Search and Seizure at the Supreme Court

Pemdas writes "On March 22nd, the U.S. Supreme Court is slated to hear a case involving an arrest for lack of producing ID on the demand of a police officer. Dudley Hiibel was parked off the road, and was asked 11 times to show ID to the police officer, who gave the justification of 'investigating an investigation.' Finally, he was arrested, and eventually convicted of delaying a police officer,' and fined $250. The incident occurred in Humboldt County, Nevada; Mr. Hiibel's side of the story includes a good section on Terry stops, and has a video of the incident for download. The parallels to the previously covered Gilmore v. Ashcroft case are striking, and the ruling will be an interesting precedent on the issue of requiring ID's. The ACLU, EPIC, and EFF, among others, have filed Amicus briefs in the case."

Wow

[cptgrudge]

The first thing that ran through my head while reading the summary was a Nazi German saying, "Your papers, please."

Imagine my surprise when the site of the article is papersplease.org [papersplease.org].

Silly me, and I thought...

[Kjella]

'investigating an investigation.'

...it was Internal Affairs that "investigated investigations". Oh well...

Kjella

don't do the crime

[Hall and Oates]

if you can't do the time.

Only a criminal would have to be concerned with this issue, because if you're not doing anything wrong, you've got nothing to worry about and should show the police your ID ASAP.

His webserver must not have shown ID

[Anonymous Coward]

Apparently it's been arrested.

Re:Silly me, and I thought...

[Bingo Foo]

Yeah, he should have told the officer that that sounded like a conflict of interest. Then he would have been let go for sure.

Yes, but...

[ShockerFan]

Yes, but who will investigate the investigators' investigators?

Re:Happened to me

[Neil Blender]

I ended up working late on some Microsoft catastrophe at work.

Nice. Work in a dig at Microsoft. Ah, Slashdot.

Re:Drawing the line.

[Anonymous Coward]

What has it gots in its pocketses?

Good thing you're not black

[Anonymous Coward]

Or it might have went like this:

Cop: Hey boy, whats going on?
Me: Nothi....
Cop's begin beating you

Re:Wow

[alan_dershowitz]

I found the site contents somewhat ironic:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.

Re:I spent 8 hours in jail for this

[Anonymous Coward]

Let me get this straight. You read slashdot but you go to parties and drive around with girls?
dude we know your lying.

Re:I was arrested for this offense in Texas

[exp(pi*sqrt(163))]

Walking is a very suspicious activity. The only people who walk are (1) criminals or (2) people who are too poor to buy a car and so are probably also criminal.

Re:Wear the yellow star

[torpor]

no no, its not sig heil, its ... "whatever ..."

Re:Welcome to the Police State

[twoallbeefpatties]

In Soviet Russia, the ID carries you?

Re:I spent 8 hours in jail for this

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm an Eagle Scout, Assistant Scoutmast, and a deacon at my church

Do you like little boys too?

That would complete the set...

Re:Wow

[teklob]

These aren't the Jews you're looking for. *waves hand*

Re:Wow

[Anonymovs Coward]

That should have been:
You don't have permission to access this server from /.

Re:Wear the yellow star

[Anonymous Coward]

You know, the Nazis had pieces of Flair that they made the Jews wear.

Re:Drawing the line.

[Anonymous Coward]

Why bother drawing the line? I much prefer cause and effect. Let them get through #7 and when they gawk at the MP3 collection that perfectly reflects the CD collection, you can mention

"So now that you've wasted several hundred dollars of taxpayer money, which budget increase were you hoping that I'd vote for again?"

Public. Servant. And most of the city ones are pretty civil, too.

What do you expect

[Phillup]

Do you know how hard it is to wage class warfare without people catching on?

And then... to have the indentured servants unable to work because of pot?

That simply won't do... too much energy has been expended to create those wage slaves.

Re:I spent 8 hours in jail for this

[flacco]

From those nights, I've lost most of my regard that I once had for police officers. Luckily, I have not lost my regard for my fellow man.

just give it awhile, you'll get there.

note to moderators: not funny.

These aren't the driods you're looking for

[DaveBear]

Why oh why couldn't he just have said with a wave of his hand, "You don't need to see his identification..."

FINALLY ON TOPIC!

[Lord Kano]

In Soviet Russia, the police...um apparently operate the same way as those in Nevada.

Re:thank you John Asscroft!

[spood]

Don't worry though the USA PATRIOT ACT's will take care of all your problems.

Yes, it's much nicer in Cuba than Canada this time of year.

Re:I write a weekly newspaper column

[Riktov]

Assume you live in the typical suburban neighborhood. Now assume your 10 year old son and 2 of his 10 year old friends went on a ride to the local park to play on the swings on Sunday afternoon.

Would be OK for a cop to arrest these 12 year old for not producing an ID?

It's certainly not a crime, but I think that any child that ages from 10 to 12 years old within the span of one Sunday afternoon would arouse some suspicion!

Re:Wear the yellow star

[VFVTHUNTER]

Thanks for the correction - I always get their wigs confused :)

Re:Welcome to the Police State

[Prior Restraint]

You have a right to life, liberty, etc etc, but not to anonymity.

In that case, I can't see any objection to our President deploying troops to the polling stations to guarantee that democracy doesn't fall to terrorists:

A large man in military fatigues and a loaded rifle will check your ID, to make sure you're permitted to vote at this location, aren't trying to vote twice, etc. A second soldier will escort you into the booth, and stand guard over you as you fill out your ballot. He'll go over your selections with you, to ensure you didn't make any mistakes; we can't have another Florida-style fiasco, can we?

RFID is a potential answer.

[openmtl]

You need to be implanted with RFID chips. That way you can transmit a unique ID. The trick is to store the ID codes in a database (TIA like) and have it flaged as either issuing the details immediately or have the database raise a court order asking permission to issue the name details. That way peoples rights are kept with out all the hassle of carrying around little bits of paper.

Of course other biometric methods could work but RFID is successful with trackng other valuable animals like hourses and dogs. Unfortunately though, identity theft would be a lot more painful !

Don't like that view of the world ? - well this is the country that accepts that you can't get a beer without showing ID. You reap what you sow.

Re:Did you notice?

[Anonymous Coward]

*rrriiinnnggg*

911: Hello, what is your emergency?
Caller: I just saw someone I know brutally raping a woman.
911: Ok, what is the man's name?
Caller: daveschroeder
911: And your name is, sir?
Caller: *click*

Re:Wear the yellow star

[hesiod]

> I'm at school and don't feel like sending my password cleartext through the networking lab

Yes, because logging into /. is such a sensitive, personal thing that all those evil hackers are looking for.