don't understand. Your average joe doesn't know the difference between virii and spyware; They don't understand that Norton Antivirus doesn't block this stuff too ( though they're starting to try ); They don't realize that IE's swiss cheese-like security is what allows most of this stuff on their system. While I spend a lot of my time cleaning spyware of my customer's computers, I also try to take the time to educate them. I show them the Adaware and Spybot icons. I run through them once with the customer to make sure they understand how to perform updates. I explain the new Firefox icon and how they should always always always use it, unless the site refuses to load without IE. I explain why Norton didn't stop it, and why the firewall didn't help. Folks just hear a lot of buzzwords like these and they just store the basic meme "Firewall=Safe" or "Antivirus=No Infection".
It shouldn't have to be this way. But it is, and I'm profiting from it. That makes me feel dirty in a way, even though I'm not the asshole clogging up the works.
Re:How many are Slashdot readers? (Score:1, Insightful)
What I want to know... (Score:3, Insightful)
...is if their business model includes such practices, how do they get around many states anti-hacking laws? In several states it is a felony computer crime to install software onto people's computers without permission. Most Adware companies get around this by a "click-through" license but it was not mentioned in the article if Direct Revenue uses such.
Even with a click-through license I would love to hear them explain to a judge their justification for automatic reinstallation after a user deletes it.
Kill em all (Score:4, Insightful)
As I type this I'm about to finally sit down for a movie after spending hours on yet on spyware/adware infested PC. I'm just tired of it. As much as I hate those scumbags who put out adware etc I have to once again question. What the fuck was Microsoft thinking waiting until summer 2004 to deal with the problem? Oh and the other 50% of Windows users on this planet who are not running XP with SP2? They're just as screwed now as they were before.
Talk, talk, talk. (Score:3, Insightful)
Really, does it take more effort to write a letter to a congressman, or to add one sentence to the beginning of an EULA? Or to code, for that matter? Here guys, let's make life easy on you:
wantmalware=Application->MessageBox("I would like to spy on you, slow your PC and pop ads in your face all day long. Is this OK?", NULL, MB_YESNO);
My poor little fingers, they are cramping up already.
give me a break (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:How many are Slashdot readers? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Adware and Spyware are making me money (Score:5, Insightful)
Most times I've only had to see people once. It's very disheartening though, when two weeks later, the same customer comes back, riddled with viruses and spyware.
Me: "where's the programs I installed? Sygate? Ad-aware? Avg?"
Customer: "umm, I guess we uninstalled them.. kazaa wasn't working right."
Me: "fine, $60, we'll try again."
I don't think I'm long for this game anymore. Users can be very draining on your spirit. Really bugs me that I've had no problems with my 10 machines in 7 years or so.
Re:Dark. And noisy. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Where's the part with the burning and the fires (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:It concerns us.... (the military) (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:How many are Slashdot readers? (Score:2, Insightful)
The more the community knows about exploits, the better, instead of having company X knowing a secret exploit that no one even knows about for years at a time and using it to there advantage.