DeCSS Loses Free Speech Shield

DeCSS Loses Free Speech Shield 613

Posted by simoniker on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:31PM from the might-have-left-it-on-train dept.

JohnGrahamCumming writes "BusinessWeek/CNET is reporting that the California Supreme Court has ruled that 'a Web publisher could be barred from posting DVD-copying code online without infringing on his free speech rights.' They also say that 'the state Supreme Court ruled that property and trade secrets rights outranked free speech rights in this case.'" According to the article, this "...overturned an earlier decision that said blocking Web publishers from posting the controversial piece of software called DeCSS, which can be used to help decrypt and copy DVDs, would violate their First Amendment rights."

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Oh shit! (Score:2, Funny)

by briancollins ( 700695 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:33PM (#6787293)

So this means we're going to have to buy the DVDs? nope [kazaa.com].

Goodbye free speech! (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:33PM (#6787299)

People will miss you! Hey, we have some nice places here in Europe. Come join us! :)

No time now for detailed analysis... (Score:5, Funny)

by Glyndwr ( 217857 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:34PM (#6787310) Homepage Journal

... so here's a "from the gut" reaction.

Ah, shit.

Sometimes, the continued reporting of how our rights as consumers are being eroded makes me want to put slashdot in my barred hosts file. And then move to a cave. I'm sick of this crap, I really am.

T-Shirts (Score:5, Funny)

by N8F8 ( 4562 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:34PM (#6787315)

Dows this mean they have to stop selling the t-shirts too?

Mr. Cox (Score:3, Funny)

by Eberlin ( 570874 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:35PM (#6787318) Homepage

Mr. Cox...come on over to California for your MBA.

Does this mean that DeCSS isn't protected under "fair use" either? Bastages.

In other news..... (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:36PM (#6787335)

This link [bbspot.com] leads to a story about a related case. I know, it's no laughing matter....

DeCSS Meta Comment (Score:5, Funny)

by llamalicious ( 448215 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:39PM (#6787377) Journal
Hmm, feel free to add here folks, I'm going to post a meta comment for this one (you know they're coming)
- I should be able to say/print whatever I want! I am teh 1337!
- The US and all it's USians are heading towards a nihilistic semi-fascist state!
- DeCSS only breaks something that wasn't secure in the first place, who cares!
- Six posts of people willing to host mirrors of DeCSS code
- 4 geeks are going to comment on their DeCSS Perl t-shirts!
- One militant troll is going to suggest we bomb MPAA headquarters
- Someone's going to post DeCSS here on /. to see if they can get the comment removed.
- 3 or 4 trolls who have no idea what DeCSS is are going to ask anyone if they know how to disable regions on their DVD player
- Requisite flames will be posted telling the posters from the last bullet to STFU and RTFA. Or something.
- One or two GNAA trolls (seem to be a dying breed, yay)
- One page widening troll (oh wait, he hasn't shown up lately)
Correct me, mod me, flame me, whip me, beat me. It's all good, you just aren't that important. Should you post something funny/insightful, I might give a shit. :)
damn (Score:2, Funny)

by stagl ( 569675 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:40PM (#6787396) Homepage

what about that t-shirt i got from think geek a while back? should i be nervous? ;)

Which came first? (Score:4, Funny)

by worst_name_ever ( 633374 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:41PM (#6787410)

...the state Supreme Court ruled that property and trade secrets rights outranked free speech rights in this case...
Right, because you know, since property and trade secrets rights are guaranteed in the Zeroth Amendment to the Bill Of Rights, they outrank the First Amendment, don't they?

Re:DeCSS Meta Comment (Score:3, Funny)

by blitzoid ( 618964 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:42PM (#6787424) Homepage

And a partridge in a pear treeeeeee!

Re:Mod Parent Down (Score:5, Funny)

by RMH101 ( 636144 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:43PM (#6787448)

NAZI! NAZI! NAZI!
nope, all ok so far.
your turn: go out into a major city with a broomstick in your hands and shout "allah is great! allah is great" and see how long you last.

Re:What is this DeCSS? (Score:3, Funny)

by Xeth ( 614132 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:45PM (#6787465) Journal

Your sig seems oddly a propos...

Re:T-Shirts (Score:3, Funny)

by IthnkImParanoid ( 410494 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:46PM (#6787488)

Don't forget outlawing a particular prime number, and stopping people from singing along to the DeCSS songs, and keeping people from distributing a gif of the mona lisa with the code padded into it.

Re:illegal prime (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:47PM (#6787493)

extract it with:

#!/usr/bin/perl

Anyone else see the irony in using Perl to make something less obfuscated? :o)

Re:The solution (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:48PM (#6787508)

A better solution would be to write in complete sentences.

Re:Mod Parent Down (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:49PM (#6787517)

your turn: go out into a major city with a broomstick in your hands and shout "allah is great! allah is great" and see how long you last.

A lot longer than someone preaching Christianity in Mecca.

Re:DeCSS Meta Comment (Score:5, Funny)

by bigpat ( 158134 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @04:58PM (#6787636)
- one or two post about how predictable the other comments are
Re:illegal prime (Score:3, Funny)

by korgull ( 267700 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @05:03PM (#6787685) Homepage

you're in some kind of trouble now.
This number was patented I believe.

Re:Hypocritical (Score:3, Funny)

by Xeth ( 614132 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @05:07PM (#6787728) Journal

Because murder/terrorism don't directly affect the level of control that the media conglomerates have.
Sad answer to the rhetorical question...

Where does the input file go in this? (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @05:09PM (#6787754)

where does the input .vob file get inserted here?

Re:No time now for detailed analysis... (Score:3, Funny)

by Blue Lozenge ( 444566 ) * writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @05:41PM (#6788142) Homepage

Sometimes, the continued reporting of how our rights as consumers are being eroded makes me want to put slashdot in my barred hosts file. And then move to a cave.
That would be a cave with a broadband connection, right? I mean... for a second there, I thought you were going a little too far.

And in related news . . . (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @06:07PM (#6788336)

ThinkGeek sold out of DeCSS t-shirts today.

Dear California Supreme Court: +1,FairAndBalanced (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @06:08PM (#6788349)

Eat This:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# 531-byte qrpff-fast, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz
# MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout
# arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order
$_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$b=73;$ c=142;$ t=255;@t=map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=(
$m=(11,10,116,100,1 1,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])$t^=(72, @z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16
-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12 :0,@z)[$_%8]}(16..271);if ((@a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h
=5;$_=unxb24,join"",@ b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$ h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$
d=unxV,xb25,$_;$e=256| (ord$b[4])>8^($f=$t&($d>>12^ $d>>4^
$d^$d/8))>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^ $q>=8)+= $f+(~$g&$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/p ack+/g;eval

Re:The obvious response: (Score:3, Funny)

by gribbly ( 39555 ) writes: on Monday August 25, 2003 @06:18PM (#6788463)

Privilegde is a spelling error!
grib.

Re:The solution (Score:3, Funny)

by Snaller ( 147050 ) writes: on Tuesday August 26, 2003 @06:30AM (#6792307) Journal

Don't host it on a website.. in the US.

There are plenty of other countries that don't have such a crazy legal system.

Which only lasts until America decides to "liberate" the country...

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Oh shit! (Score:2, Funny)

Goodbye free speech! (Score:1, Funny)

No time now for detailed analysis... (Score:5, Funny)

T-Shirts (Score:5, Funny)

Mr. Cox (Score:3, Funny)

In other news..... (Score:2, Funny)

DeCSS Meta Comment (Score:5, Funny)

damn (Score:2, Funny)

Which came first? (Score:4, Funny)

Re:DeCSS Meta Comment (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Mod Parent Down (Score:5, Funny)

Re:What is this DeCSS? (Score:3, Funny)

Re:T-Shirts (Score:3, Funny)

Re:illegal prime (Score:5, Funny)

Re:The solution (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Mod Parent Down (Score:5, Funny)

Re:DeCSS Meta Comment (Score:5, Funny)

Re:illegal prime (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Hypocritical (Score:3, Funny)

Where does the input file go in this? (Score:1, Funny)

Re:No time now for detailed analysis... (Score:3, Funny)

And in related news . . . (Score:1, Funny)

Dear California Supreme Court: +1,FairAndBalanced (Score:3, Funny)

Re:The obvious response: (Score:3, Funny)

Re:The solution (Score:3, Funny)

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