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More Damning SCO Evidence At Groklaw 404

Posted by timothy
from the damn-damn-damn dept.
An anonymous reader writes "There's a very interesting story up at Groklaw right now. PJ reports on new evidence that Chris Hellwig, a SCO employee, contributed code to SMP, XFS, and JFS and did so with the knowledge of his supervisor." Groklaw is thorough, and this is another good example of just quite how thorough.
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More Damning SCO Evidence At Groklaw

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  • by Lead Butthead (321013) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:02PM (#7614239) Journal
    "This is a Linux country; On a quiet night, you can hear SCO and its legal case cracking under the weight of its ever mounting lies."
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:02PM (#7614240)
    error selecting database
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:05PM (#7614263)
    Cha Ching!
  • by thenextpresident (559469) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:10PM (#7614298) Homepage Journal
    You remember when SCO first made these claims, and you had a bunch of people running around saying "they might be right, they might be right...", and basically defending SCO?

    Where are they now?
  • by UnknowingFool (672806) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:15PM (#7614342)
    Assuredly SCO has given ample evidece of being blindingly incompetent in the past, such that sheer incompetence is hands-down the most plausible explanation here.

    That's giving too much moral credit. Maybe they know; maybe they just don't care. But that would be giving them too much intellectual credit. Decisions, decisions. I'm waiting for a Chewbacca defense eventually.

  • by kfg (145172) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:17PM (#7614349)
    Where are they now?

    Argentina?

    It may no longer be a blue world, Max, but Big Blue is still likely to kick some SCO butt.

    KFG
  • by Kaemaril (266849) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:25PM (#7614415)
    Where are they now? Probably still writing the same uninformed magazine articles...
  • by Dwindlehop (62388) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:26PM (#7614420) Homepage
    Groklaw is thorough, and this is another good example of just quite
    how thorough.

    In sharp contrast to /.

  • Re:what!!! (Score:3, Funny)

    by CrowScape (659629) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:30PM (#7614450)
    No, only so that people wouldn't confuse the Securities and Exchange Commission with his fictitious Stock Exchange Commission. The misspelling was purely accidental. ^_^
  • by Chuck Chunder (21021) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:36PM (#7614491) Homepage Journal
    I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything.
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    Doh!
  • by grasshoppa (657393) * <skennedy.tpno-co@org> on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:42PM (#7614529) Homepage
    Pamala Jones has my early vote for "Linux Booster of the Year for 2003".

    She has my vote for President. :)

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:46PM (#7614562)
    If you use them both, do you get Gilette's razor, with Occam's shaving you close, Hanlon's closer still?
  • by Scrameustache (459504) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:58PM (#7614629) Homepage Journal
    You remember when SCO first made these claims, and you had a bunch of people running around saying "they might be right, they might be right...", and basically defending SCO?

    Where are they now?


    Looking for weapons of mass destruction?
  • by Black Parrot (19622) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @08:59PM (#7614636)


    > Also, if conspiracy is proven, SCO, and its board, will face criminal, as well as civil penalties.

    Yeah, I get tired of fantasizing about Paris Hilton now and then too.

  • Um... (Score:5, Funny)

    by dmaxwell (43234) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @09:43PM (#7614881)
    He must be made to pay, a la Kenneth Lay, for his hubris.

    The only problem with that is that Kenneth Lay hasn't paid. At most, they're going to hang a minor board executive and pin the whole thing on him.

    I'd rather see him pay a la King Louis XIV.

    swiiiiisssh! thump! spurt!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @09:48PM (#7614908)
    error selecting database

    Sometimes I worry if I've made an error when selecting a database.

    MySQL seems to be widely deployed, but has only recently been getting relatively important features found in other RDBMS systems. Postgres seems to have the features that MySQL lacks, but if its so great, why isn't anyone using it. (Of course, don't ask a Postgres zealot that question. You'll never hear the end of their object of obsession is so underappreciated. They're worse than Python programmers.) Then of course, there are the commercial choices. Those shouldn't be ignored. I've seen a company essentially saved based on one call to Sybase's tech support.

    Of course, eventually you just have to make a choice and go with it. There is no use in messages like the above one that announce to your readers your poor decisions.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @09:54PM (#7614953)
    Thanks to Diebold, she has all ten thousand of my votes.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @10:12PM (#7615045)
    I have always thought it a cheap trick when a story creates a character that is so utterly unbelievably evil that all you what to see is them crushed under the grinding wheels of a gravel truck and extruded thru a rock crusher. And then of course they do in the end just to satisfy the primitive parts of your brain. This I believe is the hallmark of an inferior story and the definition of poor literature.

    However here we have in real life several characters (that is SCO's upper managerment and new found lawyer buddys) that fit this description neatly. So let hurry this story line along - I will go pop some more popcorn.
  • by puzzled (12525) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @10:46PM (#7615279) Journal

    "Ai! Ai!" wailed Legolas, "A Balrog is come!"

    s/Legolas/Darl/

    I don't think a picture of PJ has ever been published, but I'm definitely getting this visual of 60'+ tall, wreathed in smoke, with a lash of flame close at hand for when fools trespass.

    Keep up the good work PJ - and where is that 'donate via paypal' button on your site?

  • Re:Really? (Score:3, Funny)

    by corbettw (214229) <corbettw@[ ]oo.com ['yah' in gap]> on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @10:52PM (#7615332) Journal
    Legal department != company. Otherwise, the legal department would just go on break, and the company would never be liable for anything . . .

    Careful, someone in Congress might get some ideas.
  • Re:Old news (Score:3, Funny)

    by cthugha (185672) on Tuesday December 02, 2003 @11:26PM (#7615572)
    To turn around now and claim that, somehow, Linux "sneaked up" on them while they weren't looking. That, somehow, upper management was "unaware" that they were supporting Linux is... I don't know... Hypocrisy is too mild, fraudulent is closer, deceitful, dishonest is too dry. Hmmm.

    Congratulations, you hit the bullseye :). It now remains to wrap it up in appropriate legalese.

  • by spacecowboy420 (450426) <<moc.liamg> <ta> <neetsacr>> on Wednesday December 03, 2003 @02:53AM (#7616458)

    This requires popcorn.


    And a fast forward button.

    Geez, get on with the wrecks and explosions already - I wanna see bodies.
  • by dankdirk77 (690855) on Wednesday December 03, 2003 @03:15AM (#7616508)
    This should be a strong deterrent to lawyers everywhere who want to mess with geeks and intellectual property lawsuits. I mean, look at SCO, even with the money they have paid Boise and co., those lawyers heads must be reeling trying to understand all this stuff like NUMA and JFS and RCU. Do you think the other petty ambulance chasers trying to sue the gun manufacturers and mcdonalds and philip morris want a piece of this? And remember, the ultimate killing machine awaits, the geek-lawyer hybrid; available exclusively at IBM.
  • by coolmos (138993) on Wednesday December 03, 2003 @04:59AM (#7616790)
    Somehow, Darl McBride reminds me of these posters for the Rowan Atkinson film 'Johnny English'

    'He knows no fear'

    'He knows no danger'

    'He knows nothing'

    Sorry if i offended you, Mr. Atkinson.
  • by tiger99 (725715) on Wednesday December 03, 2003 @01:40PM (#7620334)
    Or both, because the US legal system will deal with McBride, but it will take far too long to do it, and the kernel will likely be on about version 9.9, and of course completely clean (as I think it is now) before there is a verdict.

    Like M$, the ruling will be too late to be of any use to anyone. SCO will have lost all of their business, and probably their one friend, the Convicted Monopolist of Redmond, long before then. SCO will be outlawed in most of Europe. The investors (who in this case deserve exactly what they will get for being totally stupid) wil be mounting class actions, Slashdot will no longer report the case because people have started to die of boredom, Windoze 2020 will have a major root exploit, will need 64GB of RAM, and will be rejected by the masses, Redmond wil have degenerated into a ghetto for unemployable hackers, the latest 256 bit Athlon will need helium cooling, Intel will still be trying to sell 128 bit processors that don't run Windoze, FreeBSD will be competing fiercely with Linux for No. 1 position on the desktop, following the merger of Boeing and Airbus, and much product rationalisation, Concorde MK 2 will be in flight trials, a new variety of GM pig will really be able to fly............

    None of that will necessarily happen of course, but the fact is that whatever happens in court will no longer be of importance to anyone except McBride, who will be trying to save face to the very end, when he will be declared bankrupt. The rest of the world will simply move on and forget this momentary aberration, as they will have forgotten the insignificant little man who occupied the White House without being elected.

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