Palladium's Power To Deny

BrianWCarver writes "The Chronicle of Higher Education has the most detailed article I've yet seen on Microsoft's Palladium architecture. The article discusses the potential Palladium has to give publishers power to eliminate fair use and the potential for software manufacturers to use Palladium to enforce shrink-wrap licenses. Comments from several great sources including, Ed Felten (Freedom to Tinker), Eben Moglen (pro-bono counsel for the Free Software Foundation and recent Slashdot interviewee), and Seth Schoen (Electronic Frontier Foundation) among many others. Key quotations from article: Palladium could create 'a closed system, in which each piece of knowledge in the world is identified with a particular owner, and that owner has a right to resist its copying, modification, and redistribution. In such a scenario the very concept of fair use has been lost.' 'Palladium will "turn the clock back" to the days before online information was widely available.' and 'Microsoft could decide to lock everything up.'"

unfortunately....

[Anonymous Coward]

Palladium doesn't have the power to deny a first post!

What about my First Post Rights?

[sfeinstein]

Will Palladium prevent my ability to reply first to a Slashdot article? Could Microsoft decide that I'm not a "trusted source"? Is this the end of the anonymous coward?

Oh, the humanity.

bah

[MentLTheo]

This is just Microsoft's way of seperating the men from the boys. They just want to be able take guys like me who only use windows for gaming and push us away from the OS altogether so they know who their dedicated users are. Thats when they break out the 'kool-aid' and ascend to heaven in a spirtual journey.

Its a good thing ....

[bizitch]

for Microsoft that nobody has yet claimed the intellectual property rights on evil ... yet

One-step process

[rgoer]

Here is the one-step process MicroSoft will surely follow in the interest of sidestepping those patents you mention:

1. Billions upon billions of dollars

Not Necessarily

[banana fiend]

This (and other) articles and flames posting about the world ending with Palladium have ignored the fact that it is about safety for computer programs, running trusted code and keeping virii to a minimum. It's not such a bad idea.

It will only be harmful if some large monopolistic company decides to abuse it for their own purpose and to restrict the access to "passports" to viable code, and block off homegrown software ("openly developed software" - if you will) from gaining pre-eminence over their own solutions

I sure hope there are no big companies out there like that.

Don't Worry!

[4of12]

Palladium could create 'a closed system, in which each piece of knowledge in the world is identified with a particular owner, and that owner has a right to resist its copying, modification, and redistribution.

I know, I know. You were worried. Don't be.

Be assured that information about you, such as your medical history, and any transaction history you have in the databases of direct marketers will be copyrighted by someone other than you, relieving you of this onerous burden.

Chronicle of Higher Education

[Anonymous Coward]

From the article:

The goal, Microsoft officials say, is to make servers and desktop PC's that people can trust.

The plural of PC is PCs, not PC's. Chronicle of "higher" education, are they? :-)

Pro-Bono ?

[Anonymous Coward]

> Comments from several great sources including, Ed Felten (Freedom to Tinker), Eben Moglen
>(pro-bono counsel for the Free Software Foundation and recent Slashdot interviewee) [...]

Just what need: More "Pro-Bono" lawyers looking after intellectual property rights.

Re:Its a good thing ....

[footNipple]

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but they have. See Details [bbspot.com]

Re:not pirating movies never killed anyone

[Migrant Programmer]

Personally, I blame it on Flouridation. Nothing like mass administering a depressive without consent.

It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.

(yay Dr. Strangelove)

Re:Who's locking what up?

[DickBreath]

>>'Microsoft could decide to lock everything up'

Isn't the reality that the content creators would be the ones locking everything up? Who says MS is going to for them?
Another stupid poke at MS I assume? Damn that's getting old.

Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I was mistaken to think that Microsoft would act evil based upon their past behavior. (BTW, we should stop judging Saddam by his past behavior also. He would never hide WMD, use WMD, etc. Not to suggest that the scale of these "evils" are comparable.)

Isn't the reality that Microsoft, making the software, and security system, will have absolute control. I think this will work as described in a Letter from 2020 [osopinion.com].

Anything I write on my computer or any music I create gets stored by Word.NET and Music.NET in encrypted formats to protect my privacy. No one but me, Microsoft.NET and the National Corporation can read or hear my stuff.....

Silly me, if we end up with a world as described by this vision, I shouldn't blame Microsoft, they have no culpability in this.

Your Forgetting, MS are fuckwits

[Anonymous Coward]

Take any product that Microsoft have announced, consider for example Windows XP. So much fuss was made about it's un-hackable activation key - how it would finally put an end to pirating etc... Yeah, sure Bill - I'm writing this now on a warez copy of XP. Now everyone is 'up in arms' about palladium, it's gonna do this, it's gonna do that. Bollocks, they will fuck it up and it will be bypassed, simple as that. Microsoft can't even keep there OS secure for Christ's sake, and yet everyone is whining about Palladium. Wake up ppl, it will be hacked to bits as soon as the beta's hit KazaA. It will turn out to be a lot less than they are 'advertising' it to be, same as every other piece of junk they push.

Re:Certify Shmertify.

[mrkurt]

MSN was recently noted as serving up different (read broken) content to non-IE browsers. Now you won't be able to decrypt or access MSN ... without Internet Exploder.

Surely, you don't consider this to be a loss?

Re:Correction

[haeger]

Yeah, they changed the name from Palladium to Trusted Computing Platform didn't they? And since we all agree that its main purpose is to keep peoples right to their interllectual property perhaps we should call it:

Trusted Computing Platform / Interlectual Property, or just TCP/IP for short.

I see an embrace and extend coming our way...

.haeger

Re:about brute-forcing

[Graspee_Leemoor]

" Let's not forget that the key length can only be 40-bits, due to export restrictions. "

Not true any more. Remember when Windows 2000 came out the law was changed on this but the CDs were already mastered, so when I got a shiny copy of Win2k at the UK launch I also got a floppy with the upgrade to 128 bit encryption on it.

"The fed's are probably watching my IP address right now, waiting for me to download Celine Dion's latest album so they can arrest me and have me put in front of a firing squad. ;)"

Insert obligatory joke about anyone wanting Celine Dion's latest album deserving to be shot anyway.

graspee

Re:cracking

[Anonymous Coward]

int main(){
return "yes";
}


Heh :D

Re:One-step process

[Anonymous Coward]

nonono, you both got it all wrong:

1. Profit
2. Billions upon billions of dollars