Anti-Piracy Labeling Bill in Works

Rinisari writes "Just posted on news.com.com is an article with more on the bill that could make all digital consumer products be required to be labeled with information regarding any anti-piracy technology within the device. Senator Ron Wyden, D-OR, will be the primary sponser of the bill (he's also got a text-only site)."

Re:Not a bad idea

[xylon]

I was at HMV the other day, and had an option of two CDs I wanted to buy. One was Massive Attack - 100th Window, and the other Nick Cave - Nocturama. I figured, since I'd already heard Nocturama, and hadn't heard 100th Window, I'd get the latter. That is, until I saw the Copy Protection sticker on the back of the CD Case, after which I put it down, and bought Nick Cave instead.

Of course, had there been no copy protection sticker/warning, I would probably have ended up with 100th Window (it was cheaper!). It's good to know, certainly - I don't want a crippled CD that may or may not play in my computer, cd player, dvd player, whatever; let's hope all recording labels follow suit.

IEEE-USA has a position on copy control technology

[Anonymous Coward]

It is posted at http://www.ieeeusa.org/forum/POSITIONS/copycontrol systems.html

It providea a list of characteristics any proper copy control system should have, such as with respect to fair use, non-interference with normal operations, and other issues. It concludes that no technology that has been proposed to date can satisfy the characteristics.

Re:Actually..

[devaldez]

Waaaayyyy better than is colleague in Oregon, Gordon Smith, who appears to be the next RIAA/MPAA supporter.

Maybe Wyden will rub off on Smith...until then, bombard Smith with anti-MPAA/RIAA mail and informed information. Perhaps we can get a convert in the form of the Senior Senator from the state of Oregon.

Re:this topic keep coming up

[Anonymous Coward]

They pay licensing fees to the original copyright holders to do that. Redistribution of copyrighted material is only permitted by the expressed consent of the copyright holder. If something is in public domain then there is no issue at all.

What is "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet..." ???

[aphor]

It is garbage, originally derived from an ancient latin text, but now generated by clever programs to approximate the look and feel of english text for formatters and page rendering. The idea is that you can't actually read it, so your monkey-mind won't get sucked into the content when you are supposed to be meditating on the layout/rendering.

A more authoritative (seeming) answer [lipsum.com] for the bayesian filter people.

Re:I like it

[Mitreya]

I also think that laws shouldn't be passed regarding this issue. It shouldn't be illegal to break DRM, but it also shouldn't be illegal to put DRM on a disk.

But I don't see anyone passing laws to make DRM illegal. Manufacturers are free to use any form of DRM that they desire. Problem is, 1) they can lie and pass it off as non-DRM product 2) It is is already illegal to break DRM in many cases (at least when DRM owner has enough lawyers).

Re:Wait, aren't they on "our side"?

[Steve B]

The government at most should label products with health and safety issues.

So, you don't think I would be doing anything wrong if I sold ordinary tap water as "Dr. Steve's Muscle-Making, Brain-Building, Potency-Pumping Elixir"? After all, the tap water isn't unhealthy or unsafe (not even by diverting people from trying other more promising techniques toward those ends -- that merely results in them staying the same, not becoming any worse off).

As pointed out upthread, products ordinarily come with a "warranty of implied fitness" (i.e. the expectation that if used for their intended purpose by a reasonable and prudent person, they'll work as expected). A 5 1/2" silver disk with copy prevention that looks like a CD and is not clearly labeled as a non-CD is fraudulent, for the same reason that counterfeit machine parts are fraudulent -- they just don't do what a reasonable purchaser would expect of them.

Re:Actually..

[indiigo]

Actually, I'm from Oregon, and Wyden responds personally to e-mail with constructive comments.

Similar to the DMCRA

[irabinovitch]

Looks like a Senate version of the "Digital Millenium Consumer Rights Act", a bill being worked on in the house. The EFF was/is seeking support for the DMCRA, check EFF.org for an Action Alert on the topic.

Anti-'piracy' technology

[freestyle-fiend]

I don't think the issue is anti-piracy technology. I think the issue is technology that indiscriminately prevents *use*. Such measures promote unauthorised copying, because the best way to get corrupt cds to function is to make a(n analog, if necessary) copy of them and use that on your computer or portable mp3/ogg player.

Sony Music Vs. Sony Electronics

[Keill_Randor]

This is the war in a nutshell - (i.e. a civil-war) at Sony - and could be a signpost as to the outcome of the larger global war...

However, things may not look too good atm, but it seems things could get better...

Afterall, the electronics division of Sony makes far more money than the Music side...;-)

Read this...

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.02/sony.ht ml