RIAA Not Done With Jesse Jordan 488
digime writes "In a recent Slashdot article it was reported that 19-year-old college student Jesse Jordan gave up his life savings to the RIAA for running a campus search engine. He has recovered over 83% of his savings lost to the RIAA, and his search engine is back up. "The RIAA started yelling and tried to rescind my order of dismissal after they signed it because of comments that I made on CNN.", Jordan says on his site. "A very well-known top lawyer at the RIAA, while making threats of further legal actions, referred to himself as a 'dentist' that I would not want to 'have another visit with'"
The search engine is NOT back up (Score:5, Informative)
Apparently, that is not correct, as it says the following on the search engine's website [chewplastic.com] (also linked in the article):He does, however, say "I am legally allowed to run my search engine - it is not forbidden by my dismissal. I have a first amendment right to free speech.", so maybe he intends to bring the search engine back up for real
Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
I don't think Jessee will mind a mirror of the settlement PDF.
Just wait.. (Score:5, Informative)
Jesus, what a family legacy..
RTFA and the previous one, and the.... (Score:5, Informative)
The guy was not violating any copyrights....
He's running a search engin, remember?He is NOT, repeat, NOT, hosting the files. Talking about search engins, there's one you should know about.... it's here [google.com].... Oh wait.... If you search for ANYKNOWNARTIST.mp3... there's a 25% chance that the robot has indexed a page with a link to the file... Well, damn those criminals, lets sue them....
As stated in a post above, the RIAA have exactly the same legal right to go after Altavista, Google or whatever.
Page Generation: 95.88 Seconds (Score:3, Informative)
Legal Issues: Order of Dismissal
Saturday, June 21 @ 01:46:07 EDT by chew (96 reads)
I have posted my Order of Dismissal (settlement) to the lawsuit filed against me by the RIAA. As stated in the settlement, I settled solely to avoid the costs of litigation. There is a very long story behind my settlement.
I am truly appalled by the RIAA's unprofessional conduct in dealing with my case. A very well-known top lawyer at the RIAA, while making threats of further legal actions, referred to himself as a "dentist" that I would not want to "have another visit with". I will not be intimidated by the RIAA - they're just going to have to put up with me.
The RIAA started yelling and tried to rescind my order of dismissal after they signed it because of comments that I made on CNN. Despite the $12,000 figure in my settlement, the other terms of the settlement were carefully negotiated over the course of several weeks.
"My fundamental view is that people should not be able to walk away from a deal they've made.", says RIAA CEO Hilary Rosen in response to California issues over artist contracts. It would seem to follow that the RIAA should understand the concept of a legally binding agreement. If an artist signs a contract and then later decides that they don't like the terms of that contract, the labels should understand now because that is exactly what they did with my dismissal (my dismissal is a legally binding agreement).
It is time to call the RIAA to task on their clear hypocrisy on many issues. I am legally allowed to run my search engine - it is not forbidden by my dismissal. I have a first amendment right to free speech. On the surface, the RIAA claims to support the right to free speech - but only when it benefits their bottom line. When their victim speaks out against them, they step up the intimidation.
They were so desperate to undo my dismissal that they were resorting to blatant lies. I have even been accused of tricking the RIAA into signing my dismissal.
Unfortunately for the RIAA, their basis for undoing the dismissal was so ridiculous that the judge didn't even take up my offer to mediate with the RIAA over their issues with the dismissal - he decided to enter the agreement.
A number of documents surrounding this issue will soon be published. For now, read my order of dismissal.
http://jessej.chewplastic.com/dismissal.pdf
Re:Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
I have posted my Order of Dismissal (settlement) to the lawsuit filed against me by the RIAA. As stated in the settlement, I settled solely to avoid the costs of litigation. There is a very long story behind my settlement.
I am truly appalled by the RIAA's unprofessional conduct in dealing with my case. A very well-known top lawyer at the RIAA, while making threats of further legal actions, referred to himself as a "dentist" that I would not want to "have another visit with". I will not be intimidated by the RIAA - they're just going to have to put up with me.
The RIAA started yelling and tried to rescind my order of dismissal after they signed it because of comments that I made on CNN. Despite the $12,000 figure in my settlement, the other terms of the settlement were carefully negotiated over the course of several weeks.
"My fundamental view is that people should not be able to walk away from a deal they've made.", says RIAA CEO Hilary Rosen in response to California issues over artist contracts. It would seem to follow that the RIAA should understand the concept of a legally binding agreement. If an artist signs a contract and then later decides that they don't like the terms of that contract, the labels should understand now because that is exactly what they did with my dismissal (my dismissal is a legally binding agreement).
It is time to call the RIAA to task on their clear hypocrisy on many issues. I am legally allowed to run my search engine - it is not forbidden by my dismissal. I have a first amendment right to free speech. On the surface, the RIAA claims to support the right to free speech - but only when it benefits their bottom line. When their victim speaks out against them, they step up the intimidation.
They were so desperate to undo my dismissal that they were resorting to blatant lies. I have even been accused of tricking the RIAA into signing my dismissal.
Unfortunately for the RIAA, their basis for undoing the dismissal was so ridiculous that the judge didn't even take up my offer to mediate with the RIAA over their issues with the dismissal - he decided to enter the agreement.
A number of documents surrounding this issue will soon be published. For now, read my order of dismissal.
Re:Where's teh EFF ? (Score:3, Informative)
>google and alta vista immune from similar suits?
>Simple -- they can pay lawyers who could kick the
>crap out of the RIAA.
How? They can afford lawyers. College students can't. It's really quite as simple as that. Set the precedent in the court with someone unable to defend themselves and then you can start getting the bigger fish. The same thing happened with Divine, Inc. [divineintervention.us] . Thing is, Divine went Chap 11. So whoever buys their property will do it all again. Lucky us.
But no music (Score:2, Informative)
Looks like he is obeying the settlement.
Jordan hasn't decided fate of search engine (Score:5, Informative)
He also explained the reason the Phynd search engine is "up" right now is so people can see how it worked and let people decided for themselves if he broke the law and so media members, like myself, can see how it worked and have a better idea of how to describe it in articles.
Re:double offences (Score:3, Informative)
More to the point, double jeopardy does not apply to civil cases between litigants. It only applies to criminal cases.
Money can be argued over forever.
KFG
Re:Where's teh EFF ? (Score:4, Informative)
If you want to set a precedent, you have to sue someone who can afford to appeal it up to a pretty high level, since precedent is mostly set with appellate court opinions.
Donations (Score:5, Informative)
One of the other college students sued by the RIAA, Daniel Peng, also has a paypal donation page [arbornet.org].
Re:No new CDs (Score:5, Informative)
So, if you are speaking of mass producd silver discs, they are pressed. Individually produced discs off a burner are burned. The distinction can be an important one when you are talking about selling CDs since pressed CDs are much cheaper per unit, but have a higher minimum production run.
Re:From Slashdot? (Score:3, Informative)
I'm simply never buying another thing from a company who puts the burden of supporting their cd-check on the customer. I bought Diablo 2 from them and the cd-check always failed. Turned out it didn't like my burner (my only cd drive). I emailed Blizzard and their response was "Buy a new CD drive". Fuckers. Of course the store I bought the game at wouldn't take it back.
Later I found all this was for naught, D2 sucked ass anyways. Well, it's an expensive lesson, but I'll never buy anything they do again, and I'll tell people my story so they know what sort of treatment they'll get if they have a problem.
Re:Prepaid legal service is a must nowadays (Score:1, Informative)
Read your contract carefully... and you'll find they will "refer" you to an expert should a case get ugly (require serious litigation)... at a "reduced" rate. You'll still be paying hundreds of dollars an hour, and require a hefty retainer up-front, as well as all costs advanced.
Don't ever bother with a prepaid legal plan. It isn't worth the contract it's written on.
Re:Prepaid legal service is a must nowadays (Score:3, Informative)
Frankly, my opinion of pre-paid legal is that it is a scam. (And I use legal services fairly often, too...)
-jerdenn
What he said on CNN... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:From Slashdot? (Score:2, Informative)
As long as you buy data CD-Rs you're fine unless you're unlucky enough to be Canadian. Only audio CD-Rs get taxed usually. At least, in my state they do.
Re:Dentist... how appropriate (Score:3, Informative)
RIAA Leadership:
Hilary B. Rosen, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Cary Sherman, President
Board of Directors
â Roger Ames, Warner Music Group
â Michele Anthony, Sony Music Entertainment Inc.
â Val Azzoli, The Atlantic Group
â Jose Behar, Univision Music Group
â Bob Cavallo, Buena Vista Music Group
â Ronnie Dashev, Maverick Recording Company
â Clive Davis, RCA Music Group
â Tracey Edmonds, Edmonds Record Group
â Dick Griffey, Solar Records/J.Hines Co.
â Zach Horowitz, Universal Music Group
â Don Ienner, Sony Music U.S.
â David Johnson, Warner Music Group
â Lawrence Kenswil, Universal Music Group
â Mel Lewinter, Universal Music Group
â Alain Levy, EMI Recorded Music
â Roy Lott, Virgin Records
â David Munns, EMI Recorded Music Worldwide
â Antonio Reid, Arista Records Inc.
â Sylvia Rhone, Elektra Entertainment Group
â Rolf Schmidt-Holtz, BMG Entertainment
â Tom Silverman, Tommy Boy Music
â Andy Slater, Capitol Records
â Thomas Stein, BMG Entertainment
â Tom Tyrrell, Sony Music Entertainment, Inc.
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