DeCSS Trade Secret Case Comes to an End - Again

DeCSS Trade Secret Case Comes to an End - Again 193

Posted by michael on Friday February 27, 2004 @06:54PM from the fat-lady-now-singing dept.

Andrew Bunner writes "We asked the courts to rule on our appeal of the DeCSS preliminary injunction (even though the DVD CCA dropped the case) and... we won! No more preliminary injunction. Here's the official ruling (pdf)." This is the last gasp of this case, which we've been following for some years now. This ruling goes into some depth analyzing the trade secret claim, gets the ruling "right", and should be helpful in future cases on similar topics.

DeCSS Trade Secret Case Comes to an End - Again

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if it doesn't fit... (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @06:55PM (#8412643)

you must acquit!

Does this mean... (Score:4, Funny)

by holizz ( 737615 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @06:56PM (#8412647) Homepage

that people can press Ctrl when they put their DRM-CDs in now?

Oh I've waited to press that key for sooo long.

Wow. (Score:5, Funny)

by JustinXB ( 756624 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @06:56PM (#8412653)

Who would have thought a simple CSS remover [pigdog.org] would create such news ;)

can i use css now? (Score:5, Funny)

by shaark78 ( 157917 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:10PM (#8412754)

Can I use Cascading Style Sheets on my websites now?

what exactly is this amazing parallel? (Score:4, Funny)

by snarkh ( 118018 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:11PM (#8412764)

They have to drink from a spittoon?

Re:A friend came up with an amazing analogy... (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:14PM (#8412784)

Okay, I did not get the point of that story at all. Obviously some people did because it is moderated up so high, so could someone please explain it.
It has to do with superstring theory and is really rather complicated, you're better off not knowing as the alternative leads to insanity.

well.. (Score:0, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:14PM (#8412787)

a. fuck you
b. fuck you one more time for good measure
c. repeat

I never appreciated this until now... (Score:5, Funny)

by IchBinDasWalross ( 720916 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:18PM (#8412807)

I have never appreciated this until I met a friend at work. Let's meet "Nikki". She's 21, works in the seafood department of a crappy grocery store (and #%$! makes more money than I do as a cashier) and makes a lot of money on the side selling all of us at work pirated DVD's. This is a Good Thing. She said, when she doesn't make rent, she burns DVD's for kids. What she used to do in the past was buy alcohol for kids under 21.

Simply put, by supporting CSS, you support underage drinking.

Re:Does this mean... (Score:5, Funny)

by AuMatar ( 183847 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:22PM (#8412842)

Oh yeah? Well he got someone to day it without actually breaking the DMCA himself. So who's the dummy now? :)

Re:does this mean (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:22PM (#8412844)

that debian distros will now be able to include working DVD players?

(Donning my asbestos underwear)

No. First, Debian distros need to work.

Re:How does the DMCA and Trade Secret Work Togethe (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:26PM (#8412872)

You just wanted to write (i.e. IE), didn't you?

You always could. (Score:5, Funny)

by Mr. Underbridge ( 666784 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:36PM (#8412938)

Can I use Cascading Style Sheets on my websites now?
Of course, and that's not what this decision was about. This was about *De*CSS, which means that you can now *remove* the style sheets from your website.
I bet there are a lot of web sites where people tried style sheets once but then realized it was illegal to remove them.

wowzers (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @07:50PM (#8413035)

can i touch you?

OK, lets not kill ALL the lawyers, then (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @08:06PM (#8413159)

Richard R. Wiebe, San Francisco;
Hopkins & Carley, Arthur V. Plank,
Allonn E. Levy, San Jose;
First Amendment Project, Oakland,
James R. Wheaton, David A. Greene;
Tomlinson Zisko Morosoli & Maser,
Thomas E. Moore III, Palo Alto;
Electronic Frontier Foundation, San
Francisco, Cindy A. Cohn

You are now on the protected list.

Re:I never appreciated this until now... (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @08:08PM (#8413181)

I do support underage drinking. Especially for cheerleaders.

Re:I never appreciated this until now... (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @08:16PM (#8413249)

Double especially for junior high cheerleaders.

Re:But no DVD X Copy. (Score:3, Funny)

by angle_slam ( 623817 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @08:41PM (#8413402)

According to Jack Valenti, if you want a backup of a DVD you bought, you buy another one.

Re:But no DVD X Copy. (Score:5, Funny)

by angle_slam ( 623817 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @08:44PM (#8413418)

Here is the source of the quote [gnutellanews.com]:

Jack Valenti, head of the Motion Picture Association of America, has suggested that consumers have no legitimate need for such software, telling The Associated Press in November, "If you buy a DVD you have a copy. If you want a backup copy you buy another one."

Re:what exactly is this amazing parallel? (Score:3, Funny)

by aonifer ( 64619 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @09:01PM (#8413530)

I think it was that a DVD is a really long string of bytes and that analogy was a really long string of words and... wait...

That requires eyes... (Score:5, Funny)

by CoolMoDee ( 683437 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @09:44PM (#8413787) Homepage Journal

That requires eyes. A few days ago a friend sent me this mp3 (dunno where he found it) You can *listen* to someone sing the decss code, and its not richard stallman style either! Check it out at http://macwhore.net/the_computer_code_hoedown_.mp3 [macwhore.net]

Re:wtf? (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @09:53PM (#8413838)

>Holy crap, what exactly *would* destroy trade
>secret status if posting to the internet doesn't
>do the job?

You've got to wait for it to be indexed by Google.

Re:You always could. (Score:3, Funny)

by DarkSarin ( 651985 ) writes: on Friday February 27, 2004 @09:58PM (#8413851) Homepage Journal

I'm sorry, but there has been an evil(TM) program out there for a while that not only removes style sheets, but also breaks them. Something called IE? I think....

Re:But no DVD X Copy. (Score:5, Funny)

by zcat_NZ ( 267672 ) writes: <zcat@wired.net.nz> on Friday February 27, 2004 @10:54PM (#8414094) Homepage

For a long time I have avoided buying CD's, DVD's, DVD players, or even DVD computer drives in protest to the RIAA, MPAA and related 'pigopolist' organisations and companies.

However I recently made the following resolve. In the event of Jack Valenti's death, I will celebrate by buying a decent quality DVD writer at the first available opportunity.

Re:How does the DMCA and Trade Secret Work Togethe (Score:5, Funny)

by Dukael_Mikakis ( 686324 ) writes: <{moc.liamg} {ta} {retsreofwerdna}> on Friday February 27, 2004 @10:55PM (#8414097)

I got it wrong.

So sue me.

Wait, I shouldn't have said that ...

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if it doesn't fit... (Score:3, Funny)

Does this mean... (Score:4, Funny)

Wow. (Score:5, Funny)

can i use css now? (Score:5, Funny)

what exactly is this amazing parallel? (Score:4, Funny)

Re:A friend came up with an amazing analogy... (Score:3, Funny)

well.. (Score:0, Funny)

I never appreciated this until now... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Does this mean... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:does this mean (Score:5, Funny)

Re:How does the DMCA and Trade Secret Work Togethe (Score:5, Funny)

You always could. (Score:5, Funny)

wowzers (Score:1, Funny)

OK, lets not kill ALL the lawyers, then (Score:5, Funny)

Re:I never appreciated this until now... (Score:1, Funny)

Re:I never appreciated this until now... (Score:2, Funny)

Re:But no DVD X Copy. (Score:3, Funny)

Re:But no DVD X Copy. (Score:5, Funny)

Re:what exactly is this amazing parallel? (Score:3, Funny)

That requires eyes... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:wtf? (Score:1, Funny)

Re:You always could. (Score:3, Funny)

Re:But no DVD X Copy. (Score:5, Funny)

Re:How does the DMCA and Trade Secret Work Togethe (Score:5, Funny)

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