DaimlerChrysler/SCO Case Winds Down

kuwan writes "It was previously reported that SCO moved for and was denied a stay in their case agains DaimlerChrysler. (Remember that all of SCO's claims against DaimlerChrysler were thrown out except for the issue of whether or not DaimlerChrysler made its certification in a timely manner.) The opposition and reply memos for that motion are now available and apparently SCO's motion was so weak that DaimlerChrysler is asking SCO to pay the cost of preparing their opposition memo. A nice summary of the latest maneuvers is available at scofacts.org."

Re:Wow

[Gadzinka]

Dear Anonymous moron

You forget that /. is site with mostly American readers and moderators. Every time someone writes something "ontopic" that isn't pleasant for Americans and doesn't agree with their American point of view, he gets modded down as "offtopic", "redundant" or even "troll" or "flamebait".

Why argue your point of view, when you can make the opposite point disappear?

Robert

Re:Fall of SCO

[multipart]

IBM has no interest in putting UNIX under the GPL. They still have Dynix and AIX, remember? Just because they hopped onto the Linux boat doesn't mean they've abandoned their proprierty software base.

Out smarted more than out gunned

[jav1231]

I think DC could have probably played this out to the end just as easily as IBM seems to be able to. DC was smart in that they just didn't have any of SCO's products running in production, as I understand it. It was almost the equivilent of the BSA auditing you for unlicensed M$ products and finding out you're a Linux shop. Oh, and all M$ products sitting on a shelf are in their original boxes and amount to old copies of WFW and MS-DOS 3.2.

Re:for USAsian crusaders every dissident is a here

[Anonymous Coward]

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

The USians are coming. To "liberate" you.

Does your country have Oil? If not, it probably has Bin Laden? No? That's alright, I'm sure they'd find some reason or the other to invade you.

You think they respect your sovereign rights? You think they care? Nope.

While dictators are ruling countries like North Korea and Pakistan, they are more concerned about Iraq - the people need to be liberated, you know? The oil, most importantly.

So that the USians can sit in their homes with their gas guzzling SUVs and eat fries and watch their reality shows. And ofcourse, complain about outsourcing and how their rights are being "trampled" while they vote in the same guy who took those rights away in the first place.

A bunch of fucking hypocrites. That is what they are.

Look at the US. They do not respect other nations sovereign rights. Their allies are Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Israel and the like. They subsidize China and overlook Chinese human right abuses. They do not even care enough about the environment to ratify the Kyoto. It is a sad, sad state of affairs.

And *YET* the moment you bring this up, some USian will come up and pretend that they care.

Do not bother. They are too high up in their "religious" and "moral" highground to care about the world. They like policing the world and are too used to the comforts of their MacDonalds and their SUVs.

In a nation that prides itself of liberty and values, they have not even elected a non-white non-Christian non-Catholic non-male President. Ever. So much for their "values".

Get over it, USians do not care. Vietnam happened once and you think their people would learn. But Iraq is happening again. Look at the atrocities in Abu Gharib and what not. Look at the way they treat their prisoners in Guatanomo Bay. They trained the Taliban to fight the Soviets. They pul Ayotallah in Iran. They put put people like Pinochet into power who killed tens of thousands. Their Prince^W President is the "friend" of the Saudi Royal family. They preach values? Get over this - America and Americans have no values.

They pretend and they pretend well. They're all just a bunch of hypocrites. Notice how much the people whine all over the place, but yet none of their policies change.

Take the topic under discussion - India is a peaceful democracy with a flourishing economy and Pakistan is an Islamic military dictatorship, and yet the USA does not want India to be elected to the UN - why? So that Pakistan is appeased.

Do not bother, America and Americans do not care. They are too used to their comforts and their hypocrisy runs so deep that the rest of the world is quite disgusted. Their civil liberties are being trampled, they're fucking over the rest of the world and pissing off a lot of people.

Remembe - even Rome fell.

Re:This is a non-story

[Sesostris III]

Ho hum! If you look at the IP-Wars.net article (linked to in the main /. article), you will see that Al Petrofsky mentions his site at scofacts.org.

If you look at the Groklaw.net article (linked to in the main /. article), you will see (on the first line) it links to a PDF at ... scofacts.org!

Al Petrofsky might be considered a troll on Groklaw, but this doesn't stop Groklaw from using his material.

And this doesn't matter. Why ... because, in reality, we are all on the same side!

Hope this helps

Sesostris III

I wonder...

[THESuperShawn]

When DirecTV did a similar (but more aggressive) blanket (and mostly claim-less) lawsuit against supposed "pirates", asking (demanding?)for a "settlement" to avoid legal action, it only took one "win" for the little guys to basically cease DirecTV's actions.

I am not a lawyer (but I know a few good jokes about them), but would a "win" against SCO basically kill off their entire case? If DC "wins" (or the case is dismissed), does that mean SCO's claims of licensing fees are over? And if that happens, can the few who actually paid SCO "licensing" fees get a refund?

Nice variety of sources

[sphealey]

Kudos to the author for using a variety of source sites. I count Grokkaw [groklaw.net], SCOfacts [scofacts.org], and ip-wars [ip-wars.net] at a minimum. This is an excellent diversity of sources and points to a healthy community of discussion.

sPh

Please attack the arguement, not the man

[walterbyrd]

You said:

'Petrovsky's "analysis" is weak and off-base, as usual.'

Okay, please be specific about where and how the arguement is "off base" and "weak." I don't care who considers Pertrovsky a troll. I want specific facts.

Thank you for your reply.

For someone...

[mrscott]

As an American that did NOT vote for GW Bush and as an American that does NOT like the direction our country is headed, particularly with respect to what we're doing around the world, I have to say that I don't like your comment. I think it would have been fine if you hadn't included that part about "And *YET* the moment you bring this up, some USian will come up and pretend that they care." Guess what? Some of us do. Just slightly under 1/2 of us do care, according to the results of a national poll we had a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, the so-called "moral majority" got out the vote.

It's too bad that people can get up on their soapbox like the parent post, but can't do so under their own names.

Re:Fall of SCO

[Anonymous Coward]

Penny Arcade [penny-arcade.com]

This should explain everything.

Re:Fall of SCO

[HiThere]

But it probably *IS* already BSD licensed. (And most of it is also already GPL licensed.)

So far there's no evidence of any more bones than a jellyfish.