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Darl McBride Interview 463

mpsmps writes "vnunet.com has a long interview with SCO CEO Darl McBride devoted entirely to the SCO/IBM suit. McBride radiates confidence, describing SCO's contracts as "bullet-proof." He says he thinks IBM is desperate to buy SCO because "the last thing [IBM wants] to hear is the testimony that is going to come out," but that SCO isn't interested in being acquired. Read the interview for much more on these and other topics." See also part 2 and part 3 of the interview.
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Darl McBride Interview

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  • Once again (Score:-1, Funny)

    by rosewood ( 99925 ) <<ur.tahc> <ta> <doowesor>> on Monday June 30, 2003 @05:48AM (#6329281) Homepage Journal
    This case is just huge and I am adicted. I read all the SCO links etc.

    I need to sue slashdot because maybe I am losing money because I keep reading their stories. Seriously, if DirectTV can do it, why cant I, Mr. Joe Average, do it as well?

    (Its 5am)
  • Re:fix (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @05:55AM (#6329296)
    I'm going to have to get you to come in on saturday and fix SOLS. So if you could do that, that'd be great.
  • Vote (Score:5, Funny)

    by cb4b ( 683827 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @05:55AM (#6329297)
    Vote McBride for minister of information!
  • by calebb ( 685461 ) * on Monday June 30, 2003 @05:55AM (#6329298) Homepage Journal

    You've been living in a dreamworld, Mr. McBride.

    Have you ever read some code, Darl, that you were so sure was yours? What if you were unable to prove it? How would you know the difference between your code and GNU's code?

    What is yours? How do you define yours? If you're talking about your opinion, how you feel, taste, smell, or see, then all you're talking about are conjectures - mere electrical signals that are likely misinterpreted by your brain.

    ...do you believe in OSS, Darl?

    Is it so hard to believe? The code is different; The open relays in the binaries and daemons are gone. Look at the time & date management; they weren't Y2K compliant a moment ago.

    Darl: No! I don't believe it. I don't believe it...

    SCO's investors He's gonna pop...

  • by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @05:55AM (#6329299)


    That seems to have an "it's not about sex" ring to it.

  • by GrouchoMarx ( 153170 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @05:56AM (#6329301) Homepage
    "The IBM infidels are not in Utah! And if they are, we are driving them back, and they are falling before us! We cannot be defeated by the infidel Penguinistas! The people of Unix will never fall to the Linux infidels!"

    *glances over shoulder, sees 500 IBM lawyers licking their lips and advancing, carrying briefcases, with black crows taking off before them.*

    "As I was saying, the IBM infidels are not here, and if they are, we are driving them back, and they are falling before us!"
  • by Xpilot ( 117961 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @05:57AM (#6329305) Homepage
    I posted this before, but I made a typo so I'll post it again just for karma. Go ahead, mod me down :p

    ----

    This is how it's going to be settled : IBM sends grim looking men in black suits to SCO, and a representative named "Smith" (who looks oddly familiar) confronts Darl Mcbride.

    Smith: As you can see, we've had our eye on you for some time now, Mr. Mcbride. It seems that you've been living...two lives. In one life, you're Darl McBride, CEO of what used to be a respectable software company, you have a social security number, you pay your taxes, and you help your landlady carry out her garbage. The other life is lived in lawsuits, where you go around accusing everyone that they are guilty of virtually every computer crime we have a law for. One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not. I'm going to be as forthcoming as I can be, Mr. McBride. You're here because we need you to cut it out. We know that you think you can get your ailing company to be bought out. Now whatever you think you know about intelluctual property laws is irrelevant. You actions are considered by the open source community to be the annoying and disruptive. My colleagues believe that I am wasting my time with you but I believe that you wish to do the right thing. We're willing to wipe the slate clean, give you a fresh start and all that we're asking in return is your cooperation in dropping your stupid lawsuits against IBM.

    Darl: Yeah. Wow, that sound like a really good deal. But I think I got a better one. How about I give you the finger... and we see you in court.

    Smith: Um, Mr. Mcbride. You disappoint me.

    Darl: You can't scare me with this Gestapo crap. We own UNIX IP rights. I want my lawyer.

    Smith: And tell me, Mr. McBride, what good is your IP rights... if your company has violated so many of our patents.

    (Smith drops a huge pile of legal papers on the desk with a thud)

    Smith: You're going to help us, Mr. McBride whether you want to or not.

    (Darl screams hysterically)

  • by pytheron ( 443963 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @05:59AM (#6329311) Homepage
    It has said publicly that it moved, and is moving, key parts of AIX, and in fact is willing to move all of AIX over into Linux.

    Surely he can't believe that all of AIX would be moved over ? Maybe that's why he believes his contracts are cast-iron.. perhaps because he is CEO, nobody dares tell him "Hey Darl, our code is crap, and the linux community wouldn't want it anyways"

  • by borgdows ( 599861 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:01AM (#6329318)
    French Minister Dominique De Villepin comments on SCO case :
    "SCO's alleged weapons of legal destruction doesn't exist! The internet crows should continue inspections until everyone know SCO's case is nonsense."
  • Re:fix (Score:0, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:01AM (#6329321)
    Broadcast Message from root@sols
    (/dev/pts/2) at 20:00 ...

    PC Load Letter
    wtf? wtf is PC Load Letter? Fscking SOLS.
  • by Overly Critical Guy ( 663429 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:02AM (#6329323)
    I think one thing's clear, which is that everytime Darl McBride talks to the press, he comes off sounding like an asshole.

    It's a unique situation when a company as powerful as IBM has somebody coming at it with such strong claims as we have in a very public forum. So maybe its supercomputers haven't spat out an algorithm yet on how to respond to this kind of situation. I don't know.

    Haha.
  • Best quote (Score:2, Funny)

    by spacefight ( 577141 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:03AM (#6329325)
    Are you still saying categorically that there is offending code in the Linux kernel?
    Yeah. That one is a no-brainer.

    Uh, we'll see...
  • I dub thee (Score:2, Funny)

    by Vertex Operator ( 100854 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:04AM (#6329330) Homepage

    Sir Comical McBride.

    "We will slaughter IBM."

    "We will great Linus with death and shoes."
  • by Noryungi ( 70322 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:05AM (#6329332) Homepage Journal
    SCO CEO: that thing is bullet-proof!
    IBM lawyer (pointing fingers at CEO's chest): Bang.
    SCO CEO: Aaaaaaaaarrrrgghhhhh...

  • Al-Sahaf? (Score:2, Funny)

    by Vajsvarana ( 238818 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:05AM (#6329333)
    Ok, now I'm pretty sure... the real "Comical Ali" is not the old man interviewed some days ago.
    He has obviously escaped Iraq to take the guide of SCO... but all his fans cannot be fooled by this McBride camouflage. He's the man! He's back! :)
  • by thelandp ( 632129 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:08AM (#6329338)

    SCO - Source code's ours!
    IBM - I'm being mugged.
    Linux - Let's ignore the nuisance use of extortion.
    MS - Monopoly secured. Money stashed. Mess sidestepped.
  • by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:22AM (#6329371)


    > Besides, I hear no rumours on the street (what a marvellous phrase, unattributable yet pseudo-meaningful...) that IBM are interested.

    I think he misunderstood it when he heard someone say "1BM is going ot 0wn SC0 before this is over."

  • by DASHSL0T ( 634167 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:24AM (#6329377) Homepage
    With apologies to Morris Day & The Time.

    SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!

    I, I've been watching you. I think I wanna sue ya, sue ya.
    Said I, I'm litigatious. Nerd, I'd love to show ya, show ya.

    (chorus)
    My lawsuit love, yeah. SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!
    I think I wanna sue ya, sue ya.
    Lawsuit love. SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!
    Nerd, I'm gonna own ya, own ya.

    You, you're an OS star. I think I wanna swipe it, swipe it.
    I ain't playin', said I am quite litigatiuos. Take you to my crib, rip you off.

    (chorus)
    My lawsuit love, yeah. SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!
    I think I wanna sue ya, sue ya.
    Lawsuit love. SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!
    Nerd, I'm gonna own ya, own ya.

    Come on Linus, where's your guts? You wanna make love or what?

    I wanna take you to my cage, lock you up and hide the key.
    You only get water and to look at MFC. Then you'll have a breakdown and give your code to me.

    (chorus)
    My lawsuit love, yeah. SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!
    I think I wanna sue ya, sue ya.
    Lawsuit love. SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!
    Nerd, I'm gonna own ya, own ya.

    I think I wanna ... I wanna file my case.

    (chorus)
    My lawsuit love, yeah. SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!
    I think I wanna sue ya, sue ya.
    Lawsuit love. SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!
    Nerd, I'm gonna own ya, own ya.

    Lawsuit love, that's right. Can't nobody fuck with me?
    I got 80 lines of crappy code, I got a contract with IBM too.
    And I'm all the way wild Torvy. All the things I could do to you.

    SCO-wee-oh-wee-oh!

    Lawsuit love. Yes! That's it. Ha haa!
  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:37AM (#6329413)

    VNUNET.COM

    We're sorry, but vnunet.com is temporarily unavailable while we conduct essential upgrades.

    Our technical team is working hard to restore the site as quickly as possible.

    Please come back to vnunet.com shortly.

    ©VNU Business Publications Ltd

    Essential upgrades huh ? I didn't know replacing melted-down ethernet cables counted as upgrading ...
  • by Mr2cents ( 323101 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:47AM (#6329427)
    .. who always misreads this guy's name as "McBribe"?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:50AM (#6329432)
    McBride: I don't want to go to a Federal pound-me-in-the-add prison. In fact, I don't want to go to any prison! You, David Boies, are a very bad man!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:50AM (#6329434)
    STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
    My Dear Friend IBM,

    I am highly compelled upon strict recommendation, to write you this very urgent and confidential letter.I do hope my letter will not embarrass you since I had no previous correspondence with you.I hope this mail will not come to you as a surprise.I am sending this proposal with due sense of humanity, responsibility and with few awareness that you will give it a sympathetic attention. I regret to the inconvenience it may cause you base on the condition that we have not met before.

    I wish to use this opportunity to introduce myself to you, I am Mr. Darl McBride,the CEO of the former proprietor of Unixware in my home city of Lindon, Utah, My Vice President Christopher Sontag had a synflood shot by the GNU rebels on his way travelling to White Plains, a city after New York, your headquarters along with my daughter, My daughter died on the spot while the HP-UX team rescued my Vice President, he was taken to hospital for medical treatment which he later died about three months now.

    Fortunately, My Company has Ten million and Five hundred thousand United States Dollars(US$10.5 million) cash, which he intended to use for investment purposes overseas. This money is kept with private security company in Europe since two years ago. It is only my son and myself that know where the money is kept and has the documents for it.

    Due to the current situation in the market concerning GNU's vendettas towards my family, we seek your assistance to transfer the ownership of this fund to you so that you can asisst us to claim it and used for the purpose of investment as intended by my Vice President.

    My family is currently being probed by this present GNU for alleged involvement in misappropriation of GPL code during his regime.

    Towards this effect, an embargo restricting my family members from traveling or carrying out financial transactions without their express permission is in force. Right now, my son and myself have concluded plans and decided to take immediate claim of this fund so that we can use it to better our lives and alliviate our present suffering hence this contact.

    However, I have an arrangement on how you can help us to recieve this money after receiving some assurances from you. The money personally belongs to my Vice President and he intended that it still be used for investment. No record ever existed concerning this money, neither is the money traceable by the GNU rebels because there is no documentation concerning the funds in the SEC reports. Bearing in mind that your assistance is needed to transfer this fund, we propose a commission of 20% (Twenty Percent) of the total sum to you for the expected services and assistance. While 5% is mapped out for miscellaneous expenses.

    On your positive consent, I shall expect you to contact me urgently to enable us discuss about this.Your urgent response is highly needed. I must use this opportunity to implore you to exercise utmost indulgence to keep this matter extraordinarily confidential, while I await your prompt response.

    Best regards,

    MR. DARL MCBRIDE, SCO LINDON UTAH

  • by Jaysyn ( 203771 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:52AM (#6329438) Homepage Journal
    "In fact I fail to u'stand Slashdot's motives in continuing this sequence of non-articles about SCO. News for nerds? Gossip, maybe. Stuff that matters? Matters to whom? No one but SCO."

    Apparently, you've never watched a train wreck before. Once you know a disaster is about to occur, it's kinda hard to take your eyes off.

    Jaysyn
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @06:53AM (#6329440)
    When a CEO is engaging in this much chest thumping and postering over "bullet proof" cases, you can be fairly sure of two things:

    1. The CEO knows he is in trouble.
    2. Its about as bullet proof as a sponge.

    Me McBride, you Jane. We go sue now! Aieahahah!
  • by Tsu Dho Nimh ( 663417 ) <abacaxi@@@hotmail...com> on Monday June 30, 2003 @07:01AM (#6329466)
    DMcB says "So as we move into discovery this will be very nice for us, because now we get to go in and talk to all their people, their customers. We get to really shake things up and find out what really is going on over there." ... "In discovery you get to go in and investigate the things that relate to the case, and there are a broad range of things that relate to Linux and AIX. We will be going in with a fine-toothed comb and coming up with every detail."

    He doesn't appear to realize that IBM can do the same to SCO with their discovery process. I feel like I'm watching The Birds, and Darl is heading for the door to the attic.

  • McBride (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @07:14AM (#6329509)
    Here's a picture of McBride, particularly useful to people in Utah: http://www.sco.com/company/execs/dmcbride.html This guy better hope I never run into him in a dark alley.
  • Re:SfCuOd (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @07:16AM (#6329518)
    "I'd like to hear anyones opinion that thinks SCO has a case."

    I think they have a case! No, seriously, they probably have several. The biggest case of them all is McBride.

    Oh, you mean [i]legal[/i] case, not nutcase. No, not a chance in hell.
  • by Alsee ( 515537 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @07:34AM (#6329568) Homepage
    July 1st, 2003:
    IBM serves SCO for infringing of ONE IBM patent.

    July 2st, 2003:
    IBM serves SCO for infringing of ONE IBM patent.

    July 3st, 2003:
    IBM serves SCO for infringing of ONE IBM patent.

    July 4st, 2003:
    Happy independance day USA!
    IBM serves SCO for infringing of ONE IBM patent.

    July 5st, 2003:
    IBM serves SCO for infringing of ONE IBM patent.

    .
    .
    .

    Janyary 1st, 2004:
    Happy new year everyone!
    IBM serves SCO for infringing of ONE IBM patent.

    -
  • by kevin lyda ( 4803 ) * on Monday June 30, 2003 @07:58AM (#6329641) Homepage
    go read /etc/termcap:

    # Some information has been merged in from a terminfo file SCO distributes.
    # It has an obnoxious boilerplate copyright which I'm ignoring because they
    # took so much of the content from the ancestral BSD versions of this file
    # and didn't attribute it, thereby violating the BSD Regents' copyright.

    sco's been trying to hide the infringing code. now i've found it so i get to put words in mcbride's mouth: curses! foiled again.

    this is such silly evidence that it proves what we've known all along - sco is in terminal condition.
  • by cenonce ( 597067 ) <anthony_t@mac.cRABBITom minus herbivore> on Monday June 30, 2003 @08:24AM (#6329749)

    McBride radiates confidence

    Gee... ignorance really is bliss...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @08:24AM (#6329752)
    "I'm having a hard time deciding whether McBride is truly stupid"

    Well, he's running a very large company, and you are Joe Slashdot Poster #11346 of 600000. I'm not a gambling man, but..
  • by confused one ( 671304 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @08:46AM (#6329847)
    And once again dude, you (and The Matrix) have made the same mistake. IBM's lawyers don't wear Black suits. They wear Dark Blue suits!

  • by RenHoek ( 101570 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @09:10AM (#6330007) Homepage
    DEAR DARL,

    I HOPE I REACH YOU IN GOOD HEALTH.

    SINCE I HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF SIAMILAR EMAILS BEFORE, I CAN GIVE YOU A FEW POINTERS TO MAKE IT MORE CONVINCNG.

    YOUR EMAIL SHOULD BE IN ALL CAPS, FOR ALL THE EMALS I'VE RECEIVED ALL SEEM TO BE NI THIS FORMAT!

    A FEW EXCLA1MATION MARKS WOULDN'T HURT EITHER!!

    ALSO YOU SEEM TO RUN A SPELLCHECKOR, THIS IS VERY BAD, SINCE THESE EMAILS ARE USUALLY WRITTEN WHILE FLEEING THE COUNTRY, YOU DO NOT HAVE TIME TO SPEELLCHECK!

    WHEN YOU ARE SUCCESSFULL PLEASE WRITE TO ME MY FRIEND, FOR I HAVE $45 MILLION DOLLARS (US) IN GOLD IN A DEPOSIT IN IRAQ, AND I NEED SOME MONEY TO BRIBE THE CUSTOM OFFICIALS. I CAN GIVE YOU 15%!!!

    KIND REGARDS FROM YOUR FRIEND
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @09:52AM (#6330259)
    DEEP blue, not dark! you idiot!
  • by lboxman ( 587913 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @09:53AM (#6330262)
    Sounds like he took lessons from "comical Ali", the Iraqi information minister, in "how to deny what is obviously going on with a straight face".
  • by omarKhayyam ( 544074 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @10:10AM (#6330375)
    This guy seems to fit somewhere between Steve Jobs and the Iraqi information minister on the RDF meter. Now if he starts talking about IBM "surrendering", I think that will tip the scales.
  • by Kjella ( 173770 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @10:44AM (#6330696) Homepage
    July 1st, 2003:
    IBM serves SCO for infringing on ONE IBM patent.

    July 2st, 2003:
    IBM serves SCO for infringing on TWO IBM patents.

    July 3st, 2003:
    IBM serves SCO for infringing on FOUR IBM patents.

    July 4st, 2003:
    Happy independance day USA!
    IBM serves SCO for infringing on EIGHT IBM patents.

    July 5st, 2003:
    IBM serves SCO for infringing on SIXTEEN IBM patents.

    .
    .
    .

    Janyary 1st, 2004:
    Happy new year everyone!
    IBM serves SCO for infringing on Life, The Universe and Everything, as patented by IBM.

    Kjella
  • by Master of Transhuman ( 597628 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @11:40AM (#6331181) Homepage
    YOUR FREND SADDAM...

  • by macshune ( 628296 ) on Monday June 30, 2003 @12:30PM (#6331617) Journal
    Yeah, and sometimes I read it as "McFly."
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 30, 2003 @03:38PM (#6333283)
    Darl is trying to weave 25 years of history, weird contracts, unclear ownership into something of value.

    He's ignoring precedent, logic, honesty, and common sense all in the name of "Shareholder value".

    I'm calling BULLSHIT on this one. The man hasn't any integrity, and trying to clothe this in some sort of "defending shareholder interest" in disingenuous and wrong. Darl is for Darl. And in his work, he really believes "fuck the shareholders, I'm gonna be rich".

    I'm saying a prayer:

    "Dear Jesus
    Send the cleansing cancer to Darl. Make him go slowly, so slowly that it bankrupts him and his family. In your loving care we pray, Amen"

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