URLs Patented, Domain Registrars Sued 650
theodp writes "A newly formed company is suing Network Solutions and Register.com for infringing on its e-mail and domain naming patent, which covers assigning each member of a group a URL of the form 'name.subdomain.domain' and an e-mail address of the form 'name@subdomain.domain.'"
Slightly funnier take (Score:3, Interesting)
What the.... (Score:3, Interesting)
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whoops.... (Score:5, Interesting)
This will be a fun one to watch.
I hope they win (Score:5, Interesting)
Also be a great example to the EU of what not to allow.
Worst... Patent... Ever.... Granted.... (Score:3, Interesting)
I knew the USPTO was full of 'tards, but this just takes the fucking cake.. Only a freaking chimpanzee could think this patent deserved to be granted... no, wait, I take that back... a moderately intelligent chimp could see through this...
AAaaagggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These fools are gonna cause me to pull every last hair I have out of my head....
Re:Not as bad as SCO. (Score:3, Interesting)
For an example a little closer to home, look at sourceforge.net. project.sourceforge.net is how they hand out URLS. If they allow email addresses project@sourceforge.net, they'd be violating this patent as well, right?
I can provide prior art (Score:2, Interesting)
Proving once again... (Score:1, Interesting)
http://www.anreabhloid.org
US Patent System Needs Overhauling (Score:2, Interesting)
The only way round this is for US citizens to lobby US congresmen to change the patent laws to something sensible. Also publishizing things like this in the popular press is a good idea.
To the citizens of the US - Do you really want to live in a country where these IP pirates disrupt all? Where they in effect steal monies from businesses (who will pass the loss onto the customer)? You live in a democracy - do something about it!
Two biggest blunders in America's Judicial system (Score:3, Interesting)
The second was in the 1980's when they relaxed the patent process for software. Up till that time, software was considered to be nothing more than mathematical formulas which could not be patented.
How I long for the glory days!
Re:Slightly funnier take (Score:0, Interesting)
If all these things are as obvious as people like to claim, why don't they patent them? Is it that maybe they were only obvious after someone stated them?
Ahh, which brings us to the point of the patent system. Protecting something that is duplicatable for a period of time.
Sliced bread! pffft. My dog coulda come up with that one!
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Re:Worst... Patent... Ever.... Granted.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Learn how the Patent system works, direct that energy into trying to fix it.
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Re:Please, read the patent... (Score:5, Interesting)
How 'bout requiring a bond which is given to the first person to invalidate the patent.
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Re:Slightly funnier take (Score:5, Interesting)
Technically, you can apply for a patent on anything. You could even apply for a patent on someone's else's patent if you were looking for a way to burn a lot of money real quick.
The thing is, people patent stupid shit all the time. Shining a flashlight on the floor and having a cat chase it is a patented exercise system for pets. The problem is that they'd never be able to enforce it, the owner of the patent would pretty much be laughed right out of the courtroom as long as the defendant showed up. Then, they'd lose it.
The USPTO will play lip service to any idiot that can pay them. They just sort of leave it up to the courts to decide whether or not there was any intelligent driving force behind the patent or not. Fear not, this "entrepreneur" will be shot down pretty quickly. Move along, folks. Nothing to see here, just a bunch of braindead corporate lawyers.
HAH, that's not a URL ! (Score:5, Interesting)
URLs start with the "http://" prefix, or probably more correctly "|protocol|://" prefix.
They have a domain name there, that is all, not a URL.
If they get the terminology wrong in a patent, does that mean it is invalid, because the "inventor" doesn't understand the topic well enough to be explicitly correct ? I would have thought patents have to be explicitly correct, as the government is granting the patent holder a monopoly, and therefore, the patent must be very clear and correct.
Re:WTF? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Prior art, DNS zone files (Score:4, Interesting)
No. There needs to be some kind of punitive damage for the people who approve a patent application that is not only covered by prior art, but are in the Public Domain, for over 20 years before the application!
I say we need to start holding the U.S. Patent Office accountable for the actions of their "lazy, incompetent, government" employees.
BTW, I am a government employee. And if I did my job as poorly as they do, I'd expect to get my ass booted out into the cold, pronto!
Re:Slightly funnier take (Score:1, Interesting)
Unfortunately, you're wrong. Until such a patent is overturned by a court ruling, it's very legal and quite enforceable - said enforcement attempt is what should trigger the lawsuit that gets the patent invalidated.
I'm suprised they picked such well-funded companies to go after first - I'd have thought it would be the smallest registrars they could find, the ones without the legal depts to pursue a lawsuit instead of settling.
Re:Suing is evidently a business model (Score:5, Interesting)
The words "socially acceptable business practice" no longer have any meaning in the United States. The general thinking is that if it makes money, it must be OK, and ethics be damned. It doesn't help that our current political leadership shares this view.
Re:A date even funnier: November 23 1999!! (Score:3, Interesting)
Too bad their prices have increased about tenfold in that time. It's not as cool now that you can get an entire full-service hosted domain for a bit more than their e-mail plus 5mb web site.
Re:Stop the World i wana get off (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Slightly funnier take (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Stop the World i wana get off (Score:3, Interesting)
There should not be any need for prior art to defeat this. You're saying it yourself 'this naming convention'. Patents are for inventions, not conventions. It's called the nonobvious test for a patent.
(note: IANAL).
Re:You prosecute patents for a living.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Stop the World i wana get off (Score:1, Interesting)
Go, Lemmings, Go!
Re:Slightly funnier take (Score:5, Interesting)
The fact that having a lawyer is often necessary does not in any way make lawyers good.
As to the argument that "if the laws weren't so messed up, then the RIAA goons couldn't come after me" I'd ask /. collectively, when was the last time those of you who live in democracies voted? Do you vote eagerly? Do you wake up (in the US) on Primary Tuesdays and cast a vote so you won't be stuck with party candidates you hate?
Cripes, man, what are you talking about? If I vote, which lawyer (most politicians are lawyers) should I vote for? The entire root of the problem is that lawyers have been allowed to make law. Voting is a sham. It's a way for us citizens/children to make token gestures and claim "look Mommy, I'm helping!"
Corporations control America today not because the American system is broken, but because people bitch and bitch and bitch but aren't willing to do the hard work necessary to make sure the system does what it's supposed to. You wouldn't fill your car's gas tank up with water, right? And you wouldn't use a 10-year-old rubber band in place of a bike chain? You wouldn't build your beach house out of sand, would you?
That paragraph doesn't even make sense. Are you saying people are stupid and therefore shouldn't complain, or that complaining about bad laws is like a sand beach house?
You forget that abusive plaintiff's lawyers (the ones you're really griping about) only survive because the system is currently so chaotic and broken that they're able to make loads of money working the nooks and crannies of the broken system, just
So the voters' continually elect lawyers to write law, and it's the voters who shoulder all the blame because they should know better than to elect lawyers?
People make lawyer jokes, and they're funny, I suppose. But just remember something someone who was in prison after having a crappy court-appointed lawyer lose his case for him told me: the only lawyer you ever wished you could have is the one you realized you needed after a lifetime telling yourself they weren't wanted.
People make lawyer jokes because such a huge percentage of lawyers are scum. The law is a parasite on society. It's an arbitrary game of devised by an intellectually inbred subculture that has, by virtue of their power, made themselves necessary. Necessary is not the same thing as good. Lawyers are a necessary evil, and little else.
Re:Stop the World i wana get off (Score:3, Interesting)
Even though this group of f*ckwits tries to screw people more than NS and R.com, the patent system is even worse. And until the majority understands that it was horribly broken a long time ago, nothing will change.
We need much more stupid patent lawsuits. Bring it on!
Re:Stop the World i wana get off (Score:5, Interesting)
Easier than that. The patent was filed in November 1999. In the patent itself it references websites, including:
Webpage: Freeyellow.com, Apr., 1998.*
Webpage: switchboard.com, Jun. 1996.*
As in, Freeyellow (subdomain) . com (domain) and switchboard (subdomain) . com (domain). These frickin' crackheads used prior art three+ years before they filed the patent, and referenced it in the patent. Tell me it's April Fools' Day.