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3D Biometric Facial Recognition Comes To UK 157

Roland Piquepaille writes "In the UK, where the recent Queen's speech about national identity cards generated lots of -- mostly negative -- coverage, another potentially invasive technology is being tested with very few criticism. For example, several police departments are now testing a 3D biometric facial recognition software from Aurora, a company based near Northampton. The use of facial recognition 'is rapidly becoming the third forensic science alongside fingerprints and DNA,' according to a police officer who talked to BBC News for 'How your face could open doors.'" (More below.)
"The company claims its software is so sophisticated it can make the distinction between identical twins. And if the civil liberties groups continue to be neutral, this technology could also be deployed in airports or by private companies. Even banks are thinking to put cameras in their ATM machines to identify you. The good thing is that you will not have to remember your PIN. On the other hand, as with every new technology, is it safe for your privacy and is it possible to hack the system? Read more before making your decision."
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3D Biometric Facial Recognition Comes To UK

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  • Virtual ID card (Score:5, Insightful)

    by tetromino ( 807969 ) on Sunday November 28, 2004 @06:21AM (#10936313)
    If this technology is as good as Aurora claims, it can be used to implement a virtual ID card - just scan someone's face, and you can bring up their info from a database, no need for them to carry a piece of plastic around.

    Obviously that's a privacy concern - but how can you regulate face recognition? It's fundamentally no different from having a live cop recognize your mug.
  • Bad day (Score:5, Insightful)

    by snotman88 ( 829679 ) on Sunday November 28, 2004 @06:36AM (#10936339) Journal
    The problem with face recognition is that faces change. If you get a black eye from some fist fight, the computer won't recognize you. Children going through puberty can look completely different in a matter of months. What if you're wearing huge-ass sunglasses? What if you grow a beard? Will you not be able to ID yourself if you are wearing an eye-bandage?
  • foolproof (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Random_Goblin ( 781985 ) on Sunday November 28, 2004 @06:42AM (#10936353)
    I'm a bit concerned about the claims and assumtions regarding the "foolproof" nature of this technology.

    Aurora say that they have a zero failure rate, but this is not proof on the "uniqueness" of their identification.

    New technology like this very quickly becomes "magic" to the general public and the end users, and there is indeed a difference in the computer recognising your face vs a live cop... the computer is more likely to be assumed to be infallible
  • by jocks ( 56885 ) on Sunday November 28, 2004 @07:27AM (#10936444) Homepage
    It is geneally agreed that the latest Queen's speech (which is a speech made by the Queen using a script given to her by the incumbent government of the day) was a feeble affair which did little to reassure an already pissed off public.

    The current Labout government run by T. Blair is generally seen to be scaremonegering over things like terrorism and crime to justify a new raft of draconian measures. Each one of these measures has been a cynical attempt to limit liberty within the UK. There has already been a government funded surevey judgning the "peoples" attitude towards ID cards which, according to the government, showed an overwhelming support for the scheme. Until, of course, it was discovered that the survey was far from impartial and the sample group was so small as to be non-representative.

    Technology aside I fear for my children's liberty, they are already unable to do the stuff I used to do as a child - like blow things up with home made gunpowder, whittle wood with a knife (yes knives are soon to be banned in this moronic country) and when they get older they won't be able to smoke a cigarette (yep, smoking is banned too).

    No, don't be lured by the technology, this is a bad thing. I hope my American cousin's don't let the president push them into accepting a loss of liberty in the name of some ficticious threat. It looks like this country is starting to fall foul of the lie that is "The war on terror"
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28, 2004 @07:50AM (#10936492)
    The current Labout government run by T. Blair is generally seen to be scaremonegering over things like terrorism and crime to justify a new raft of draconian measures. Each one of these measures has been a cynical attempt to limit liberty within the UK.

    So, Blair is pretty much like the other founders of the "Coalition of the Willing" (George Bush and John Howard). It seems strange that the leaders of the historically "most free" nations are all trampling over liberty now, while the Germans and Eastern European nations complain.
  • by Sexy Bern ( 596779 ) on Sunday November 28, 2004 @07:54AM (#10936502)
    I'd go along with it being convenient, but saving time??

    What are you going to do with all the accumulated time that you save? You can't exactly tack it on to the end of your life and enjoy a few more weeks!

    And no, I'm not having a go at you, just everything that claims to save us time. Most people seem to waste their spare time watching shitty soaps or sitcoms or reality TV (or reading slashdot :D)

  • Facial similarity (Score:1, Insightful)

    by ljubom ( 147499 ) on Sunday November 28, 2004 @09:28AM (#10936739)
    What about following scenario: Somebody commit a crime, but he is not in the database. You look similar, thus in "search engine" you will have a high position. There are witnesses, but you look similar (you know, it was night, fog, but it could be...), and computer says it's you. Bingo!
  • Re:Virtual ID card (Score:2, Insightful)

    by mrogers ( 85392 ) on Sunday November 28, 2004 @09:35AM (#10936754)
    An ID database in which you can generate a new identity by shaving is not a very useful ID database.
  • Re:foolproof (Score:4, Insightful)

    by owlstead ( 636356 ) on Sunday November 28, 2004 @10:08AM (#10936835)
    You should not believe any claims that have such high numbers of success. Currently no facial recognition program can offer that. It's even the question if fingerprint identification has such high success rates though they will be undoubtedly be higher.

    The question is if this is enough not to deploy biometrics. First of all, do you use it for authentication (passport) or identification (crowd scanning, door opening). The latter is a lot more difficult. Then there is the question if you accept the odd failure, and plan for it. For instance if you fail to authenticate at airport, there could be a separate line manned by humans. Unfortunately, the 1% will not be spread equally, some people might be unlucky a high percentage of the time.

    Another problem that I've not mentioned is that there is a balance between false positives and false negatives. That is the difference between other persons being identified as you, and you not being identified. Most of the time there is a (delicate) balance between the two.

    That's the problem with biometrics. You cannot just say if a certain failure rate is acceptable - it all depends on the parameters of the system you are using it in.
  • Yawn (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Syberghost ( 10557 ) <syberghost@syber ... S.com minus poet> on Sunday November 28, 2004 @10:23AM (#10936892)
    UK police departments have been using 3D biometric facial recognition since the day they first opened their doors. All they're doing now is supplementing expensive trained officers with cheaper new tools.

    Seriously, if you people are technophobes on this level, you should log off right now and sell your computer. You can probably use the money to buy enough wood to build a shack in the mountains somewhere.

    Oh, wait, you'd never survive that way; you're probably a hoplophobe, too.
  • by Ian.Waring ( 591380 ) on Sunday November 28, 2004 @11:08AM (#10937071) Homepage
    I once chaired a security meeting at a large UK telco, and was seated in a chair with a grandstand view of a device that let people into a very secure area of the building if they allowed it to examine their iris.

    Seemed to work impressively until three people showed up at the door, one spied into the iris reader, door opened and the other two just tailgated through.

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