Deep Linking Legal in Germany 142
BlueWonder writes "German news site Heise Online reports a recent decision of the Bundesgerichtshof, the highest court in Germany: Deep linking is not illegal.
Newspaper company Verlagsgruppe Handelsblatt had sued the news search engine Paperboy for deep linking to their articles. According to the Bundesgerichtshof, the public interest in a well-working Internet takes precedence over the commercial interests of the newspaper company, even if the advertizing of the company is bypassed.
The Bundesgerichtshof has clarified that users can access any page if they know the URL, and deep linking is just a technical simplification for entering the URL manually. (Warning: links go to German sites - use the fish...)"
Why all the fuss? (Score:5, Interesting)
Sure, you can set your own referer header and fool such things, but "ordinary users" wouldn't bother doing that.
(Or do Big Evil Compaines always try to take legal action first, and if that fails, go for a technical solution?)
Please consider (Score:5, Interesting)
arresting Google [google.com], they provide deep-linking and even CACHE !!!
Oh wait ... you are too lazy to put a robots.txt in your root ?
Re:Why all the fuss? (Score:5, Interesting)
Well, most larger companies hire their own laywers, they might as well keep them busy...
Seriously, I think this is (mostly) another example of the marketing department doing the design work, and not understanding the technology. Then, when they find out that people can bypass their ads, they talk to the programmers.
The programmers tell them that this is the way the protocol is supposed to work, so there's no real way around it without recoding everything to use cookies, registration, headers, and other stuff, which will make the marketing department look bad for not giving good requirements in the first place.
It will make the marketing department look even worse if the programmers said it should be done with cookies, headers, etc and the marketing department did the "we don't have time" routine.
So, drag them to court first.
Note: You can substitute any department/person for "marketing" here, I'm just using them as an example from personal experience.
Re:Why all the fuss? (Score:5, Interesting)
Unfortunally, that approach is inherently flawed. Some proxies remove the HTTP_REFERER header or change it to something else (ever seen those XXX_REFERER removed by SoftwareXYZ in your logs?).
In addition, caches (built into your browser or proxy) in general might get confused by different content that comes with the same URL because it depends upon the HTTP_REFERER header.
bye,
Settel
And in Denmark (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Why all the fuss? (Score:4, Interesting)
As far as I am aware, no software spoofs the Referer header by changing it to another URI. So simply block the people whose referring URI begins with 'http://' and does not come from your domain. Log the ones you block, and whenever any new ones come up, send an email to the webmaster. If a new "privacy enhancer" or whatever appears that does spoof the referrer with a false URI, simply exempt those from your checks.
Remember, you aren't aiming to catch everybody who may possibly come from elsewhere, you are just making it unlikely anyone will deep-link to you.
Not if you send a Vary header. Anything that gets confused by multiple objects available at the same URI when a Vary header is present is deeply broken, and will break in lots of different ways on lots of different sites.
Re:Why all the fuss? (Score:5, Interesting)
It's also important to note that the ruling was about deep linking "per se" and not about accessing content that is protected. The press text reads:
"Ein Berechtigter, der ein urheberrechtlich geschütztes Werk ohne technische Schutzmaßnahmen im Internet öffentlich zugänglich mache, ermögliche dadurch bereits selbst die Nutzungen [...]."
Which means (sorry for my bad English, emphasis mine):
"A benificiary who publicy publishes a copyrighted work without technical protection on the Internet, thereby already permits its use [...].
This makes perfect sense for me.
Re:That doesn't solve all problems. (Score:3, Interesting)
However, I do think it is right that neo-Nazi propaganda is illegal in European countries - not just in Germany, but they have the strictest laws. Even nationalist and radical right-wing propaganda should be legal. In the case of texts that say that the policies of the Nazis who murdered millions of people and that something similar should be started again, I find it, however, right that an exception is made. Among those most active against neo-Nazi and antisemitic websites are organisations of children of survivers of the holocaust, and I find their concerns must be taken seriously (even if they sometimes go too far).
What I also find important in that context is that, in contrast to many laws that have been introduced recently in many countries for the 'war against terror', the restriction of Nazi propaganda is not a new tendency towards more repression, Nazi propaganda has been illegal since the defeat of the Nazis in WW II, and it was a historical necessity (the Americans as one of the occupying powers who liberated Europe from the Nazis hardly objected this ban then). It is important that the ban on Nazi propaganda isn't used as a starting point for more restrictions on the freedom of expression, but as long as it remains an exception for an exceptional ideology that caused such enormous suffering and deaths, there are good reasons to keep it.
The other examples are completely unrelated, and I don't find them convincing. I don't know any other country except Germany where on most parts of highways, there isn't any speed limit, at all. If some more are introduced, this is necessary to prevent accidents and save lives, and the same goes for alcohol limits for drivers. Germany is in no way leading there, in many countries, there are currently attempts to diminish accidents with such measures.
As far as smoking is concerned, there are, indeed, more restrictions than there used to be, but again this is an international development for which there are health reasons, and smoking is much less restricted in Germany than in places like California, New York or Turkmenistan (and although tobacco taxes are rised, cigarettes are still cheaper in Germany than in Great Britain, Scandinavian countries and the US).
Problems of German society? (Score:2, Interesting)
As a German, I cannot really disagree with that. Still, I find Germany a nice country to live in because enough of us are sane and/or bright.
Historically, some forms of hate speech are forbidden out of a desire not to repeat certain experiences that happened in the 1930s and 1940s. Our allied-approved constitution still says "There is no censorship". Of course it was very silly that KISS have a different logo in Germany because it is forbidden to use the runic SS script, which is also a symbol for the SS murderers.
They may not be advertised nor sold to minors. This is hardly extreme. It is also practically useless in stopping minors to get such stuff.
How are drunk driving and poisoning people public rights? There still is no general speed limit on the motorways and I have no sympathy for people who complain about getting caught for speeding.
I agree, however, with your sentiments for the new weapon law. It is practically impossible to legally own a firearm for self defense in Germany. I can only guess that the public allows this because most people do not feel threatened enough by criminals that they feel in need of a gun. And our violent crime rate is relatively low.
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