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SCO Lobbying Congress Against Open Code 907

An anonymous reader writes "Along with suing Novell - it was announced today that SCO has been lobbying Congress about the horrifying ways that Linux and the rest of open source software saves users money, allows others to use the software anyway they see fit and 'gasp' causes SCO to not make as much money as they would like. Along with all of the usual FUD. OSAIA has the details (as well as a rebuke)." Darl's words will seem pretty transparent, even funny, to anyone aware of the widespread acceptance and use of Free / Open Source software (by individuals, governments, non-profits, and even companies like SCO) -- but you might have to point this out to your servants in Congress.
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SCO Lobbying Congress Against Open Code

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  • So... (Score:5, Funny)

    by DragonMagic ( 170846 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:16PM (#8049499) Homepage
    So when will SCO be lobbying God to stop all these bad things? Seems like the next logical step in that fantasy world Darl lives in.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:19PM (#8049553)
    1. Open source software is free, leading management and general users to believe that no one ever should pay for anything software-related.

    2. Open-source products are available to anyone, which led to outflux of jobs out of United States, since a developer in Tanzania knows Apache or MySQL just as well, but is willing to work for 2 kilos of rice a day, unlike their greedy American counterparts.

    3. Open-source projects have never been tested and approved by Microsoft or other reliable software vendors with market cap over 100 billion and public trust behind them.

    4. All open source companies are either bankrupt, or litigating, or in the process of bankruptcy/litigation process.

    5. Open source companies contributed more to the job losses in the software industry than any other company sector. Microsoft had always been hiring and so have other closed-source companies.

    6. Open source does not have a vital business model.

    7. There are many software shops that write little Access-thingies and make thousands of dollars per month. Microsoft had made thousand of millionaires in the software business. Linux so far only earned money for IBM and HP.

    8. As Linus himself shamefully admitted, errno.h was shamelessly copied from SCO Software Development Labs. Thus the terrorist organizations around the world know the error codes for any Linux system and potentially coudl disrupt nuclear reactors and spaceships.

  • by AtariDatacenter ( 31657 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:20PM (#8049561)
    Run. RUN!!! Run to your local lawmaker and have them change the rules. A play right out of Darl's CEO 101 Handbook.

    Its too late, Darl. You can't preserve your house of cards by hoping someone will change the laws of physics for you.
  • Congress (Score:5, Funny)

    by markfive ( 167272 ) <mbonnin@gmail.com> on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:21PM (#8049573)
    "You can lead a man to congress, but you can't make him think."

    - Milton Berle
  • by An Anonymous Hero ( 443895 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:23PM (#8049588)

    ...given our congress' firm commitment against Weapons of Mass Distraction.
  • by ydnar ( 946 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:29PM (#8049639) Homepage
    It believe it's high time to introduce Darl to weapons of ass destruction.
  • by Not_Wiggins ( 686627 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:30PM (#8049647) Journal
    Awww... I was hoping the "impact" you were going to talk about would be measured in crater size...
  • by Camel Pilot ( 78781 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:30PM (#8049653) Homepage Journal
    # $version 0.01$

    my $funds = get_money('src'=>'microsoft');
    $funds += get_money('src'=>'sun');
    $funds += get_money('src'=>'baystar');
    $funds += get_money('src'=>'hapless_investors');

    while ( $funds > 0 )
    {
    $funds -= pay_legal();

    sue_someone('target'=>rand);
    public_release('threat'=>rand);
    }

    die;
    &nbsp ;
  • by Anaxagor ( 211917 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:32PM (#8049666)
    1. The threat to the U.S information technology industry

    "Please legislate to save our industry so we can send it to offshore sweatshops and make gazillions (and those election campaigns ain't cheap hey Mr Congresscritter )."

    2. The threat to our international competitive position.

    "Forget anthrax - Linux is the real WMD!"

    3. The threat to our national security.

    "Forget Saddam - Linus is the real enemy of humanity, and you can add Finland to the axis of evil! Those Finns, what have they done for us recently, with their weird language and dinky little phones."

  • by marco0009 ( 716718 ) <<marco0009> <at> <gmail.com>> on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:34PM (#8049680)
    We would lose less from an intelligence standpoint if we sent Darl instead.
  • Re:So... (Score:3, Funny)

    by xao gypsie ( 641755 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:36PM (#8049695)
    until darl realizes that God released the source to the universe...in which case he will have to make a deal with Satan....oh..wait....nevermind.
  • by Rude-Boy ( 25678 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:40PM (#8049735)
    "But a computer expert in North Korea who has a number of personal computers and an internet connection can download the latest version of Linux, complete with multi-processing capabilities misappropriated from UNIX..."
  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:40PM (#8049741)
    I'm just wondering. It'd be awfully funny if it is.

    It would appear it isn't. [tripod.com]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:42PM (#8049762)
    That depends what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
  • by localhost00 ( 742440 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:42PM (#8049764) Journal
    Next, the Oil companies try to outlaw bicycles?
  • by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:43PM (#8049783)


    > "Forget anthrax - Linux is the real WMD!"

    That's so last year. In 2004 it's "WMDRPA".

  • by Haeleth ( 414428 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:44PM (#8049787) Journal
    Not to mention the PR standpoint. I don't think PETA would be very happy with the chimp idea, but SCO execs...?
  • by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:46PM (#8049812)


    > I wonder when Microsoft is going to come out behind SCO's curtain?

    When the hard-on goes away.

  • Faith based (Score:3, Funny)

    by jefu ( 53450 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:47PM (#8049842) Homepage Journal
    I suspect that with the current administration the Open Source movement would do well to find biblical injunctions that support the notion of open source and (most especially) the GPL.

    Then the claim could be made that it is faith based and since that is the thing that the administration likes best (after wars, oil and Profit!) it might serve as some level of protection.

    Sadly, a full text search of the King James Bible fails to turn up either the term "copyleft" or "gnu". Though there is the "Gnu Testament", but I don't think that will convince anyone. (Though there may be a connection. Amazon.com tells me that : "Customers interested in The Linux Bible: The Gnu Testament may also be interested in: Free for Christians " Everything is for Christians. Everything is free. . Though that web page seems lacking in much in the way of "Free" software. )

  • Re:So... (Score:5, Funny)

    by StarTux ( 230379 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:50PM (#8049862) Journal
    If Darl is Catholic maybe he will do something like this?

    "Dear Pope,

    Being the CEO of SCO, a Holy Company on a Holy Crusade against the Evil forces of Linux and the GPL can you please ask God to strike them down. Knowing these things can take time, can you please publically ex-communicate these Hippies from the Church".

  • by sm0yby ( 728247 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @07:53PM (#8049901)
    Myself, I am still waiting for them to sue me over use of their code with a license...
  • Re:So... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:01PM (#8049987)
    until darl realizes that God released the source to the universe...in which case he will have to make a deal with Satan....oh..wait....nevermind.

    Ummm.... last time I checked the universe was encoded. You have the source? I'd love to see it! Maybe we can release a special build without SCO in it!

  • Re:So... (Score:0, Funny)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:01PM (#8049989)
    Darl McBride is a Mormon [hiltonfamily.org] and you're an moron ...
  • by maliabu ( 665176 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:01PM (#8049990)
    pardon my ignorance, but isn't Lobbying supposed to be done less openly? or is Lobbyist some kind of profession in USA?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:13PM (#8050124)
    NASA chimmed in on the issue to report that the Mars rover found what appears to be a fossilized brain about the size of a pea. Analysts believe it to be the one missing from SCO's current in-house lunatic CEO. Satan also came clean today, commenting on a contract several years ago where one Darl McBride sold a total of one soul for complete supremecy of all open source code. News to follow as it becomes available.
  • by fermion ( 181285 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:17PM (#8050155) Homepage Journal
    [ob south park] The Entity

    Mr. Garrison: Excuse me, what the hell are you doing?
    Agent 1: It's alright, we're with the government.
    Agent 2: We're just shutting you down.
    Mr. Garrison: Shutting me down? Why?
    Agent 3: The airlines are in desperate trouble. Your vehicle is causing them to lose money.
    Mr. Garrison: Yeah, well that was the point, dingleberry! put that down!
    Agent 4: Right, so the government is bailing the airlines out again, but shutting you down and making ITs illegal.
    Mr. Garrison: OH, GOD-DAMNIT! You'd better be kidding!
    Agent 5: Sir, many people work for the airlines. We can't let them all be fired.
    Mr. Garrison: THE AIRLINE COMPANIES ARE LOSING MONEY BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN INCOMPETENCE AND THEIR OWN INEFFICIENCY!!
    Agent 6: That may be true. But if you build, sell, or ride another IT, "it" will be the last time. Have a nice night.

  • Hookers (Score:5, Funny)

    by cdn-programmer ( 468978 ) <<ten.cigolarret> <ta> <rret>> on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:17PM (#8050160)
    This is like saying that women should not be able to give sex out for free because it competes with the rights of hookers to rent what they got at exhorbitant prices.

    Way to go SCO!!!!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:28PM (#8050281)
    Damm commie countries have it easy these days when was i spy for mother russia I had to steal secrets using russian microcamera, then walk 15 blocks in the snow.
  • by chaoticset ( 574254 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:29PM (#8050286) Homepage
    Let sleeping dogs lie. I say, NO!


    You know what sleeping dogs I'm referring to don't you? No? Well, let me refresh your memory. Hackers! That's right, Hackers, Geeks, Software Engineers, G-P-Lers! Oh, now you remember. Well, do you also remember a few years ago when we all talked about how the Hackers were going to take over the world and how every household would be run by Hackers and their filthy free software? Oh, yeah, we feared the Hackers back in them days and for good reason too. Now, all I hear is poor little Geeks, they've got no money. Poor little Hackers, they've been arrested. Poor little Nerdies this and poor little Coders that.


    Don't you get it? Am I the only one that gets it? It's a trick! Free software never dies. Free software is a cancer. A cancer that is sleeping, waiting to devour our freedom. Devour democracy.


    Oh, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, "This guy's just some money-grubbing, lawsuit-filing wannabe-attorney who had a horrible upbringing and whose father beat him every day with a bible." Well, that may be true, but it never did me any harm!


    All I'm saying is, a few years ago, people listened to what I had to say. I fit in. Well, listen to me now. The Hackers, they're going to try to take over the world again. Don't you forget that for one second, friend, or else you'll be lining up for source code in a God-less world.


    There's one more thing I'd like to say. Linux! You forgot about it, didncha? Well, that's just what they want us to do, that's right. The Hacker GPLers, the Linux Geeks, they're like this!


    So when people say to me, 'Let sleeping dogs lye." I say, to them, 'Friend, sleeping dogs, they eventually wake up and chew out the throat of democracy! Don't think I don't know what you're up to, Hackers. Don't think I'm unaware that Sam Palmisano or should I say, l33t5killz is one of you! (pulls up Sam from behind the desk)


    Sam: (tied up with a gag in his mouth) He's crazy!


    Crazy like a fanatic -- FOX, I mean! (pushes Sam back down behind his desk) Down you fanatic geek! (starts beating Sam with a stack of legal briefs) One man, one consumer! One man, one consumer!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:31PM (#8050310)
    My father is a lobbiest (at the state level, not national)

    What's that? the best lobbyist in town?

    No, it means that he's the most lobby person in the state. He might be the most lobby guy in the nation, but as we all know, the National Lobby Championship isn't until March. Does it make more sense now?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:44PM (#8050453)
    Mr. Bush will be re-elected, but he won't work for the adoption of a constitutional amendment defining marriage as a union of a man and a woman. Instead, he will push through an amendment defining F/OSS software as an al-Qaeda plot to corrupt the value of the American software industry, thereby exposing all GPL licensors to the risk of being deemed enemy combatants. Get ready, Linus. Guantanamo Bay beckons.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @08:49PM (#8050489)
    9. There is no Profit!!!
  • by Punk Walrus ( 582794 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @09:23PM (#8050775) Journal
    ... of those homeless people that sometimes come into the shelter. You know, "I was once a contender! I'll... I'll sue you all! You'll see! The government is EVIL, and the Post Office is spreading... lies! Lies about me! I have been sleeping by the mailbox, and heard what it SAYS! J-jesus will c-come, and... weilding his great sword... will... willl..."

    Come on, SCO. We know, we know. Here's a blanket, you poor, poor man. Have some hot coffee, and a nice warm plate of turkey and gravy. You remember Linus? Your social worker? We were all worried about you. We heard you yelling and carrying on. Linus is glad to see you.

    "He's full of... LIES! He's one of them!"

    There, there. Linus is your friend, remember? He gave you all that nice Open Source medication--

    "Tried to POISON me, he DID! He, he stole those magic pills from ME! You hear me? ARF ARF! Call the guards! Guards! Help me, this man POISONED ME!"

    I understand. You're cold and confused. Off your medication. There, there... we'll make it all better. Now, hand me that butter knife, put poor Mrs. User down, and we'll have a nice chat..."

    "LIES! ALL LIES! I'LL SUE YOU ALL!!!"

    Oh dear. Well, he'll go to sleep eventually. Just keep an eye on him so he doesn't hurt any of the the others, and he'll be fine. Mrs. User, can you just be patient and humor him for a while? He's had a bad business deal, and he's all out of sorts.

  • by neurocutie ( 677249 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @09:38PM (#8050873)
    I thought SCO was claiming *millions* of lines of code copied:

    "SCO Senior Vice President Chris Sontag said there are millions of lines of offending code involved and that it's highly unlikely the matter could be resolved by removing that code."

    yet in this letter, Darl is only claiming *thousands*: "I find this particularly galling because that Linux software contains thousands of lines of my company's proprietary UNIX code..."

    Gee, I guess the magnitude of the issue has just be cranked down by 3 orders of magnitude -- the claimed infraction is now just 0.1% of the original claim. Do you think we will see SCO adjusting the $3B claim on IBM down to $3M ?

  • Re:So... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Geek of Tech ( 678002 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @10:36PM (#8051359) Homepage Journal
    Here I've got the code
    ----------------------

    #include <iostream.h>

    int main()
    {

    int life_the_universe_and_everything;
    life_the_univer se_and_everything = 42;

    cout << "We apologise for the inconvenience";

    }

  • by Geek of Tech ( 678002 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @10:50PM (#8051453) Homepage Journal
    >>

    And IBM has lobbyists too, plus they could easily donate the entire value of SCO to political campaigns if they wanted to.

    But what would anyone really want with 47 cents worth of stock options?

  • by Viper233 ( 132365 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2004 @10:54PM (#8051484) Homepage
    ...cause it sounds like their getting/smoking some of the finest shit money can buy, I mean you'd have to to write that kinda stuff. As soon as they can get that stuff on the streets, we'll all be better off.
    rm /cheek/tongue
  • Re:So... (Score:2, Funny)

    by aastanna ( 689180 ) on Thursday January 22, 2004 @12:22AM (#8052064)
    Now I lay me down to sleep
    I pray the lord my source to keep
    Inside Linux and BSD
    And may all money come to me
  • by Snoopy77 ( 229731 ) on Thursday January 22, 2004 @12:32AM (#8052133) Homepage
    No use working on Linux anymore guys, or any GPL'ed project for that matter. These projects are not driven by profit and are therefore not innovative.

    Sorry to bring you the bad news.
  • by Artifakt ( 700173 ) on Thursday January 22, 2004 @12:41AM (#8052175)
    If you want to pitch this to congress, the stress should not be on how Linux is already international. It should be that SCO's actions are decreasing the amount of Linux being developed in the US, and giving businesses in other nations a head start in implementing new features. (Sure, everything spreads so fast that head start can't exceed a few days, but, even if it's tiny, it's there). We must act now to close the Linux Gap!
    See IBM. IBM is very patriotic.
    See Linus. Gee, with a name straight from the most loveable kid in Peanuts, how could he not be patriotic? See Linus choose to live in the US while developing his software.
    See RMS. Ooops! See RMS's mother. She's a nice lady. She must be patriotic. (Quick, we need a stand in for RMS's mother. She has to bake apple pies. Lots of Apple Pies.).
  • by Flyboy Connor ( 741764 ) on Thursday January 22, 2004 @05:28AM (#8052987)

    Dear Congress,

    Be wise, listen to SCO, and make Open Source illegal in the USA.

    The First and Third world will probably not be so insightful and will continue to allow Open Source and its products, such as Linux.

    Our businesses will suffer because we can't make any money anymore from programming commercial software for billions of users. Instead we'll have to rely on (admittedly cheap and trustworthy) software to drive our businesses and get money from building dedicated software and more tangible products. OK, we may get rich, even filthy rich, but we will never get disgustingly rich.

    In the meantime, in the USA you will be safe from the Open Source evil and can trust in your home-produced, expensive (and therefore obviously excellent) Microsoft products. We are very sorry that the export of those same products will come to a halt, but such is life.

    You can be sure that we will examine the papers of any Open Source geeks that want to emigrate from the USA closely. We wouldn't want the USA to lose their tech potential. Of course, we can't guarantee anything, since many countries would welcome them, but be ensured that you have our sympathies.

    And anyway, litigation is much more lucrative than producing actual goods. Too bad here we have not yet been able to latch on to the litigation bubble, but it is certainly the way of the future.

    Regards,

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 22, 2004 @06:27AM (#8053175)
    As an Atheist I'm surprised that you couldn't have just ignored the discussion and just shut the hell up. Do you get stabing pains behind your eyes or something whenever someone discusses a religion you do not personally ascribe to?

    Love thy neighbor indeed.
  • by radish ( 98371 ) on Thursday January 22, 2004 @11:13AM (#8054797) Homepage
    So you're proudly declaring the US as "more free than China"? Well I guess it's a start.

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