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Germany Muzzles SCO 349

skyryder12 writes " We have news from Germany. It seems, according to Computerworld, that SCO Group GmbH (SCO's German branch) agreed, on February 18, 2004, to an out-of-court settlement between it and Univention and will refrain from saying in Germany some things it says in the US constantly. There are four things they have agreed not to say in Germany, on pain of a fine of 10,000 euros per offense -- that's about $12,500 USD -- and one thing they can't say unless they present proof within a month of the settlement date. Story at GrokLaw"
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Germany Muzzles SCO

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  • by Xpilot ( 117961 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @09:54AM (#8428357) Homepage
    Unlike Americans who are born with the lawyer gene, Germans are born with the engineer gene. So this decision is not so surprising ;)

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 01, 2004 @09:55AM (#8428361)
    Now, if we can prove SCO / Scientology link SCO will be completely banned fro Germany.
  • by Liselle ( 684663 ) * <slashdot@NoSPAm.liselle.net> on Monday March 01, 2004 @09:55AM (#8428365) Journal
    Not only that, but it looks like their justice system has a sense of humor: SCO can't sue any Linux users except their own customers. That's comedy gold, right there. ;)
  • by the_mad_poster ( 640772 ) <shattoc@adelphia.com> on Monday March 01, 2004 @09:56AM (#8428368) Homepage Journal

    4) Finally SCO Group GmbH is prohibited to threaten to sue Linux users unless they bought SCO Linux or Caldera Linux.

    Hello, Darl? This is irony calling.

  • by Linker3000 ( 626634 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @09:57AM (#8428372) Journal
    echo any_sco_rant_de.txt > /dev/null

    Hopefully soon to be replaced with

    echo any_sco_rant_*.txt > /dev/null
  • by Lehk228 ( 705449 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @09:58AM (#8428377) Journal
    I am half German and half irish, so i do my best work under the influence;p (of whisky, not the Freebase that Darl has been on)
  • Germans... (Score:4, Funny)

    by SisyphusShrugged ( 728028 ) <meNO@SPAMigerard.com> on Monday March 01, 2004 @09:59AM (#8428384) Homepage
    First the Germans do away with Nazis, then Scientology, then SCO!!

    Seems like they are doing pretty good (At least recently...and they have a powerful Green Party!)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:01AM (#8428396)
    "Yet once again the intelligent Europeans do away with nonsense that we should have done a long time ago :)"

    The Germans tried to do this during the 1930s and 1940s, but those blasted Yanks would not let them.
  • by mattjb0010 ( 724744 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:01AM (#8428397) Homepage
    Hello, Darl? This is irony calling.

    Yeah, I'd like to take an iron to Darl too...
  • by cnb ( 146606 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:05AM (#8428422)

    I asked a couple of others who speak German to make sure this last was an accurate translation, even holding off on the story for half a day, because it still sounds a bit odd. Evidently, they can sue their own customers in Germany if they feel like it.

    Sounds like a cool twisted ploy to make them lose their two remaining german customers.

    - cnb

  • by Platinum Dragon ( 34829 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:08AM (#8428443) Journal
    Of course, when I type "uncheck Caldera", I really mean "check Caldera". Just like when SCO says "the evidence is coming Real Soon Now," they mean "Get ready for our next exciting press release, and Goddess forbid the tech nerds ever see our so-called evidence!"
  • by jkrise ( 535370 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:15AM (#8428475) Journal
    Given the amount of mis-transalation and mis-representation by SCO in this case, I think it's best the press goes with this version - SCO can sue only Caldera / SCO Linux users in Germany. That seems pretty fair in this case.

    -
  • by subjectstorm ( 708637 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:17AM (#8428485) Journal
    person: judge storm! judge storm! the people of slashdot are badly misinterpretting item 4 to mean that SCO may only sue their own customers!

    JS: mmm . . .

    person: judge storm? shouldn't we correct them?

    JS: no . . no, i'm going to allow this one.

    person: but-

    JS: SILENCE! my position is unassailable. now bring me a goblet of cheese and all 25 episodes of "Berserk". i need to do some thinking on more important matters . . . such as how that CAN'T be the LAST episode, can it?!?!? Griffith, you BASTARD!!!

  • by Salsaman ( 141471 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:22AM (#8428517) Homepage
    So you don't mind companies lying about their products ?

    Then I have some marvellous snake oil for you, which will cure every known disease. I can let you have some very cheap.

  • by Channard ( 693317 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:27AM (#8428536) Journal
    ... from the follow-up lawsuit include.

    D*ryl McBr*de

    Ly*ng Scumf*cks

    S*mpr*ni
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:35AM (#8428601)
    How do you see this as racism. I would much more be willing to be called an engineer than a lawyer.

    So would the Americans, I imagine. Hence the racism. The OP just said that 270 million people had the Lawyer Gene - is a worse slur possible?

  • by utlemming ( 654269 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:41AM (#8428641) Homepage
    Forgive me, but someone has to say it --

    "Die SCO Group"

    When I started to read the German news report, I didn't go into German mode, and was throughly entertained to read that a news organization was saying to SCO "Die." But it was just saying "The SCO..." Oh well.

  • Dear SCO (Score:5, Funny)

    by Lobo_Louie ( 545789 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:42AM (#8428649)
    Dear SCO,
    You're null unt void.

    Signed,
    Germany

  • by El ( 94934 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:49AM (#8428696)
    I didn't know weasels could be muzzled!
  • by IainMH ( 176964 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @10:51AM (#8428716)
    "Ze Germans!"
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 01, 2004 @11:15AM (#8428877)
    Any article that starts with...

    Die SCO Group...

    has got to be good!
  • Re:Finally (Score:5, Funny)

    by tomknight ( 190939 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @11:22AM (#8428950) Journal
    Havinmg misread the headline, I thought it weas some pretty strange action:

    "Germany Nuzzles SCO"

    I think it's time I went home.

    Tom.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 01, 2004 @11:27AM (#8429011)
    You forgot L*t*g*ous B*st*rds
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 01, 2004 @11:30AM (#8429051)
    > Maybe more important is that here, to the best
    > of my knowledge, all countries have more than
    > two parties. There is no lack of choice for
    > voting someone else into office, if the current
    > lot does a bad job.

    The USA also has more than 2 parties, people are just too scared to vote their conscience.

    "It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
    "You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
    "No", said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
    "Odd", said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
    "I did", said Ford. "It is."
    "So", said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
    "It honestly doesn't occur to them", said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
    "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
    "Oh yes", said Ford with a shrug, "of course".
    "But", said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
    "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in." - Douglas Adams, So long, and thanks for all the fish, chapter 36, 1984

    Homer: America, take a good look at your beloved candidates. They're nothing but hideous space reptiles. [unmasks them]
    [audience gasps in terror]
    Kodos: It's true, we are aliens. But what are you going to do about it? It's a two-party system; you have to vote for one of us.
    [murmurs]
    Man1: He's right, this is a two-party system.
    Man2: Well, I believe I'll vote for a third-party candidate.
    Kang: Go ahead, throw your vote away.
    [Kang and Kodos laugh out loud]
    [later] Marge: I don't understand why we have to build a ray gun to aim at a planet I never even heard of.
    Homer: Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. - The Simpsons, Treehouse of Horror VII

    "It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it." - Eugene Victor Debs (1855-1926)
  • by Chilles ( 79797 ) on Monday March 01, 2004 @11:35AM (#8429131)
    Rule 1) SCO Group GmbH (German branch of SCO) has agreed not to allege any more that Linux contains SCO's unlawfully acquired intellectual property.
    Rule 2) The settlement also forbids SCO from claiming that if end users are running Linux they might be liable for breaches of SCO's intellectual property.
    Rule 3) Also they cannot say that Linux is an unauthorized derivative of Unix.
    Rule 4) Finally SCO Group GmbH is prohibited to threaten to sue Linux users unless they bought SCO Linux or Caldera Linux.

    Fact 1: SCO Group GmbH get's fined EUR 10,000 if they break Rules 1 through 4.
    Fact 2: Darl mcwhatever is CEO of SCO.
    Theorem 1: SCO Group GmbH is a branch of SCO group and falls directly under SCO group.
    extrapolation 1: If Theorem 1 holds then Darl mcwhatever is part of SCO Group GmbH.
    Conclusion: If extrapolation 1 holds then SCO Group GmbH gets fined EUR 10.000 everytime Darl mcwhatever says or does anything covered by rules 1 through 4.

    Does this mean that every SCO press release now costs them an additional EUR 10.000?
    What about the sco.com website? is that a repeat offense every time someone presses refresh?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 01, 2004 @04:06PM (#8432905)
    No no you don't quite have it right.

    I have some marvellous snake oil for you, which will cure every known disease. You have already been using it as a part of your daily medicines. No, I will not tell you what it is.

    Give me $700 or I will sue you.

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