DeCSS Arguments in CA Supreme Court Case

DeCSS Arguments in CA Supreme Court Case 531

Posted by michael on Friday May 30, 2003 @10:49AM from the wheels-of-justice dept.

scubacuda writes "According to News.com, California Attorney General Bill Lockyer called DVD-cracking software DeCSS a tool for "breaking, entering and stealing" during a hearing before the California Supreme Court on Thursday. "The program DeCSS is a burglary tool," Lockyer told the judges, adding that the movie studios lose millions of dollars because of piracy over the Internet. (CopyLeft offers this "burglary tool" on a t-shirt)" If you've forgotten what this case is about, see EFF's page about it.

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Right... (Score:5, Funny)

by g0at ( 135364 ) writes: <ben @ z ygoat.ca> on Friday May 30, 2003 @10:51AM (#6076747) Homepage Journal

DeCSS is a burglary tool just like how I'm actually growing dildos in my vegetable garden.

Field of Dreams (Score:4, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @10:56AM (#6076792)

If you grow them, they will cum.

Re:Doesn't it seem odd... (Score:5, Funny)

by Hypocritical Guy ( 674824 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @10:57AM (#6076799) Homepage Journal

That a tool that allows people to copy their DVD's for their own purposes is "a tool for burglary", yet a gun which allows people to kill other people is a "right"?

This makes me so angry I want to go shoot someone!

Re:This again??? (Score:5, Funny)

by krystal_blade ( 188089 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:04AM (#6076892)

No, the argument against "Vicious Rectal Colonizing" is what spawned the revision of personal property laws versus the common good.

That argument still gets around from time to time though.

krystal_blade

Re:So that's how... (Score:4, Funny)

by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:05AM (#6076894) Journal

those bastards got into my house and stole my Do It Yourself Masturbation Kit (tm).
They stole your hand? That's got to hurt...

I've always said: (Score:3, Funny)

by cavemanf16 ( 303184 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:05AM (#6076899) Homepage Journal

If the RIAA and MPAA don't want to let their movies and music get copied, then simply don't distribute it enmasse to untrusted sources via 8-track, cassette tape, LP, CD, CD-ROM, DVD, etc! It's as easy as that!

Oh, wait... no one wants to go spend $20 to take themselves and a significant other to the movie theatre for one showing of "The Hot Chick," but they'll rent it or buy it on DVD for the EXACT SAME PRICE for multiple viewings? Guess my idea of "customer value" should have been thrown out a long time ago along with my ideas that are counter-culture to the new socialism: Sue companies to get rich!

Silly me.

Re:This again??? (Score:2, Funny)

by 91degrees ( 207121 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:09AM (#6076947) Journal

No. The VCR was compared to The Boston Strangler. This is just compared to a burglary tool.

Clearly the motion picture industry's attitude is softening a little.

Unrelated comments? (Score:2, Funny)

by 91degrees ( 207121 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:12AM (#6076994) Journal

"The program DeCSS is a burglary tool," Lockyer told the judges, adding that the movie studios lose millions of dollars because of piracy over the Internet.

Do those statements have anythiong to do with each other? how about this one - "Cheese is smelly and horrible", says Bob Blob, adding that millions of people worldwide are starving.

Piracy is such a harsh word (Score:5, Funny)

by scubacuda ( 411898 ) writes: <scubacuda@gmai[ ]om ['l.c' in gap]> on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:13AM (#6077007)

I prefer to call it

(hand over one eye)

ARRRRRR-chiving!

Don't panic. (Score:5, Funny)

by grub ( 11606 ) writes: <slashdot@grub.net> on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:14AM (#6077012) Homepage Journal

It's only a matter of time before SCO [sco.com] decides they own the rights to all motion picture technology and tries to sue the RIAA.

Re:Hrmm (Score:4, Funny)

by mahdi13 ( 660205 ) writes: <icarus.lnx@gmail.com> on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:24AM (#6077143) Journal

The lawers are just pissed off because what their clients worked hard on for 3 years was reverse engineered by a teenager over spring break =)

Re:Right... (Score:2, Funny)

by bigbadbuccidaddy ( 160676 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:25AM (#6077152)

I represent Monsanto and you are illegaly using our genetically engineered dildo seeds without a proper license. Please cease and decist this illegal behavior.

Re:Slim Jims (Score:2, Funny)

by FroMan ( 111520 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:25AM (#6077153) Homepage Journal

Yeah, we all know slim jims are only used for nefarious purposes. I mean, their advertising is totally reeking of it. "Break into a slim jim" and you have a huge muscular guy who is a wrestler (which coincidentally looks like a thug) who shouts that phrase. I'd have to say slim jims should be illegal. Regular beef jerky for everyone. None of that sausage crap.

Re:Slim Jims (Score:2, Funny)

by sean23007 ( 143364 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:30AM (#6077218) Homepage Journal

I can buy Slim Jims [slimjim.com] at my local gas station.

O/T: Your Sig (Score:5, Funny)

by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:31AM (#6077228) Journal

EULA? I'm compliant. I made my changes to it and clicked "AGREE".
I've wondered about that. The old version of windows update allowed you to agree to the EULA displayed in a box before the text had loaded, so I agreed to an empty EULA. Another version used an editable text box for the EULA. I replaced it with text stating that a 51% share in Microsoft Corporation became my property as a result of accepting the conditions, and clicked Okay. This leaves us with two options. For a contract to be legally binding, it must be legally binding for both parties so either EULAs are not legally binding, or I own MS. If the second is true then Balmer, you are so fired.

Re:Piracy is such a harsh word (Score:5, Funny)

by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:34AM (#6077265) Journal

Hi, maybe I can help you. I run an offsite backup service, tailored for your DVD backups. If you send me a backup copy of your DVD collection, then I will store it for you, free of charge...

Re:What? (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:38AM (#6077309)

Just because A is the first letter of the alphabet, doesn't mean that Apples are green!!

Of course, as any Randroid will tell you:

A is A!

Re:Not purchase: license (Score:4, Funny)

by Poeir ( 637508 ) writes: <poeir@geo.yahoo@com> on Friday May 30, 2003 @11:38AM (#6077310) Journal

Hey, great! I can't find part I of my Fellowship of the Ring DVD, I think it was lost during the move, where do I send for another piece of media so I can still use my license?

Yeah! (Score:3, Funny)

by Greyfox ( 87712 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @12:03PM (#6077544) Homepage Journal

God damn DECSS! If it weren't for that, all those copies of "The Matrix, Reloaded" wouldn't be on the Internet right now.
What? er... nevermind.

Copyleft now a defendant?! (Score:5, Funny)

by Superfreaker ( 581067 ) writes: on Friday May 30, 2003 @12:23PM (#6077712) Homepage Journal

Did anyone notice this:
"Well the inevitable has happened, Copyleft is now named as a defendant in the DVD-CCA case in California. "

Just for selling a shirt with the code printed on it?! I can't compile a shirt!

'Begin lameness
I know the shirt is soft wear, but this is ridiculous

Re:Hrmm (Score:3, Funny)

by tomhudson ( 43916 ) writes: <barbara.hudson@b ... m ['son' in gap]> on Friday May 30, 2003 @01:18PM (#6078297) Journal
It's Friday, so it's my turn to feed the trolls :-)
<troll-feeding mode on>
1. Not to mention you appear to not understand many of the nasty clauses of the DMCA that are designed just for things like CSS
  The limits of the DMCA are being tested by cases like this ...
2. this refutation contains some of the most ridiculously pedantic assdrippings I've ever read.
  This is a court case, so we're talking about lawyers. Gotta be pedantic, the whole "when in Rome..." thing :-)
3. As to that whole Windows comment...what the fuck was all that about?
  
  Sorry you couldn't figure it out, I'm sure most other readers will be able to, tho...
4. If we're lucky, you'll have a near-death experience soon ... If we're very lucky, said experience will be the result of someone kicking your ass for being annoying.
  You're welcome to try next time you're in Montreal . Weapon of choice - Canadian Beer. Bet even my dogs can out-drink you.
<troll-feeding mode off>

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Right... (Score:5, Funny)

Field of Dreams (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Doesn't it seem odd... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:This again??? (Score:5, Funny)

Re:So that's how... (Score:4, Funny)

I've always said: (Score:3, Funny)

Re:This again??? (Score:2, Funny)

Unrelated comments? (Score:2, Funny)

Piracy is such a harsh word (Score:5, Funny)

Don't panic. (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Hrmm (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Right... (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Slim Jims (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Slim Jims (Score:2, Funny)

O/T: Your Sig (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Piracy is such a harsh word (Score:5, Funny)

Re:What? (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Not purchase: license (Score:4, Funny)

Yeah! (Score:3, Funny)

Copyleft now a defendant?! (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Hrmm (Score:3, Funny)

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