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RMS Urges Opposition to "Trusted Computing" 522

Andy Tai writes "In this Newsforge article, Richard Stallman analyzes the "Trusted Computing" initiative and Microsoft's Palladium, points out that such initiatives are really means to ensure your computer can be trusted by Microsoft and Hollywood (you can't do things they don't want), and urges computer users to organize, to support the Public Knowledge and the Digital Speech projects and to use their consumer power to block "Trusted Computing" in its tracks."
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RMS Urges Opposition to "Trusted Computing"

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  • by autopr0n ( 534291 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @04:44PM (#4507402) Homepage Journal
    I'm absolutely flabbergasted that RMS would oppose this. Flabbergasted. :P
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @04:45PM (#4507407)
    He just wants it to be known as GNU/Palladium.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @04:45PM (#4507416)
    ... RMS has spoken.
  • by Bonker ( 243350 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @04:46PM (#4507419)
    He's not demanding we galled it 'GNU/Trusted Computing'?
  • by L. VeGas ( 580015 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @04:52PM (#4507476) Homepage Journal
    Yeah, he's pretty Naderiffic.

    As far as your "grey" issues go, perhaps you should try Grecian formula?
  • SerpentMage:Blah, blah, white grey, black grey, erosion, etc...

    YourMissionForToday: and try new pink grey!

    See how funny my post was compared to yours? And you know why? Because I use drugs. That's all you need to do. That's the key!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @05:05PM (#4507609)
    The only problem I have with this site is with the positioning of that laptop.
  • by Fiveeight ( 610936 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @05:14PM (#4507693)

    'Fingertip to eyeball security.' ? Sounds pretty low tech to me...
    *POKE*
    "Arrgh! I'm blind!"
    "He won't be sharing any more images"

    All they need now is 'Palm-to-eardrum' security, and they can wipe out MP3 sharing too.

  • Re:lol (Score:3, Funny)

    by teamhasnoi ( 554944 ) <teamhasnoi AT yahoo DOT com> on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @05:18PM (#4507731) Journal
    trusted 'fill in the blank' doesn't work

    I think I've found a couple...Trusted:
    Left-out Milk
    Serial Killer
    Steve Balmer's anti-persperant
    Outlook Attachment
    Full-Bladdered Dog
    panhandlers
    monopoly
    little Brother/Sister
    Moderation
    Romulans
    Slashdot the Grammar
    Slahsdot Slpeeling
    Slashdot Obituaries
    Blind barbers
    Stoned roommate & leftover pizza
    Kazaa downloads
    Fox news
    Shadow Government
    One calorie soda
    Lite Beer
    Heroin Junkie & nice sterio
    Microsoft's User Testimonials
    EULAs
    Politicians
    8 track Tapes
    clean underwear
    Transvestites
    & blood transfusions in Hati.

    Thanks, I'll be here all week.

  • by EggplantMan ( 549708 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @05:24PM (#4507769) Homepage
    I agree the issues RMS raises with trusted computing, specifically the loss of control over one's system and possibility for abuse, are valid, and even frightening.

    OTOH I hold some opinions of my own. RMS says that trusted computing should be called treacherous computing but his reasons are weak. I fail to see how stopping people from illegally trading media over the web should be considered treacherous, in fact it is commendable.

    Instead of leaving the internet as a 'wild west' with no laws, Microsoft and the RIAA (along with some politicians) are benevolently expending time and effort to establish some sort of order. I look forward to the day when I can buy Trusted hardware and engage in Trusted computing. That will finally let me sleep at night, knowing that Hollywood and the RIAA are not being robbed of their hard earned money.

  • by skaffen42 ( 579313 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @05:51PM (#4508021)
    Actually he's just pissed off because they aren't calling it GNU/Palladium. :)
  • by leviramsey ( 248057 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @06:04PM (#4508133) Journal
    Anyone catch RMS on The Screen Savers [techtv.com] last night? He told a very interesting story of the night of fun he had recently at the Playboy mansion...

    Just as long as RMS didn't get with any of the babes on The Screen Savers...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @06:08PM (#4508176)

    Did he demand that they call the show GNU/Screen Savers. After all, without his appearance, the show would be nothing!

  • by distributed.karma ( 566687 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @06:19PM (#4508256)
    > How does he eat?

    They say he eats windows for breakfast.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @06:31PM (#4508354)
    Imagine a Beowulf cluster of idiots imagining a Beowulf cluster of idiots attaching GNU to everything RMS ever said and never letting the world forget what they think Gore said. Or just imagine Slashdot, same thing. ... Shoot... I think this could be an infinite loop! =)
  • by lowe0 ( 136140 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @06:39PM (#4508398) Homepage
    Palladium isn't going to rob you of the right to use your PC. Do you really think Intel and AMD would make a processor that only ran one OS? They'd be tying their futures to those of Microsoft.

    Palladium will just sit there until you choose to run software that uses it. Not install, but run. That means you have to:

    1. Have Palladium hardware.

    2. Have a Palladium OS.

    3. Have a Palladium application.

    The above three will allow you to access Palladium-protected content. Guess what? If you don't want to use something protected, you don't need Palladium!

    Now, what happens if your favorite band or software company or whoever decides they're going to use Palladium? Well, you tell them you're not buying anything. All Microsoft is providing is a secure delivery vehicle. If you don't want to do business with those who use DRM, or trusted applications, or any of the other uses for Palladium, then you don't have to. Sure, it means you have to go without the latest version of the software you love, or that new album from that band, or whatever else you might want, but that's the sacrifice you make. If enough likeminded people feel the same way, then Palladium will fail.

    Palladium is all about layers of security. If the hardware's secure, a secure OS can load. If the OS is secure, a secure app can load. If the app is secure, a secure file can load.

    If the system is secure, content providers will be able to provide media with confidence. In a controlled environment with limited legacy software, unauthorized code such as virii can be halted before damaging or spreading. Truly effective copy protection can be implemented if backwards compatibility is left behind (ah, the age-old quandary.)

    In short, it's not going to stop you from running your own OS.

    So, vote with your wallet. But don't give in to paranoia.
  • Oy... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Inoshiro ( 71693 ) on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @07:10PM (#4508631) Homepage
    "MS doesn't have niether competition nor federal mandates preventing computers from being restricted."

    That sentence should be dragged out into the street and shot.

    Too bad that Grammar guy isn't here to point out the tragedy of double negatives, improper spelling, confusing wording, and a run-on sentence all in one! It's like looking at a 16-car accident.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 22, 2002 @08:01PM (#4509028)
    To continue to bash corporate sponsered laws, we shall rename every initials to what it truly represent:

    DMCA=Digital Mass Carnage Act
    DRM=Digitized Remote Murder
    CBCDTA=Corporate Backing Carnage, Destruction, Treachery, Assimilation

    Spread the words! Post your initials! And free the world!
  • Re:Oy... (Score:3, Funny)

    by j_w_d ( 114171 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @01:55AM (#4510644)
    Nor, evidently as a second or third.

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