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  • Heh (Score:5, Funny)

    by teknokracy (660401) <teknokracy AT telus DOT net> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:36PM (#9475371)
    Not my version of the album....
    • Re:Heh (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:06PM (#9475577)
      Heh. Not on my tux-wearing platform. ;)
      • by John Biggabooty (591838) on Sunday June 20, 2004 @01:37AM (#9476788)
        To find out if this is true, borrow the disc from some sucker who actually bought it, and can't use it. By all means do not buy it yourself.

        In the 1980s. The software industry tried all this copy control nonsense with Commodore 64 software. Many companies did not survive the backlash. The record labels will not learn until everyone stops buying. [dontbuycds.org] Any business that alienates their customers deserves to fail. Vote with your pocket books. Stop feeding the hand that bites you.

    • Re:Heh (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Build6 (164888) on Sunday June 20, 2004 @02:05AM (#9476857)
      It's a little ironic that it's being done with a Beastie Boys album. Historically the primary "copyright", or "theft" issue with songs is sampling.

      They were hit in the past for sampling from AC/DC's song "Back in Black" for their 1985 single "Rock Hard", which was supposed to appear in their "best of" anthology release, but couldn't because AC/DC refused them permission to sample. It seems a little incongruous for them to be shipping out DRM also.

      • Re:Heh (Score:5, Insightful)

        by NonSequor (230139) on Sunday June 20, 2004 @09:10AM (#9477670) Journal
        What some people don't realize is that sampling is part of a very old tradition. Many jazz and classical compositions have been enriched by incorporating material from other sources. Often the borrowed material is just as recognizeable as a sampled song, so it's not like this is something that has been hidden.

        This practice is in many ways similar to allusion in literature. By making reference to earlier works, one can enhance the depth of one's own work. Ezra Pound said, "Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal" and this statement can be generalized to all forms of art.
        • Re:Heh (Score:5, Insightful)

          by atrizzah (532135) on Sunday June 20, 2004 @09:56AM (#9477775)
          What people don't also realize is that song swapping is an old tradition, which helps keep old groups alive and helps new groups become more popular through word of mouth. I would say that literally the majority of the classic rock and underground songs that I listen to, I would never have known about if it wasn't for the fact that I could give a group a try by downloading MP3's. Then provided that I KNOW that I'm getting more than a couple good tracks, I buy the CD to support the group
        • Re:Heh (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Grym (725290) on Sunday June 20, 2004 @11:10AM (#9477947)

          What some people don't realize is that sampling is part of a very old tradition. Many jazz and classical compositions have been enriched by incorporating material from other sources. Often the borrowed material is just as recognizeable as a sampled song, so it's not like this is something that has been hidden.

          This practice is in many ways similar to allusion in literature. By making reference to earlier works, one can enhance the depth of one's own work. Ezra Pound said, "Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal" and this statement can be generalized to all forms of art.

          ... which completely undermines the use of copyrights and "intellectual property" in the arts in the first place. Think about it: Much of the idea of the copyright revolves around this notion that men are completely unaffected by previous works--as if their art is somehow independently conjured through the power of the artist's superior intellect.

          What bullshit. No man is quite literally an island. We are all affected and shaped, by our language, culture, body of sciences, collection of arts and so on. To say that the artist is the sole "owner" of the resultant art is utterly insulting and ultimately counterproductive.

          -Grym

  • Illegal? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:38PM (#9475380)
    I was under the impression that installing software on the user's computer without asking is illegal?
    • Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Informative)

      by teknokracy (660401) <teknokracy AT telus DOT net> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:41PM (#9475408)
      When one goes in-depth into the "end user license agreement" that we all say "I agree" to, it becomes apparent that you actually do warrant them to install such an application. I'd imagine it would be part of the liner notes, interactive software related agreement, or perhaps even just a simple "look on this site to see the license agreement" blurb.
      • Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Informative)

        by DarkMantle (784415) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:52PM (#9475494) Homepage

        Two words...

        Spy-Ware

        That said, if it's a stardard EXE I don't see how it would run on linux. [linux.com] :D And since Linux doesn't have an autorun annoyance... I mean feature, we'd have to consciously install it.

        Once again, the solution is... Don't use M$ Windows [microsoft.com]. (Sorry Mac people, I have had no recent experience with a Mac to make a comment on it.

        • Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Funny)

          by JPriest (547211) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @11:09PM (#9476256) Homepage
          With Linux it won't install the DRM, but it won't make any difference because because your sound card does not work with Linux anyway.
          • Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Interesting)

            by cyborch (524661) on Sunday June 20, 2004 @06:38AM (#9477356) Homepage Journal
            That would have been funnier if it was remotely true. What could happen (and what I have had happen to me previously) was that the DRM protected media is unplayable without the DRM malware, for instance I am unable to view the one e-book I bought without a wandows installation, and sadly the book didn't come with a windows license. IMHO it would have been appropriate to ship a windows license along with e-books since it's needed to read it.
      • Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Epistax (544591) <epistax@gmail.LIONcom minus cat> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:36PM (#9475753) Journal
        I really do hope the courts do something about this passive signing away of your rights. I call it passive because the agreements define for themselves what agreeing to them means, so they are by nature fraudulent. So buying a product is a legal signature? So is opening a CD case, or installing software? They can put all the "Read the EULA"'s they want, but I don't see how any specific number of warnings suddenly merits compliance by law.

        By reading this you acknowledge my right to use your computer to research how better to write future comments. Oh yeah you have to give me your stuff too if you break our agreement. By reading this sentence you have broken our agreement. The next bag of potato chips you open signifies your compliance to turn over all properties that can be used to drink out of.
      • Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Funny)

        by deacon (40533) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:40PM (#9475771) Journal
        ... becomes apparent that you actually do warrant them to install such an application. I'd imagine it would be part of the liner notes...

        Well that seems fair.

        When you read this reply to your post, you have agreed to put all your money in a paper bag, put your underwear on your head if it is not already there, slather yourself with Marmite, and run naked down the center of the street throwing your money to passers-by.

        That is all.

    • Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Informative)

      by xigxag (167441) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:51PM (#9475484)
      Illegal in the US, you mean?

      One of the comments in the cited links says that the copy protection is only for discs sold outside the US and UK.

      • Re:Illegal? (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Martix (722774) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:26PM (#9475698)
        Its also being sold in Canada as well.

        as far as i can say is you install something on my computer or network you need to beaten and left for the flies to eat.. if you dont let me know and give me an opt out...to me this a virus because its on my machine with out my permission.

        I ask the store clerk about the protection i got a blank stare. like a deer in the head lights.

        I also told them why .... I will not buy DRM ..TCPA....Copy controlled disks...ect

        Funny thing is there is also a new Meat Loaf album as well for sale i told the clerk the store has lost a sale.....

        To date there have been 6 CD'S i wanted to by but there protected as well thats 6 sales lost ...Way to go morons.

        so as this carries on i guess i will stop buying music ....or use my expensive studio gear to record it and strip the crap off ;)

        So i can use my car deck mp3 player ect. or were i feel i want to listen to my music.

        I dont mind buying to suport the artists but protection systems are a waste of money then anything else and shooting them selves in the foot to boot

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:38PM (#9475384)
    Your freedom and your privacy are what I expect!
  • Beasties (Score:4, Interesting)

    by qewl (671495) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:38PM (#9475385)
    That's not cool. Makes me kinda wonder why they put out this album anyway ($$$?).. I love their old stuff but I'm not sure their old passion was really in this work anyway.
    • Re:Beasties (Score:5, Funny)

      by E_elven (600520) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:17PM (#9475650) Journal
      Record exec: We decided to give your music away for free, guys. We'll still pay you $50 million, though.
      Beasties: Hell no, dude. We DEMAND you put some evil copy protection on the album!
      Record exec: Isn't that horribly unfair towards the customers, guys? Come on, have a heart.
      Beasties: Oh yeah? Well fuck you, fat Record Exec. We've got the right to party! *BLAWW* *BLAWW* *BLAWW*
      Record exec: *Aaaargh* Oooooverrr my deaaaad boddyyyyyy... custooooemmueua *AAAARGH* cstmrrrrs muuust beee pa... pah.... pahmpppered.. *groan*
      Beasties: *Urinate on the dead Record Exec and offer a sacrifice to Satan*
  • Control (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Ms.XingTianCai (785422) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:38PM (#9475389)
    It's hard to believe that a band that has prided itself on pushing the envelope and being controversial would do something like this. These people obviousle cared enough to buy the CD, why would the record industry need to protect themselves from them? It's just another way for them to control what we can and cannot do, thereby infringing on my rights. When I can't even listen to my music without worrying about what programs may be being installed on my computer, we've let them go too far.
    • Re:Control (Score:5, Insightful)

      by bersl2 (689221) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:41PM (#9475403) Journal
      I don't think this would be the artists' call to put copy protection on the CD.
      • Re:Control (Score:5, Insightful)

        by mriker (571666) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:49PM (#9475468)
        Maybe, but the artists have a choice in who distributes their music.
        • Re:Control (Score:5, Insightful)

          by NegativeK (547688) <tekarien@NoSpam.hotmail.com> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @10:54PM (#9476173) Homepage
          Maybe, but the artists have a choice in who distributes their music.

          Why is this modded funny? Just sitting here, I've imagined ways of them getting out of their contracts. Of course, I'm imagining that the Beastie Boys are rich, which can't be too far of a stretch. How? Simple.
          1) Release crap albums until their contract runs out.
          2) Make sure everyone knows _why_ you're releasing crap albums. Make public press releases about why you're doing it. If your contract prohibits that, then make private statements.
          3) In all likelihood, the contract would be ended early by the RIAA. If not, it isn't hard to live on a million for the next few years or so, until the contract runs out on its own.
          4) Release on an independent record label. Aphex Twin has a successful one. Paul Van Dyk is doing fine on his record label. The Beastie Boys have the clout to do it.
          5) Profit. Again.

          Where there's a will, there's a way. That's a way. The Beastie Boys just don't have the will.
    • by AltGrendel (175092) <ag-slashdotNO@SPAMexit0.us> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:55PM (#9475515) Homepage
      The new Velvet Revolver does the same thing. It has a CD driver that is silently installed whether you accept the "EULA" or not. The only way around this (for Windows users) is to turn off auto start. I'm trying to get my SCSI CDRW running on my Linux system to see if it's prodected there.

      And even if you do get round the protection, the burner software may check for "Proper Licensing" anyway. I know MusicMatch does.

      • You could also (Score:5, Interesting)

        by autopr0n (534291) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:52PM (#9475843) Homepage Journal
        not run as administrator, that way they wouldn't be able to 'install' anything. Nor could any holes in IE, general spyware, etc.
  • by chrispyman (710460) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:39PM (#9475390)
    Technically, if your product silently installs software without the users knowledge, wouldn't that put it in the same league as spyware, as defined by some of the more recent bills passing through Congress?
    • by SamNmaX (613567) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @11:14PM (#9476283)
      Technically, if your product silently installs software without the users knowledge, wouldn't that put it in the same league as spyware, as defined by some of the more recent bills passing through Congress?

      Even though this may be technically spyware, it could also be technically illegal to remove due the DMCA. So basically, you put a cd with this type of crap on it, and since it's goal is copy-protection, anything that could get around it, including say, the ability to remove it if it attempts to stick on your system like a virus, could very well be considerred 'circumvension'. I'd be curious to see how such an argument would hold up in court.

  • DRM for what? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Hello Spaceman (739648) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:39PM (#9475394)

    I bought "To The 5 Boroughs" (cause I'm representin' Manhattan), and ripped all the tracks to my iPod with no problems. Just what does the DRM code do?

    I'm on a Mac, is this another case where I'm missing out on the DRM fun because of platform neglect? (There IS a Mac partition on the disc, but all it seems to have on it is a Macromedia presentation with a QuickTime movie.)

  • by dealsites (746817) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:39PM (#9475395) Homepage
    What about fighting for your right to party??? Music makes the party. They are selling out these days.

    --
    7 Gmail accounts still availiable [dealsites.net]
    • by DesScorp (410532) <DesScorp@G m a i l.com> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:50PM (#9475830) Homepage Journal
      They're entertainers. Revolution was never their intent. MONEY is their intent. All rock bands want to get rich and famous once they get signed. If they can flaunt their politics and change the world along the way, hey, that's cool. But those checks had better keep coming. Anyone that thinks that this isn't the aim of almost all bands from the start are fools. And please, use John Lennon as an example. Paul McCartney has said that during songwriting, Lennon would say things like "Cool, I've got a boat, now let's write a Pool" when penning new songs.

      There's no such thing as a band "selling out". That's naive bullshit. They're an entertainment act, created to make lots of money. Period. They preach the revolution, because they know you guys will pony up your cash and buy into it. It sells records.
  • by kxmas (774156) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:39PM (#9475396)
    I didn't notice anything wrong with the version that I downloaded off the newsgroups.
  • by orkysoft (93727) <orkysoftNO@SPAMmyrealbox.com> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:40PM (#9475399) Journal
    Yo Bender wanna make some noise
    Get your harddrive scratched by the Beastie Boys!
  • by chronicon (625367) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:42PM (#9475414) Homepage
    I'm sure the RIAA said it was OK. Get over it. Besides, I sure if you gave the Hon. Senator Orrin Hatch a call he would help clarify the importance of the issue. You'd just have to get past the "Beastie who??" questions first...
  • by jgerry (14280) * <jason.gerry@[ ]il.com ['gma' in gap]> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:42PM (#9475415) Homepage
    Grrrr!!!

    I just bought this CD, the first CD I've bought in over 2 years. A friend told me I could copy hers, but I said no, I want to pay for it. $10 at Worst Buy.

    It did rip fine though, no problems there. DRM-free mp3s work fine.
  • should be a law (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ch-chuck (9622) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:44PM (#9475428) Homepage
    it should be flat out illegal for anybody to install software on someone elses computer w/o the owners written permission - that goes for spyware, virus, marketing research firms, even Microsoft, and this. Just because you're network connected or pop in a CD doesn't give everybody and his brother the right to take over part of your machine in ANY way. It's so bizarre that govt. enforces access rights for govt business and military machines but personal home computers, pfft, it's like an open free for all.
  • Sabotage (Score:4, Funny)

    by The Ape With No Name (213531) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:46PM (#9475442) Homepage
    Well, someone had to come up with a "it's part of their plan" post.

    Sabotage (Ill Communication)

    I Can't Stand It I Know You Planned It
    I'm Gonna Set It Straight, This Watergate
    I Can't Stand Rocking When I'm In Here
    Because Your Crystal Ball Ain't So Crystal Clear
    So While You Sit Back and Wonder Why
    I Got This Fucking Thorn In My Side
    Oh My, It's A Mirage
    I'm Tellin' Y'all It's Sabotage

    So Listen Up 'Cause You Can't Say Nothin'
    You'll Shut Me Down With A Push Of Your Button?
    But Yo I'm Out And I'm Gone
    I'll Tell You Now I Keep It On And On

    'Cause What You See You Might Not Get
    And We Can Bet So Don't You Get Souped Yet
    You're Scheming On A Thing That's A Mirage
    I'm Trying To Tell You Now It's Sabotage

    Whyyy; Our Backs Are Now Against The Wall
    Listen All Of Y'all It's A Sabotage
    Listen All Of Y'all It's A Sabotage
    Listen All Of Y'all It's A Sabotage
    Listen All Of Y'all It's A Sabotage

    I Can't Stand It, I Know You Planned It
    But I'm Gonna Set It Straight This Watergate
    But I Can't Stand Rockin' When I'm In This Place
    Because I Feel Disgrace Because You're All In My Face
    But Make No Mistakes And Switch Up My Channel
    I'm Buddy Rich When I Fly Off The Handle
    What Could It Be, It's A Mirage
    You're Scheming On A Thing - That's Sabotage
  • by lovecult (682522) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:46PM (#9475444)

    To quote from
    http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/11/new_beasties_ disc_ha.html

    Update: Ian sez, "Hi, I'm not sure who posted re: Beastie Boys copy protection, but I just spoke with Mike D and their management and they wanted me to pass along that a) This is all territories except the US and UK -- US and UK discs do not have this protection on them; b) All EMI CDs are treated this way, theirs isn't receiving special treatment; c) They would have preferred not to have the copy protection, but weren't allowed to differ from EMI policy."
  • by neonstz (79215) * on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:47PM (#9475451) Homepage

    You gotta fight for your right to copy!

    • by miracle69 (34841) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:05PM (#9475568)
      You bought a new CD - man you don't wanna know
      You go to your PC it says "no go"
      Loaded DRM - your machine won't work
      But the Beasties don't tell you like you're some kind of jerk.

      You gotta fight for your right to copy

      The Boys caught your sampling and they said "No Way"
      Those hypocrites - use samples every day.
      Man, del-ing this is such a drag
      Now your idols tossed all their cred in the bag.

      You gotta fight for your right to copy!

      Don't you buy our CD if you expect to have a hear.
      Cause our DRM won't let you play it through the air.
      Your PC busted and you said "Where's my noise?"
      Aw, man, it won't play cause it's the Beastie Boys.
  • by Dimensio (311070) <darkstar.iglou@com> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:49PM (#9475466)
    Wasn't there an article many months (years?) ago about how to circumvent this kind of thing by holding "shift" as you insert the disc? Yes, that's a Windows-only solution, but I don't see this kind of problem affecting Macs or Linux machines.

    Wait, is mentioning that little workaround considered a DMCA violation?
  • by Kope (11702) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:49PM (#9475471)
    I personally hope that a CD I buy installs something on my computer. Really. 'Cuase I'm walking into the DA's office and demanding prosecution under 609.88 the next day. And as a highly paid professional, I know I can bill my time that any 10 second problem will turn into the maximum allowable penalty pretty darn quick...

    609.88 Computer damage.

    Subdivision 1. Acts. Whoever does any of the following is guilty of computer damage and may be sentenced as provided in subdivision 2:

    (b) intentionally and without authorization or with intent to injure or defraud alters any computer, computer system, computer network, computer software, or any other property specifically defined in section 609.87, subdivision 6;

    Subd. 2. Penalty. Whoever commits computer damage may be sentenced as follows:

    (a) To imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $50,000, or both, if the damage, destruction or alteration results in a loss in excess of $2,500, to the owner, or the owner's agent, or lessee;

    (b) To imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both, if the damage, destruction or alteration results in a loss of more than $500, but not more than $2,500 to the owner, or the owner's agent or lessee; or

    (c) In all other cases to imprisonment for not more than 90 days or to payment of a fine of not more than $700, or both.

  • by Sycraft-fu (314770) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:50PM (#9475480)
    This is one of the reasons to disable autorunning of CDs. It's nice yes, but really, it's not a big deal to take the extra step to go to the CD and run setp. Since this sort of game of actually installing software without asking seems to be getting popular, it's a good rpeventitive step.

    To shut it off, open your registry editor and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Cdrom and set the Autorun value to 0. You cal also download TweakUI from Microsoft (go to Microsoft.com and search for TweakUI) which will change the key for you, as well as altering other behaviour.

    When you do this, Windows will no longer popup and do anything when you put a disk in. Instead, it will wait for you to do something. For normal data disks, this means you'll have to go run setup yourself. For evil audio disks such as this, they'll simply never install their BS and you can play as normal.
  • by dvduval (774940) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @08:54PM (#9475512)
    I don't think I'll ch-ch-ch-check...check it out! Cause DRM's what it's all about!
  • by Kenshin (43036) <kenshin&lunarworks,ca> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:07PM (#9475580) Homepage
    I won a copy of the CD last night at a bar.

    When I saw the "Copyright Control" logo on it, I held down shift when I put it into my drive. That was a good plan, because I explored the CD and found all that CRM crapola in the autorun file.

    Ripped it with iTunes. It ripped fine, but VERY slowly. (2x, compared to the usual 16x.)
  • by cetialphav (246516) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:08PM (#9475594)
    This is just another example of why Linux is not ready for the desktop. I should be able to buy this CD and put it in my Linux box and NOT be able to rip it just like on Windows. Until Linux can run all of my important software (DRM controls, Kazaa, Gator, Sobig virus, and various spyware), I'll just stick with windows.

    Seriously, this is just stupid. I would guess that most pirated MP3s that are being shared out there have been downloaded from someone else, not ripped from the original CD. So it really only takes a few people with either a linux box or enough sense to turn of autorun on their CD drive to be able to spread pirated MP3s all over the world. This can't possibly stop anything and will likely piss off the people that are supposed to be customers.
  • by MuMart (537836) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:10PM (#9475610) Homepage
    I predict that the next versions of CD recording software will bundle their own hardware-banging IDE/ATAPI drivers to get around tricks like these.

    It's a simple fact that people expect to be able copy their CDs.

  • Autorun on Mac OS? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Writer (746272) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:13PM (#9475624)

    Quotes from the story links...

    "It seems that Capitol Records has some sort of new copy protection system, that automatically, silently, installs "helpful" copy protection software on MacOS and Windows as soon as you insert the CD into default systems."

    "They include some sort of uninstaller buried on there for Windows, but I see no such thing for MacOS."

    I've never heard of something like the "autorun" feature for Mac OS. Is there one? Or was the person who wrote this unfamiliar with Mac OS and just presumed it had one?

  • TweakUI (Score:5, Informative)

    by Ryan Stortz (598060) <ryan0rz&gmail,com> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:13PM (#9475626)
    Download TweakUI from the MS Power Toys section [microsoft.com], it will let you change a slew of settings. Including disabling autorun.

    I'm also pretty sure that holding shift when you put the cd in will do the same thing.
  • by BigDish (636009) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:15PM (#9475640)
    Lately people have been prosecuted for writing a virus, well, whoever wrote this needs to be prosecuted the same way.
    1. It is malicious (prevents you from copying the CD as you noramlly would be able to.
    2. It silently installs itself, masquarading as a
    standard Audio CD (I'm sorry, 5" music disc)

    How is that different than any other trojan horse?
  • by geekoid (135745) <dadinportland@@@yahoo...com> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:39PM (#9475763) Homepage Journal
    when boys who where rebels become middle aged...

    Beastie boys my ass
  • Strange (Score:5, Interesting)

    by vandan (151516) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:52PM (#9475840) Homepage
    Tripple J ( youth national radio network in Australia ) reviewed the CD recently and said that many of their songs had political statements against the bullshit greed and right-wing idiology running rampant through the current US government.

    Strange that they are critical of their government yet side with the record companies on this issue. Maybe they don't mean what they say? Or purphaps the record company pulled this one of them without telling them?

    I certainly won't be buying it anyway. I'll add it to the not-worth-buying-but-good-download-potential list.
  • Arrogance (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Esion Modnar (632431) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:52PM (#9475848)
    Installing anything on a person's computer, without authorization, is just plain old arrogance. "But it was in the fine print of the EULA..." Fuck the EULA. There needs to be a big dialog box: "DRM to be installed. Yes/No?"

    And if they say no, the goddamned thing doesn't play, they take it back to the store and get a refund.

    What this evil corporation is saying, is: "Fuck you. We own you. We own your computer. You'll take it and like it, because protecting our digital rights trump fucking up your piece of shit from Dell, you fucking Joe Sixpack sheeple. If you don't like it call your Congresscritter. Oops, we own it, too."

  • by Barryke (772876) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:57PM (#9475872) Homepage
    The Beastie Boys [beastieboys.com] site seems to be down.. since half an hour ago actualy...

    Maybe some hackers acualy buyed the cd. and got mad.

  • drm? (Score:5, Funny)

    by BlueLines (24753) <slashdot@@@divisionbyzero...com> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @10:04PM (#9475899) Homepage
    i decided to be wary about this album when i heard the drm rumors, and i was prepared. but i can't seem to find the 'shift' button on my turntable..

  • by anubi (640541) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @10:38PM (#9476082) Journal
    That they did this.

    What bothers the hell out of me, though, is that it can be done.

    How in the world can I trust *anything* that willy-nilly follows whatever orders someone else tells *my* machine to do, leaving me powerless to override? The most surprising thing to me is that business is taking this. Do they really think only "good guys" know where the unlocked back doors to the operating system are?

    Stuff like this just convinces me further that anyone even thinking of using this kind of system in a business environment needs to have his salary and standing in his organization re-evaluated.

  • Sabotaged! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Rai (524476) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @11:23PM (#9476316) Homepage
    Sabotaged

    You can't stand it, you know I planned it
    I'm gonna set it straight, this fair use debate
    You can't copy shit when I'm in here
    Because my new CD will stop all your file shares
    So while you sit back and wonder why
    Copy protection is installed inside
    That's not a real CD, it's a mirage
    I'm tellin' y'all you've been sabotaged

    So listen up 'cause you can't copy nothin'
    I'll shut you down unless you use the shift button
    But I'm in and your MP3s are gone
    You'll never rip another one of my songs
    'Cause what you hear you might not get
    And we got legal threats so don't you pirate yet
    You're copying a thing that's a mirage
    I'm trying to tell you now you've been sabotaged

    You can't stand it, you know i planned it
    I'm gonna set it straight, the consumer rights fate
    You can't copy shit when my CD's in place
    And now you feel disgrace because I'm in your disc space
    But make no mistakes, I'll shutdown your scandal
    I'm Hilary Rosen when I fly off the handle
    No more fair use, it was all a mirage
    I'm scheming on your rights; you're sabotaged!
  • by Windcatcher (566458) on Sunday June 20, 2004 @12:06AM (#9476478)
    If I had more guts I'd call my uncle and ask him to do this, since he's a local politician and knows lots of judges. Someone should go to his local Justice of the Peace, pay his $50, and sue based on anti-hacking laws, asking the judge for an injunction blocking sale of this album anywhere in his state (or a fine of something like $100,000/day if the record companies defy the judge). Wouldn't it be a kick in the ass if EMI couldn't sell this piece of spywhere anywhere in, say, the entire COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA?
  • by X86Daddy (446356) on Sunday June 20, 2004 @01:35AM (#9476781) Journal
    And the message I get from this is:

    Do not buy this album. If I want to hear it, download it instead.

    Their instruction is just crystal clear. Yes; it sucks that Windows auto-installs crap off CDs, and yes, there's easy ways around that. But to arrive at that is to miss the point. The point is that if you don't want their DRM, don't buy the product... you can get the music for a nice $0.00, without rewarding their vile practice.

    If people in the biz are reading this, please take note: DRM offends and insults and disrespects those who you're trying to sell to. You're only getting sales from the ignorant, and I'm working to reduce their numbers by telling as many friends / family members as I can to stop buying big label music. Flat out stop. Download, buy used, or go with small, respectable labels. (I do still buy, generally direct from small artists; the rest... fuck 'em. Not a dime to the RIAA from me.)

    If you agree, you can help... simply assist as many people as you can to find alternatives to buying big label music. If people really want the latest Beastie / other-pop album, there's torrents, k-lite, etc... and the price is better. Is it wrong? Is killing in a war wrong? I'm working to destroy my enemy or change their stance here; that is the nature of war. You gotta fight... It may be company policy, but you're still sell-out bitches, Beastie Boys (and I love some of your work... oh, well).

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