Microsoft Patents The Body Bus 508
Mz6 writes "Microsoft has been awarded a patent for using
human skin as a power conduit and data bus. Patent No.
6,754,472, which was published Tuesday, describes a method for transmitting power and data to devices worn on the body and for communication of data between those devices. In its filing, Microsoft cites the proliferation of wearable electronic devices, such as wristwatches, pagers, PDAs (worn on people's belts) and small displays that can now be mounted on headgear. "As a result of carrying multiple portable electronic devices, there is often a significant amount of redundancy in terms of input/output devices included in the portable devices used by a single person," says the filing. "For example, a watch, pager, PDA and radio may all include a speaker." To reduce the redundancy of input/output devices, Microsoft's patent proposes a personal area network that allows a single data input or output device to be used by multiple portable devices." (What about DoCoMo's research in this area?)
It's power not data (Score:5, Informative)
good luck MS (Score:5, Informative)
The concept of a PAN first was developed by Thomas Zimmerman and other researchers at M.I.T.'s Media Lab and later supported by IBM's Almaden research lab.
sorry but MIT and IBM is way ahead of Microsoft in this with prior art.
hell I made a example prototype from the information I recieved from mister Zimmerman back in 1997 for playing around with PAN's when i was heavy into the wearable computing research.
Microsoft, what Idea can we steal today?
IBM did this years ago. (Score:4, Informative)
I remember IBM had a demo product that would exchange virtual business cards via a handshake - it might well have been a plug-in to a Palm Pilot They theorized max xfer at 2400bps at the time - this was 1996-7 or so. Still looking for the link.
My thoughts exactly. (Score:5, Informative)
I guess Kevin Warwick [kevinwarwick.com] will enjoy the prospect of the Personal Area Network as described above, though. Now if only we could find a way to embed these devices directly into the skin and/or find a way to connect the input jacks directly into our brains...
(For those who don't know, Kevin Warwick is Professor of Cybernetics at Reading University, and performed an experiment on himself by implanting a tracking device into his arm, which allowed computers to determine which room he was in, and make judgements based on his position).
Re:IBM did this years ago. (Score:5, Informative)
Found it.
It was an IBM researcher by the name of Tom Zimmerman who created a "Personal Area Network", back in 1996: Personal Area Networks (PAN): A Technology Demonstration by IBM Research [ibm.com].
Looks and sounds a lot like what MSFT just patented.
Re:Does this work??? (Score:5, Informative)
Lots of Prior Art (Score:3, Informative)
No -- It's power AND data (Score:5, Informative)
Yet at this web site, http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user/pan/pan.html, there is a white paper (dated November 18-19, 1996) where IBM demonstrates their "new Personal Area Network technology that uses the natural electrical conductivity of the human body to transmit electronic data".
So, IBM demonstrated similar techniques back in 1996 that used the natural electrical conductivity to transmit data.
However, Microsoft's claims focus on power, and frequency adjustments, this is basis for their ability to send data.
One of Microsoft's claims states "modulating an information signal transmitted" using this signal; yet, in the IBM white paper it states that "The natural salinity of the human body makes it an excellent conductor of electrical current. PAN technology takes advantage of this conductivity by creating an external electric field that passes an incredibly tiny current through the body, over which data is carried."
My gut says that many of MS's claims are voided by prior art -- but one would need to study the MS claims in detail, and compare it to DoCoMo's and IBM's research on the subject, to make a truly educated rebuttal.
Re:This might be valid (Score:5, Informative)
Re:IBM did this years ago. (Score:3, Informative)
Well, in the patent they cite:
"Personal Area Networks: Near-field intrabody communication"; IBM Systems Journal, vol. 35, No. 3&4, 1996 --MIT Media Lab, 11 pages.
so I assume that the patent adds something to what was done at IBM.
Re:good luck MS (Score:5, Informative)
if they weren't trying to sneak the data stuff in there I would not have a problem with it, but they are trying to submarine the PAN data technology into their own patent.
strip out everything to do with data and I'll love the fact they have a patent on a new idea.
And this is insightful how? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:good luck MS (Score:5, Informative)
5796827 [uspto.gov] which is IBM's for the hand-shake data transfer.
6104913 [uspto.gov] IBM's PAN
and
6211799 [uspto.gov] MIT's on power/data transmission over the body.
Obviously they are building on previous patents, and have come up with an enhancement.
Or the patent office just rubber stamped it
IBM also has prior art... (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user/pan/pan. html
1995 Wired Article: The Body Bus (Score:3, Informative)
Tom Zimmerman has shown that the noncontact coupling between your body and weak electric fields can be used to create and sense tiny nano-amp currents in your body. Modulating these signals creates Body Net, a personal-area network that communicates through your skin.
Re:My thoughts exactly. (Score:5, Informative)
The folks over at El Reg are bigs fans of him
Prior Art? (Score:2, Informative)
Power Transmission (Score:3, Informative)
Re:This might be valid (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Wrong icon (Score:0, Informative)
(-1 Redundant)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=112081&cid=
slashdot needs years on their date stamps... (Score:5, Informative)
In this case, it looks like this one was 2002 (the other option is an unlikely 1996), which is 2 years after MS filed their patent.
I'm lazy.. I hate having to use cal(1) to figure this out.
Re:good luck MS (Score:2, Informative)
I sort of missed out on all the PAN research myself becouse I was focused on the step power generator created to power wearables.
Now how do you suppose they get all that power from the foot to the head? I didn't see any wires leading down the leg in the prototype.
I found the whole talk of power distrabution to be boring so I phased it out. Someone else might know.
Re:This might be valid (Score:1, Informative)
Seen it before, in 1996. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:And in other news.... (Score:3, Informative)
It would be R=E/I
where
(R)esistance is expressed in Ohms
(E)lectrical Potential is expressed in Volts
(I)Current is expressed in Amperes
Don't apply the units until you actually make the calculation.
At least, that's what they taught me in my military electronics training, way back when.
Re:And in other news.... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:No -- It's power AND data (Score:3, Informative)
Already done by MIT almost ten years ago (Score:1, Informative)
In that issue, this very idea was the focal point of an entire article, and it showed pictures of working prototypes, including the exhange of electronic "busines cards" via the bioelectic fields of two people shaking hands.
I find it very hard to believe that neither of MIT or IBM have not already patented this, and if they haven't, there is definite, published even, prior art.
Did the Patent office not even bother doing a literature search?
IBM did this back in 1996 or earlier (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user/pan/pan.html
see for yourself, this type of thing is old hat.