Canadian Record Industry Presses ISPs in Court 247
An anonymous reader writes "'Internet service providers have neither an obligation nor, in some cases, the technical means to help the recording industry identify 29 alleged music pirates, a federal judge heard yesterday.' The article continues, 'Shaw Cable, the most defiant company among the pack, poked holes in CRIA's case and accused the music industry of planning an extended fishing expedition for the purpose of forcing individuals into costly settlements before cases ever get to trial. This is the same strategy used by sister organization the Recording Industry Association of America, lawyers argued.'"
Canada - Land of the free? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Canada - Land of the free? (Score:5, Informative)
wrong (Score:5, Informative)
So yes, we do indeed have freedom of speech, and it is protected.
Re:US legislation == world legislation, thank WTO (Score:2, Informative)
No.
Re:wrong (Score:3, Informative)
Feh! (Score:2, Informative)
Brand new law in Italy is gonna hunt down sharers (Score:4, Informative)
More info can be found here: http://punto-informatico.it/p.asp?i=47374 , but unfortunately it's all in Italian (I am waiting to find an article in english to submit the story....)
Re:-99 (flame troll) (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Canada - Land of the free? (Score:3, Informative)
Isn't that the case in the US too?
What I dont get is.. (Score:5, Informative)
I ask since...possesing copies of music you dont own, including P2P downloading is TOTALLY [cb-cda.gc.ca] LEGAL [com.com] here in canada. (first link is to the govt site explaining fair use, explaining you can copy any music, even music you dont own, as long as YOU are the one making the copy)
Fair use covers the fact that I can 100% legally borrow my friends cd's and copy them. He, on the other hand, CAN NOT make a copy for me.
So I guess Canada is not totally regressing into the USA
Copying is perfectly legal in Canada (Score:4, Informative)
However, the Internet and disks are still not considered taxable medias. Sueing peoples make no sense. What they should do, it is to trying to convince the Board to include Internet and disks in the list. And the money should go to the artists rather than to the recording industry.
Personnally, I would be willing to pay some amount for the artists, but not for the industry which seems to me always harder to justify. Dinosaurs became extincted because they were simply obsolete given the new living conditions on earth. The recording industry is simply becoming obsolete, not the artists, and I don't see any reason to perpetuate the mascarade...
Re:Why are ISP logging anyway ? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:wrong (Score:4, Informative)
That's not true. There are many examples of limitations of free speech, in both Canada and the U.S. Hate speech is only one of them. For example, it's illegal to joke about bombs in an airport, and you'd be charged for yelling "fire!" in a crowded theatre. Limitations on free speech must be shown to be reasonable and be an absolute necessity to protect individuals or groups from harm.
"Hate speech" only refers to speech that is intended to incite violence against individuals or groups. You can certainly claim that the Holocaust didn't happen (even if you'd be wrong). What you can't do is follow up with statements that Jews should be harmed for creating this "lie".
Re:Rogers? Anyone? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Copying is perfectly legal in Canada (Score:3, Informative)
So, to summarize, it doesn't matter if a medium is levied or not, you can still copy to it.
The issue is that distribution of copies is prohibited under the act, as is transmission via telecommunications. This is why downloading is legal, as there are no sections of the act that prohibit how you go about copying, while uploading is not, as there are sections that specifically prohibit the action.
Re:An (almost) happy Shaw customer (Score:2, Informative)