Is the Dean Campaign Spamming? 432
bluelark writes "A few days ago, a friend of mine fowarded to me some spam apparently from the Howard Dean campaign. The sender's return address, however, was dean@america.propulsive.net. In addition, this is not the Texas email we've all heard about. Being bored, I did some research, and I found some intriguing results. If you are interested, I've posted the the technical details and the the spam. Even though the images in the email are being served from Venezuela, the links in the body of the spam are actually redirects from a marketing partner called eScriptions.net to a Dean for America registration page. It appears that the campaign is outsourcing their email with some dubious marketing partners who are then using notorious spamhauses to send out the actual email. Why does a supposedly "net savvy" campaign even think for one second that this approach is acceptable?"
Re:Oh no! (Score:2, Informative)
Still, it's one more example of how technocracy will never come to be.
Re:Dept. of Nasty Tricks (Score:5, Informative)
After the Dean campaign was presented with clear cut evidence as to the nature of emailresponse.net, they investigated promptly and terminated their relationship with the company that same day.
-- jetlag --
Re:Dept. of Honest Mistakes (Score:5, Informative)
I'm a little unsure of the submitter's motives in posting a two-week old story to Slashdot, because if anyone bothers to read the rest of the blog, they'll note that the Dean campaign severed its ties to the Spamhaus when it was informed about the actions being taken in its name.
More balanced coverage from Spamvertized.org [spamvertized.org]
It looks like an honest mistake, and its a shame that some people will fixate on this misstep.
This has already been resolved. (Score:5, Informative)
Official Dean For America Response (Score:5, Informative)
There are currently no third party vendors authorized to send email on behalf of Dean for America and none planned in the future.
Please send any additional complaints to abuse@deanforamerica.com [mailto].
Re:This has already been resolved. (Score:2, Informative)
Do not belive for a SECOND that they didnt know what they were doing. Get a grip dude. They are ALL like that.
Re:you know... (Score:5, Informative)
That being said, isn't anyone on that side of the aisle worried about Dean? I find him to be the easiest Democrat to beat in the fall of 2004. This guy can be turned directly into the scion of leftist antiwar evil with a few carefully placed TV ads.
I have a few worries about his general electability, not because i think he would do a bad job of course, but just because of the smear campaign Bush is likely to run.
However it has been pointed out that Dean's views on gun-control, that it should be left up to the states without any more federal involvement, is likely to pick him up a lot of "single-issue" NRA types. The fact that he's a fiscal conservative who balanced the budget in Vermont, making it one of the very few states with a budget surplus in this time of recession, is likely to pick up some of the Republicans who are more concerned that Bush has turned at 10 year $6 trillion surpluss in a $4 trillion deficit.
The "civil unions" issue will probably hurt him, but he apparently did a very good job of turning a lot people's views around in Vermont, who were initially very against the idea, as long as he stuck with "civil union" rather than "gay marriage." Conservatives get upset about the sanctity of marriage, and homosexuals get upset about the lack of social benefits inherit in marriage, civil unions are a good compromise that doesn't torque off either side off too badly.
Here it is. (Score:5, Informative)
Political speech is exempt from spam label (Score:4, Informative)
From the FTC donotcall site [ftc.gov]:
Will the National Do Not Call Registry cover all telemarketing calls?
Placing your number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop most telemarketing calls, but not all. Some types of calls are exempt. Political organizations, charities, telephone surveyors, and the business of insurance, to the extent that it is regulated by state law, are permitted to call you.
So if this is specifically exempted from the telephone spam rules, presumably it will also be exempted from any future email spam rules, and thus has already been declared perfectly acceptable behavior.
Nothing surprising here ... (Score:5, Informative)
Sorry guys, if you were expecting him to be different from the majority of other politicians then you will be truly disappointed. He might be better than Bush or Lieberman, but not much. If UCE will get him into the Oval Office then UCE it is.
Rutland Herald - Newspapers sue Dean for access to schedule [rutlandherald.com]
Portsmouth Herald - A medical marijuana campaig report card [seacoastonline.com]
My advice: pick another horse.
A legitimate DeanForAmerica email... (Score:2, Informative)
Now, I get spam. Lots. Not like some of you spam-magnets, but a bunch. I also get snail-mail political spam out the wazoo because I joined the ACLU. I actually *asked* for email from the Dean campaign more than a month ago, and have gotten just a single missive.
Yeah, I'm sure that his whole campaign is built on spam. You've convinced me!