SCO Fined in Munich For Linux Claims 436
nordi writes "heise.de reports (in German) that SCO Germany has to pay a fine of 10,000 Euros (~10,800 US$) because they kept on saying that Linux contains stolen intellectual property of SCO. In May a German court had decided that SCO Germany must not continue making those claims." Yes, it's auf Deutsch, so break out babelfish.
We can only hope (Score:5, Insightful)
At the end of the day, companies like Microsoft and SCO won't be stopped by the US. The best we can do is waste a couple hundred million in tax dollars on a useless court case that is headed by a puppet judge. We can only hope that the EU will save us, a body that acts swiftly against vil business tactics, and usually solidly (just look at how they dealt with Nintendo).
Re:We can only hope (Score:5, Insightful)
Not the amount (Score:4, Insightful)
Overzealous regulators; let the market decide (Score:0, Insightful)
Various national courts (Score:4, Insightful)
Of course, SCO/Caldera being an American company trying to enforce claims in a foreign country that doesn't (yet) have software patents might be partially why.
Re:We can only hope (Score:5, Insightful)
Jackson a puppet of Microsoft? What are you on? Can I get some?
Jackson was the best thing that happened to Microsoft, Boies was the next best, but not by intention. Jackson was so gratuitously biased that there was no way the appeals court could possibly have backed his decision.
Having watched David Boies in action in the Microsoft, Florida and Napster cases I am convinced that his reputation is vastly over-rated. He was responsible for botching the Microsoft case, he fought the case on the weakest complaints, not the strongest ones. In Florida he let the Bushies roll right over him. His arguments in Napster were profoundly unconvincing.
Re:Overzealous regulators; let the market decide (Score:5, Insightful)
Get real. The free market is a myth. Every market has rules to stop negative behaviour (eg. lying about competitors products, engaging in monopolistic behaviour, running a protection racket) while allowing positive behaviour (eg. improving product, lowering prices).
Re:greedy yanks (Score:5, Insightful)
Europe are prepared to take a stand, and the US just sit back and let people / corporations make all the claims and have all the power they want.
This seems to be evident in the Microsoft Antitrust stuff, the Software Patents Issue and now the SCO case.
Glad I live in europe.
Re:We can only hope (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:We can only hope (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:We can only hope (Score:4, Insightful)
Lets not forget this one, Boies is Lead Counsel for SCO.
Re:This is not about material issues. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Contempt of court? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:We can only hope (Score:5, Insightful)
So any "licensing" request can be directly forwarded to court and converted to a payment request.
Re:pcmag gives undeserved credibility to SCO (Score:5, Insightful)
ZD is notoriously biased towards advertisers. Microsoft being one of their largest ones.
I was a subscriber to Computer Gaming World for years (it used to be by far the BEST gaming magazine) until ZD took over and they started giving glowing reviews to shit games (who advertised).
The old CGW would rip what deserved ripping.
Re:We can only hope (Score:4, Insightful)
Not about lying but about proof. (Score:5, Insightful)
A hell of a difference.
Re:German FUD-suppression system superior to USA's (Score:5, Insightful)
A cradle-to-grave welfare state is a beautiful thing. You're young, healthy and I presume able to have a decent insurance (or you haven't had the pleasure to fall through one of their loopholes yet), but you'll change your tone once you're no longer deemed "productive"...
I currently live in a country with US alike healthcare system, trying to undo some of the 1980's US foreign policy (El Salvador, look it up and weep) and we can't even get our housekeeper and her husband insured. They don't count, the (company-paid) doctors laugh at us. The most we've been able to do is insure her against accidents.
I'll be very glad to move back to Europe next year. Paying my taxes in full, knowing that I'll get it back somehow in education for my daughter, healthcare for my family, a gun-free environment and protection against poverty if we fall from grace.
I just can't believe most Americans think welfare is "liberal"... You just wait and see what happens when something unforseen happens. You'll wish your country (that is presumably you and others who vote) cared a bit more for people in general instead of success stories.
Retarded (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:We can only hope (Score:5, Insightful)
Look at the opposite case: if they HAD presented proof and the preliminary injunction had been defeated, Darl could have had a third volumn of press clippings to dump onstage boasting of his "relevance". Do you think such a press-hungry monkey wouldn't have jumped at the opportunity? In other words, they have been caught in a series of lies, and it's all starting to unravel. Any other interpretation is contrary to the evidence at hand :-)
Re:We can only hope (Score:5, Insightful)
>It seems utterly natural to me that Jackson would come out of the case with a severe distaste for [Microsoft]
And if he'd just had the simple bloody common sense to keep his comments to himself until after the case, that would have been fine. The problem was that he gave interviews during the case, in which he made his feelings clear. He quite literally pre-judged Microsoft. He was trolled, and he bit.
Re:There is a funny game in Germany.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Our enemies are McBride and his gang, not necessarily every SCO employee on this planet.
Re:We can only hope (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, yes, I believe you are corrrect. Although it is a little more complex. They do not have to prove anything at this stage but just convince the judge(s). Whoever looses can then sue, but while an "Einstweilige Verf"ugung" can be gotten very fast, a court date can be many months in the future.
Of course if you do not defend yourself at all against accusations, it is likely that the judge(s) will grant the injunction. I do not think that they have to, but I am no legal expert. Still German law is hugely different from American law.