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Bonzi Class Action Suit Settled: No Foolin'! 376

An anonymous reader writes "According to this article in the Toronto Star, a class action suit against Bonzi Software has reached a settlement. Bonzi will not pay damages but will be required to stop using fake user interface (FUI) style error messages to trick users into clicking on their banners. This is a big win for the community as it will help to improve the Internet's ailing perceived user experience. Most of you have seen Bonzi's banners, and probably most of you won't admit to having been fooled by them at some point. Well, imagine how many novice computer users were tricked into installing again, or paying for software they really did not need. Congratulations and thanks to Lukins & Annis for a job well done. Interestingly, bonzi.com has been returning connection refused all day. This is usually one of the net's busiest sites."
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Bonzi Class Action Suit Settled: No Foolin'!

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  • by PhxBlue ( 562201 ) on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:06PM (#6059078) Homepage Journal

    It doesn't, truthfully; but those novice users are still responsible for their actions. More importantly, this will help future novice users from falling for the same spiel. Sometimes, that's all you can do.

  • Client Side sotware. (Score:5, Informative)

    by zbowling ( 597617 ) * <zac.zacbowling@com> on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:17PM (#6059219) Homepage Journal
    Spyware Blaster (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.ht ml) is nice because it prevents spyware from installing by fooling Windows into thinking its already installed by making regisitry keys with the spyware ClassIDs. It also prevents you from seeing ads and spyware by changing IE's privacy host to reject anything from a list of spyware domains. (even doubleclick.net so about half the ads on the internet disapeared in IE for me) It also auto-updates its known host list. This will only help you prevent spyware, but it also comes with a tool for reseting your browser pages. (So if you installed yahoo bar and can't figure out where it reset your default search page and error pages at in the regisitry this will help).

    Ad-aware (http://www.lavasoft.de/index.html) is a nice client side product for scanning and cleaning out spyware from your system. Its free version will do almost everything the paid version will but it won't doing anything automaticaly.

    mynetwatchman.com does a very good job at listing bad hostnames and ips so if you want you can check that site for more info.

    Hope that helps!

  • Re:Cavaliers (Score:3, Informative)

    by Jack Comics ( 631233 ) * <jack_comics@nOSpAm.postxs.org> on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:19PM (#6059234) Homepage
    Sigh. Kids these days. You assumed incorrectly. It was a reference to the science-fiction cult classic film Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai in the Eighth Dimension." [figmentfly.com] It was a movie made in 1984, starring Peter Weller, John Lithgow, Ellen Barkin, Jeff Goldblum, Christopher Lloyd, and Clancy Brown. A television series based on the movie has been in development Hell for the past few years. Who knows if it'll actually see daylight. But the original movie remains a classic, and some semi-famous quotes, including "No matter where you go, there you are," came from the film.
  • Re:Overstated Impact (Score:5, Informative)

    by LostCluster ( 625375 ) on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:19PM (#6059236)
    I don't think settlements have any value as far as precedent goes.

    IANAL, but they do...

    See, this settlement means that it's not correct to say that Bonzi lost the lawsuit, but it does allow somebody to say that Bonzi didn't win either. They gave up, indicating that Bonzi didn't believe enough in its own argument to bother to take it to a judge or jury.

    So, to the next Bonzi-like company that comes along the message is that FUI isn't likely to be defendable in court. Yeah, there's a chance somebody else could defend the use of FUI in court and end up a winner because in the eyes of the court this is still an undecided question. However, in the eyes of the greedy businessman there's already a precedent logged in the world's history that says the first company to try to use FUI in a bold way got a public embarassment and was forced to accept an agreement that made them promise to never use FUI again.

    Will there eventually be somebody willing to take the chance that FUI will stand up in court, of course. However, there's a good number of business people who when shown what happened to Bonzi will take that information and conclude that "somebody already tried that and failed" and take their company's marketing in a differnt direction, so it's going to be a good long time before somebody bold enough to make heavy use of FUI comes along.

    FUI's not dead, but this settlement has it hospitalized.
  • Re:Gimme a 'P'! (Score:3, Informative)

    by TamMan2000 ( 578899 ) on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:20PM (#6059240) Journal
    This is a settlement, no precedent here, move along now...
  • by zrodney ( 253699 ) on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:21PM (#6059257)
    Most of you have seen Bonzi's banners...

    nope -- I don't see any of them anymore thanks to the userContent.css style sheet.

    it will match urls for ads and replace the image with nothing. So, you get the web page without any irritating ads at all.

    The css lines are customizable as much as you like. They look like this:

    A:link[HREF*="?click"] IMG { display: none ! important }
    A:link[HREF*="?banner"] IMG { display: none ! important }

    more details and the file at this url:
    http://www.fogcat5.com/twiki/bin/view/Fogcat/Mozil laCustomize [fogcat5.com]

  • Re:my dad used it... (Score:5, Informative)

    by terrymr ( 316118 ) <terrymr@@@gmail...com> on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:21PM (#6059259)
    They have 30 days to stop using the popups.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:31PM (#6059368)
    Sorry, but there is no such thing as "virii". The plural of virus is viruses.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:36PM (#6059427)
    Or go one better and block everything from hosts you don't like. Check out: this [smartin-designs.com] for info on how to do this and a great big list of sites worth blocking. I added an index.html to my localhost web server with a message indicating add content has been blocked, and I can't begin to tell you how often I see it.
  • Just use a mac... (Score:2, Informative)

    by buserror ( 115301 ) * on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:37PM (#6059438)
    So that their banner look like... stupid banners!

    Now, where is the class action suit against stroboscope ones ?
  • Re:my dad used it... (Score:3, Informative)

    by zbowling ( 597617 ) * <zac.zacbowling@com> on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @02:40PM (#6059464) Homepage Journal
    Micrsoft Bob was started by Mellinda Gates as well as comic chat, Encarta, and Expedia as well as the long forgot Microsoft V-Chat, and, the Encarta sister product that died in 95, Microsoft Cinema. Funny little factoid for yah.
  • RTFL (Score:2, Informative)

    by Davethewaveslave ( 641693 ) on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @03:06PM (#6059704)
    Look closer at the earlier lawsuit. He didn't sue his employer, he was suing the Dept. of Labor and Industries because he was injured while he was on the job. He was not seeking awards from his employer, rather, he was seeking an award from the State, and he received it. Ultimately, it was decided that he was on the job when the candy he ate caused his crown to fall out. He felt that the claim should be handled by L&I, and eventually so did the State.

    I am not suggesting that I think he was in the right, but the precedent from his case could help others who might be more dramatically affected by similar injuries. Don't be so quick to bad-mouth the guy.

  • by doublem ( 118724 ) on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @03:32PM (#6060004) Homepage Journal
    http://www.bonzi.com [bonzi.com] isn't really down.

    Kazaa Lite and other applications come with a modified Hosts file you can use to route a number of nasty sites to localhost.

    http://www.bonzi.com is one of the sites that are blocked by default.

    Very nice. I like it, and it's funny to see IE open a popup that loads my workstation's custom 404 error message instead of sending me to popup Hell. Doubleclick and other sites are in that same custom hosts file.
  • No problem...... :) (Score:2, Informative)

    by venom600 ( 527627 ) on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @04:04PM (#6060336) Homepage Journal
    penguin $ grep bonzi.com /etc/hosts
    127.0.0.1 casino.bonzi.com
    127.0.0.1 images.bonzi.com
    127.0.0.1 www.bonzi.com
  • by Richardsonke1 ( 612224 ) * on Wednesday May 28, 2003 @09:56PM (#6063498)
    Check out Spybot Search and Destroy [kolla.de]. It's the best spyware remover i've ever used. Updates itself often and can lock down your computer against future attacks.

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