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A Slightly-Softer Microsoft Shared Source License 359

RadBlock writes "Microsoft Watch has a story on a recent change in Microsoft's shared-source licensing... I guess the main difference is that programmers do not have to send back any changes made to the source code. But they can't combine any of the Microsoft code with other software. Here's the full text of their new license agreement." The article claims that Microsoft is "inching closer -- at least in spirit -- to the GNU GPL" with these license tweaks, but it doesn't look that way to me.
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A Slightly-Softer Microsoft Shared Source License

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  • by watzinaneihm ( 627119 ) on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @01:45AM (#5542239) Journal
    Those who do not understand GNU are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
  • by pariahdecss ( 534450 ) on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @01:50AM (#5542264)
    Typical Microsoft embrace and extend strategy? Or perhaps a tainted gift for RMS on his recent birthday? The EULA can not be decompiled by any craft that we here possess, Gimli son of Gloin, the source must be returned to Redmond and cast back in to the fiery chasm from whence it came . . .
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @02:03AM (#5542314)

    The licenses for most open-source software are designed to grant you the freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the MSFT Shared Source License is intended to guarantee the illusion that you have any freedom to share and change Microsoft software software, and to make sure Microsoft can control any user of the software. This Shared Source License applies to a small portion of Microsoft's software, and not to any other software. (Most other Microsoft software is covered by an eight-page EULA instead.) You can apply it to your programs, too -- unless you don't like lawsuits!

    When we speak of free software, we are referring to price, not freedom. Our Shared Source Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to use our software, provided you only use it under our terms, and that you have freedom to distribute verbatim copies of the software under our terms (and charging for this service if you wish, provided that the proceeds are returned to Microsoft), that you don't receive source code unless we give it to you, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new programs, provided that you give the changes back to Microsoft; and that you know you can't do these things, when you see the successful high-profile lawsuits against small defenseless companies.

    To deny your rights, we need to make restrictions that forbid anyone to provide you these rights or to ask you to act as if you had the rights. These restrictions translate to certain responsibilities for you if you are anyone who owns a computer capable of running Microsoft software.

  • Re:Rights? (Score:5, Funny)

    by nurightshu ( 517038 ) <rightshu@cox.net> on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @02:14AM (#5542351) Homepage Journal

    As best I can tell, many of the zealots here think they have the "right" to the fruits of any programmer or company's labor, simply because it's trivial to make copies of the original work. I've been reading /. myself since '99 or so (I still remember Geeks in Space), and it seems that around here, Richard Stallman's belief that all code should be free for anyone to use or modify somehow reflects actual reality.

    Of course, the reality of the situation is that the author of the work has the right (not "right") to release or distribute his work however he sees fit; this of course gives rise to the infantile bawling over how company x (where x usually equals "Microsoft") is the root of all evil, responsible for the Kennedy assassination, the Challenger and Columbia incidents, and just about anything bad that has happened to them personally in their entire lives.

    Since Microsoft is only releasing code under the terms of a license the zealots feel is draconian, it is of course an egregious abridgement of the zealots' "right" to get the latest 0day_winXP_hax0r3d.iso.

    Hope this helps.

  • by Fritz Benwalla ( 539483 ) <randomregs.gmail@com> on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @02:18AM (#5542371)

    Well, it's about 11.803 pico-seconds per light year.

    Oh, maybe I missed your point.

    ---------

  • by Bull999999 ( 652264 ) on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @02:32AM (#5542409) Journal
    How about the part where the copyright holder may gain administrative access to your system? Oh wait, that's MS EULA, not GPL.
  • by rice_burners_suck ( 243660 ) on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @02:57AM (#5542493)
    I have read each word of the new Microsoft license and firmly believe that it is superior in all ways to the viral GPL license which plagues so much software that is forced onto the modern consumer through the power of monopoly.

    Contrary to such atrocities against humanity and the larger population of the world, the Microsoft license liberates every person by empowering them to use high quality tools for crashing computers at ten times the price, while simultaneously giving them the power to do almost as much as nothing in terms of repairing problems that arise when the liberation software fails (in other words, when it actually works properly and thus does not fulfill its purpose of crashing the aforementioned computer), thus creating value for the consumer and keeping the economy strong.

    If the open source world actually used its brain, every developer of open source software would sign his intellectual property over to Microsoft for free, on the sole condition that Microsoft will also take away everything that person owns and leave them hungry in the streets.

    Microsoft is such a noble and ethical entity that most developers would die to defend it.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @03:30AM (#5542578)
    So "Lindows" seems to be trying to take over the desktop from "MS-Windows".

    What will be the name of the MS product that will 'take on' Linux?

    Windux? Linows?

    Which one: WedHat? Webian? Wackware? Wandrake? Wuse? WurboLinux?

    And do they put the source on wourceforge and adhere to WOSIX and the WSB? Add linux support with Line (Line Is Not an Emulator)?

    Sendlook? exmail? IIPache? Wnome? IEzilla/Woenix? wonqueror? wautilus? Wamba? WaTeX? MSimian Outvolooktion? win3fs? weiserfs? waid5? werl? wython? msSQL?(oops)

    Politically correct WNU/Windows?

    Dary I say Lincrosoft? Microsux?

    Hope they do. Imitation is the best flattery.


    Washdot?

  • by zenyu ( 248067 ) on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @03:34AM (#5542592)
    The interesting part is that it seems to allow you do distribute derivative works with a license with an addition like "This software may be used for any purpose but may not be examined or run by any employee of a corporation convicted of monopoly abuse in any juristiction."

    Of course, it only looks BSD like, the "all rights reserved" part bans anyone from examining, compiling or using code created under this license. So the fact that you can ban Microsoft from using your derivative is beside the point.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @03:41AM (#5542611)
    With GPL, you have to give your modifications back (at least, if you share/sell/give away the binary).

    So I'd not say they are inching closer, more like moving farther away. Or more likely: stepping sideways to avoid getting hit.

    It's all a boxing match. That's what it is. Yeah, has to be.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @03:43AM (#5542618)
    Well, GPL replaces any previous licence in code it comes in contact with. In other words it spreads and it destroys. Ie. it is a virus! QED.
  • by Jondor ( 55589 ) <gerhard@@@frappe...xs4all...nl> on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @03:45AM (#5542621) Homepage
    Sure, but it helps if you step in the right direction..
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @03:51AM (#5542635)
    Not keeping up with the latest in physics, are you? :)
  • by RighteousFunby ( 649763 ) <joe@vjFORTRANoeb ... k minus language> on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @03:55AM (#5542641) Homepage
    Mr Software Developer went to the house of the big bad tyrant Micro Soft. He wanted to help develop his applications with him, but Micro Soft was an evil man.

    "I'll let you have my source code" he said, out of character. Mr Software Developer took his source, but before he could leave, Micro Soft bent him over and raped him up the ass, stealing money out of his back pocket with every thrust.

    -

    The moral, boys and girls, is somewhat simple...

    Microsoft's definition of Open Source = being assraped by Bill for all eternity. It's not open source, it's closed source with a pinhole leak.
  • by Jondor ( 55589 ) <gerhard@@@frappe...xs4all...nl> on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @04:06AM (#5542660) Homepage
    He, I'm at slashdot.. nobody does realy expects me to know what I'm talking about do they? ;)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @04:56AM (#5542770)
    Incoherent rantings, blind rage against Microsoft, mis-spellings, distortion of the facts... How would you like to be a Slashdot editor?
  • by $0.02 ( 618911 ) on Wednesday March 19, 2003 @10:44AM (#5543922)
    When I climbing a hill am I inching closer to the moon?

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